Realistic Trades

[gerontion]

with this mentality we might as well just wait for Chad Kelly since he has the necessary background and has more upside than McCarron

I would imagine he'll be in the mix next year unless Elway gets an established veteran or takes a QB high in the 1st round.

[broncos SB2010]

Define short-sightedness? If we are criticizing short term thinking, then it would be beneficial to not make knee jerk reactions and understand it will take a few years to build an offensive unit that can perform successfully. Short-term thinking is the lack of perspective fans have about how long it takes to build a football team coupled with unreasonable expectations set by a once-in-a-lifetime defense and HoF Star Wars QB we were gifted and didn't have to develop.

It's easier to say that fans (For the most part) don't understand the developmental aspect of football players or football teams.

continually bringing in 2nd and 3rd tier Olinemen without a commitment to building a solid unit. Bolles and Clady were the only top level talent they have drafted in 10 years.....

[haciendadad]

Big arm, accurate, played for a real college team in Ole Miss, and he has beaten Alabama which is damn hard to do. He has more accomplishments then any other qb on our roster.

Kelly's Prospect Review

Chad Kelly, QB, Ole Miss
Height: 6-1. Weight: 215.
Projected 40 Time: 4.75.
Projected Round (2017): 6-FA.
4/25/17: A torn ACL ended Kelly's 2016 season early, and given the timing of the injury, he wasn't able to work out completely for NFL teams prior to the 2017 NFL Draft.

Kelly completed 63 percent of his passes in 2016 for 2,758 yards with 19 touchdowns and eight interceptions. In losses to Alabama and Florida State where Ole Miss blew big leads, Kelly had terrible turnovers via bad decisions in crunch time, which made the comebacks possible.

Overall, Kelly's performances during the 2016 season confirmed his gun-slinger style of play. He has the arm to make any throw, but could stand to get more consistent in his field vision, accuracy and decision-making. While Kelly can't be blamed for his defense struggling in allowing comebacks to Florida State and Alabama, Kelly never displayed the leadership and intangibles to push his team to tough victories. He doesn't have a killer instinct and gets rattled by pressure; both the physical pass rush and the mental/emotional pressure of critical moments in big games.

Kelly also needs to check his ego and clean up his off-the-field issues, too. He has had problems such as yelling at Clemson fans - while a Clemson student - in the stadium parking lot after a fender bender, getting arrested for a bar fight that involved threatening a mass shooting, running onto the field at his brother's high school game, trash-talking teammates on twitter, pursuing porn stars on twitter, creating a self-loving rap song; the list goes on with "Swag" Kelly. Being the nephew of Jim Kelly seems to have created an "Affluenza" quarterback.

When you add in the off-the-field issues from Kelly's ego and behavior, it adds to the questions about his on-field intangibles and ability to lead a team. He has a big arm, but I don't think he has the decision-making and steadiness in his play to be a franchise quarterback. Kelly doesn't strike me as a winner.

7/29/16: Kelly showed development late in the 2015 season and was playing well for Ole Miss. For the year, he completed 65 percent of his passes for 4,042 yards with 31 touchdowns and 13 interceptions. He also ran for 500 yards and 10 touchdowns. It was Kelly's first season starting for the Rebels.

Kelly has a powerful arm with some athleticism. He needs to improve his field vision and decision-making as he throws risky passes downfield too often rather than taking easy completions underneath.

Prior to 2015, Kelly played in the junior college ranks for a year, where he won a National Championship. Kelly started out his collegiate career at Clemson, but didn't last long as Dabo Swinney kicked him off the team "for conduct detrimental to the program." Kelly is the nephew of Hall of Fame quarterback Jim Kelly. Chad Kelly's ego and behavior led to his undoing at Clemson.

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[TheAsianPA]

Not sure why you got offended. Anyway, you know who else won National Championships at big time schools? Tim Tebow, Matt Leinart, Vince Young, and a whole bunch of other busts.

with this mentality we might as well just wait for Chad Kelly since he has the necessary background and has more upside than McCarron

[gerontion]

You know the difference? Siemian was a terrible college QB at an academic school. McCarron won a National Championship at Alabama. He doesn’t get rattled under the bright lights. I’m just throwing out suggestions, excuse the hell out of me.

Not sure why you got offended. Anyway, you know who else won National Championships at big time schools? Tim Tebow, Matt Leinart, Vince Young, and a whole bunch of other busts.

[False Start]

Trade em if you can get any takers.

[colowoz]

Where were the adjustments after half time, this is what did not happen a week ago. NO Change, keep doing what has not worked. Does not sit well as they are all suppose to be professional , but I dont see an effort. Going to be a long year.

[RainyTX]

You know the difference? Siemian was a terrible college QB at an academic school. McCarron won a National Championship at Alabama. He doesn’t get rattled under the bright lights. I’m just throwing out suggestions, excuse the hell out of me.

[gerontion]

Because that 5th round QB is better than anything we have.

How do you know that? The guy has played a handful of games his entire career.

[Broncos-R-Great]

Send DT to the Bengals for McCarron

He'd probably look worse than Siemian in this offense

[RainyTX]

Why would we send our #1 WR to the Bengals for their 5th round, backup QB?

Because that 5th round QB is better than anything we have.

[gerontion]

Send DT to the Bengals for McCarron

Why would we send our #1 WR to the Bengals for their 5th round, backup QB?

[RainyTX]

Send DT to the Bengals for McCarron

[gerontion]

I was mostly joking.... But this offense has been bad since midway through 2014, and is getting worse every week.

Another poster stated an interesting fact, that our 3 highest paid players on offense are 2 WRs and a RB. These are the 2 easiest positions on a team to replace, yet the majority of the money is going to those 2 spots.

Just think about this, would the offense be that much worse if we cut DT, Sanders, and Anderson (not saying we should, just thinking out loud), and went with Fowler, Taylor, and Charles/Booker?

Yes, ever since Manning started to decline so has the offense. That's really not unexpected. As far as DT and Sanders, like most WRs they do better with a better QB. Similarly, a great QB can make average WRs look decent. C.J. actually started the year off great before teams figured out that stacking the box and forcing Siemian to make plays was a recipe for success. Upgrade the QB and everything starts to look better. Of course shoring up the RT and LG positions would help immensely, too.

As to your idea of cutting DT, Sanders, and Anderson, that's probably too extreme. Getting rid of C.J. and one of those WRs might make sense if it leads to a better QB and a better OL.

[Broncos-R-Great]

But that is sort of my point- what the QB position is capable of.

Why should we need a perfect roster with an all star offensive line, running game and wide outs to have success at the QB position?

Your QB is the leader. He should have the ability to disguise weakness in your team. Our #13 amplifies our weakness.

Until we find an elite QB, yes everything else will have to be perfect.

We're not the only team in the league that can say: "if only we had Aaron Rodgers..."