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Originally posted by Broncos-R-Great View PostThis is only the third time the Broncos have picked in the top 5 in the last 30 years. Regardless of how good Nelson can be, on a team that RARELY drafts this high, he's going to be a tough sell to Bronco fans.
If Elway picks him, he better make the Pro Bowl just about every year, anything else and he will be considered a huge bust.
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Originally posted by broncos SB2010 View PostI don't know if he was the speed to do that. Never thought about it before. it's possible though. I find it very hard to believe that they will be a good unit just because of new coaches.
Yes, they might have 3 starters returning. I am assuming you mean Bolles, Paradis, and Leary? None of them played all that well this past season and Paradis might be on the way out. I hope McGovern can step up and play well. He looked pretty good in his limited reps. I just want a star somewhere on this Oline, not a bunch of mediocre players.
yes those 3 will for sure be returning starters.
I'll agree with you they need more talent on the o-line. If he ends up being the top prospect and QB is solved in FA, I'm with you on picking him but I don't see Elway doing it. He said before, He Builds his team around QB, LT, CB and Pass Rushers. Broncos have question marks at all 4 positions. Ray has been disappointing, Barrett & Roby will be a UFA next yr, Bolles is ok, Chris Harris has two yrs left on his deal, and they have NO QB. Too many holes to take a OL that can't play OT at #5.Last edited by munoz1987; 01-15-2018, 09:29 AM."Stand behind our troops or Feel free to stand in front of them!"
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Originally posted by munoz1987 View Post[/B]
yes those 3 will for sure be returning starters.
I'll agree with you they need more talent on the o-line. If he ends up being the top prospect and QB is solved in FA, I'm with you on picking him but I don't see Elway doing it. He said before, He Builds his team around QB, LT, CB and Pass Rushers. Broncos have question marks at all 4 positions. Ray has been disappointing, Barrett & Roby will be a UFA next yr, Bolles is ok, Chris Harris has two yrs left on his deal, and they have NO QB. Too many holes to take a OL that can't play OT at #5.
I have posted before that I question his method of building a team. he builds it from the outside in. As you said, CB, Edge rushers, and paying offensive guys like WR. It always seems like he builds the team to be strong farthest from the ball and weak in the middle, closest to the ball. That doesn't look like a very good formula to me.Last edited by broncos SB2010; 01-15-2018, 11:27 AM.sigpic
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Originally posted by broncos SB2010 View Postsome. Many, including myself, would be 100% ok with it. I am tired of seeing them try to build a line with 2nd/3rd tier players. Sambrailo, Schofield, Watson, Stephenson, Garcia, Blake, Franklin, Harris, Mathis, Barbre, Vasquez, Montgomery, etc...... Paradis was a lucky hit getting him in the 6th round but he may not last long either. Last year they took Bolles, who may turn out to be very good, but right now it looks like they missed on Ramczyk when they had their picks of the OT and Ramczyk was the consensus #1.
We haven't had a consistent RB for more than 3 years.im so tired of see that too.My boy JUSTIN FIELDS whats up man..."BACK THEN THEY DIDN'TWANT YOU, NOW YOU HOT THEY ALL ON YA." I may know just a "lil" about qbs....but not too much.
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Originally posted by broncos SB2010 View Post....and look at us picking #5 now.....
I have posted before that I question his method of building a team. he builds it from the outside in. As you said, CB, Edge rushers, and paying offensive guys like WR. It always seems like he builds the team to be strong farthest from the ball and weak in the middle, closest to the ball. That doesn't look like a very good formula to me.
Our other picks we're so heavily relied upon to be "hits" that some set us back when they didn't live up to the selection or have struggled to improve.
This season we have people screaming for QB and OL......again.
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Originally posted by atwaterandstir View PostThe past 4 years in Rd 1 and 2 we drafted OL 2, QB, DL 2 Wr, and Roby. Out of those picks Ray and Roby are our best players and were taken as BPA -not out of need.
Our other picks we're so heavily relied upon to be "hits" that some set us back when they didn't live up to the selection or have struggled to improve.
This season we have people screaming for QB and OL......again.sigpic
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Originally posted by Ear2dastreets View PostWhat you are say makes no sense....so basically you are saying in order to fix the line we have to use 1st Rd picks???
We haven't had a consistent RB for more than 3 years.im so tired of see that too.Last edited by broncos SB2010; 01-15-2018, 12:10 PM.sigpic
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Originally posted by atwaterandstir View PostThe past 4 years in Rd 1 and 2 we drafted OL 2, QB, DL 2 Wr, and Roby. Out of those picks Ray and Roby are our best players and were taken as BPA -not out of need.
Our other picks we're so heavily relied upon to be "hits" that some set us back when they didn't live up to the selection or have struggled to improve.
This season we have people screaming for QB and OL......again.My boy JUSTIN FIELDS whats up man..."BACK THEN THEY DIDN'TWANT YOU, NOW YOU HOT THEY ALL ON YA." I may know just a "lil" about qbs....but not too much.
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Originally posted by broncos SB2010 View Post....and Nelson IS the BPA. He is the best player in the draft.
To the Pitt of misery!!!!Dilly Dilly...My boy JUSTIN FIELDS whats up man..."BACK THEN THEY DIDN'TWANT YOU, NOW YOU HOT THEY ALL ON YA." I may know just a "lil" about qbs....but not too much.
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Originally posted by Ear2dastreets View PostThat's your opinion of him being the best player in the draft...so you are saying all 32 Gsm say that he is...or it's your opinion combined with so so called analysis????
To the Pitt of misery!!!!Dilly Dilly...sigpic
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Originally posted by broncos SB2010 View Postno. I am saying we need to sign the best players available instead of 2nd and 3rd and 4th tier players and hope they succeed. Who is a player on the Oline that they could build a solid line around? I can't think of a single one. The best player they have signed in years is Leary and he was marginal at best. Yes, I know you say that it takes time to gel, which I agree with, but you also have to have talent and there is very little of that on the roster at Oline.
Playoff teams oline ...
Pats line - sucks
Pitts- average
Jack-suck
K.c.- sucks
Tenn- very good
Bills-ok
Philly- good
Viks- average
Rams- average
Saint-good
Panthers-ok
Falcons- sucks
But when you look at the teams players it's crazy....and I bet it ain't no guard either.My boy JUSTIN FIELDS whats up man..."BACK THEN THEY DIDN'TWANT YOU, NOW YOU HOT THEY ALL ON YA." I may know just a "lil" about qbs....but not too much.
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Originally posted by Ear2dastreets View PostSo you can't find good online in later rds but you can rbs...
Playoff teams oline ...
Pats line - sucks
Pitts- average
Jack-suck
K.c.- sucks
Tenn- very good
Bills-ok
Philly- good
Viks- average
Rams- average
Saint-good
Panthers-ok
Falcons- sucks
But when you look at the teams players it's crazy....and I bet it ain't no guard either.
I can play the same game as you, which means nothing:
Pats- Dion Leiws and Rex Burkhead
Pitts- Bell
Jack-Fournette
K.c.- Hunt
Tenn- Derrick Henry
Bills-McCoy
Philly- Ajayi
Viks- Latavius Murray
Rams- Gurley
Saint-Alvin kamarra
Panthers-Jonathan Stewert
Falcons- FreemanLast edited by broncos SB2010; 01-15-2018, 12:39 PM.sigpic
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Originally posted by broncos SB2010 View Postshow me a player that was more dominant at their position.My boy JUSTIN FIELDS whats up man..."BACK THEN THEY DIDN'TWANT YOU, NOW YOU HOT THEY ALL ON YA." I may know just a "lil" about qbs....but not too much.
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Originally posted by broncos SB2010 View Post....and look at us picking #5 now.....
I have posted before that I question his method of building a team. he builds it from the outside in. As you said, CB, Edge rushers, and paying offensive guys like WR. It always seems like he builds the team to be strong farthest from the ball and weak in the middle, closest to the ball. That doesn't look like a very good formula to me.
We had one bad year where we comitted a horrendous 34 turnovers, led by our QBs who were responsible for 26 of those.
We badly need a QB, he doesn't have to be the next Manning, just somebody who won't give the ball away like it's Halloween candy.
If we pickup a QB in FA, then yes, maybe you draft Nelson
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