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  • These are the top options in the draft:

    I am continuing as if QB is not an option here.
    Rosen
    Allen
    Darnold
    Mayfield

    Chubb-DE-- This is a possibility but he looks more like a 4-3 end than a 3-4 OLB to me. Pass rusher is a premium though so he is a possibility.
    Barkley-RB--I don't think the Broncos value this position highly enough this season so I don't see this happening this season.
    Fitzpatrick-DB--very possible candidate. Talib may be gone and he could also be an upgrade at safety. They have Roby and just drafted 2 safeties 2 years though and they have been playing pretty well.
    Derwin James-DB--very good prospect but I don't see him as one of the elites in this draft.
    Calvin Ridley-WR--I don't see the FO releasing DT or Sanders so a top pick here is a bit of a waste.
    McGlinchey-OT-- OT is very likely but if they were to take an Olineman, I think they would go with the better player in nelson. They might value OT over OG enough to make this choice though.
    Williams-OT--see above.
    Roquan Smith-LB---also a very likely pick. He would probably be the best LB on the team, besides Miller but he may be best as a 4-3 OLB instead if 3-4 ILB.

    Nelson-OG--He is the best Olineman in the draft which is the biggest weakness besides QB, and someone a team could build a line around. He was so good, he was voted the team MVP. How often does that happen?

    so the way I see it, the 3 most likely options, besides QB, are Nelson, Fitz, and Smith..in that order. They have built a solid defense and I don't think they go defense in the first since they know, and admitted, that the offense needs a lot of work.


    edit...not most likely, but what I would do. Out of the top 3 listed, most likely would be Fitz, imo.
    Last edited by broncos SB2010; 01-18-2018, 05:43 PM.
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    • I prefer Barkley for our teams situation, but it's not like Nelson is some consolation prize.
      He is a beast at OG and if Bolles can become the better than average starter we hope, a guy like Nelson could wreck havoc. I just feel with all things considered on our offense, (cap, contracts, draft position etc) a guy like Billy Price with our early 2nd (if he falls) is a better target for our oline. He can play guard or center and for our team a prospect like that is huge. (Paradise RFA will likely stay but will be tendered) and his future could be short.

      Price is thought to be one of the best prospects at C in quite some time. His ability to handle big NT plus his awareness and experience starting 55 straight games at G/T makes him a better prospect IMO.
      Last edited by atwaterandstir; 01-18-2018, 05:14 PM.

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      • Originally posted by broncos SB2010 View Post
        These are the top options in the draft:

        I am continuing as if QB is not an option here.
        Rosen
        Allen
        Darnold
        Mayfield

        Chubb-DE-- This is a possibility but he looks more like a 4-3 end than a 3-4 OLB to me. Pass rusher is a premium though so he is a possibility.
        Barkley-RB--I don't think the Broncos value this position highly enough this season so I don't see this happening this season.
        Fitzpatrick-DB--very possible candidate. Talib may be gone and he could also be an upgrade at safety. They have Roby and just drafted 2 safeties 2 years though and they have been playing pretty well.
        Derwin James-DB--very good prospect but I don't see him as one of the elites in this draft.
        Calvin Ridley-WR--I don't see the FO releasing DT or Sanders so a top pick here is a bit of a waste.
        McGlinchey-OT-- OT is very likely but if they were to take an Olineman, I think they would go with the better player in nelson. They might value OT over OG enough to make this choice though.
        Williams-OT--see above.
        Roquan Smith-LB---also a very likely pick. He would probably be the best LB on the team, besides Miller but he may be best as a 4-3 OLB instead if 3-4 ILB.

        Nelson-OG--He is the best Olineman in the draft which is the biggest weakness besides QB, and someone a team could build a line around. He was so good, he was voted the team MVP. How often does that happen?

        so the way I see it, the 3 most likely options, besides QB, are Nelson, Fitz, and Smith..in that order. They have built a solid defense and I don't think they go defense in the first since they know, and admitted, that the offense needs a lot of work.
        Originally posted by atwaterandstir View Post
        I prefer Barkley for our teams situation, but it's not like Nelson is some consolation prize.
        He is a beast at OG and if Bolles can become the better than average starter we hope, a guy like Nelson could wreck havoc. I just feel with all things considered on our offense, (cap, contracts, draft position etc) a guy like Billy Price with our early 2nd (if he falls) is a better target for our oline. He can play guard or center and for our team a prospect like that is huge. (Paradise RFA will likely stay but will be tendered) and his future could be short.

        Price is thought to be one of the best prospects at C in quite some time. His ability to handle big NT plus his awareness and experience starting 55 straight games makes him a better prospect IMO.
        Agree with both of you. The great thing is if and only if we get a vet qb, is that the 2 dbs listed along with Chubb and Barkley are all good enough along with the top 4 qbs for others to want our #5 position, allowing us to drop back and take a top tackle then go after price with either trading back into the end of 1 or better yet if he's there at our 2nd...and with our draft picks from trading back, grab a Sony Michel (whom I believe is better than dalvin cooke and Christian McCaffrey as a rb) and maybe a top MLB....all we need to do is grab a qb in free agency.....then with this draft it is stacked for our multiple needs while targeting bpa at those positiions of needs. Its like we landed in just the right spot and I can see it all coming together for a quick turnaround.....an o line of bolles, price, pradis, Leary and say mcglinchey with cousins, Sony Michel, Dt., Sanders, and Jake butt......whew.....
        I need more Oline, please and thank you

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        • "In the top 10 you should Draft a player who Sacks the QB, Scores TDs, Protects The Blindside, Prevents TDs, or Turns the Ball Over. Guards don't do any of that"
          -Bill Polian, Hall of Fame GM
          "Stand behind our troops or Feel free to stand in front of them!"

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          • Originally posted by atwaterandstir View Post
            I prefer Barkley for our teams situation, but it's not like Nelson is some consolation prize.
            He is a beast at OG and if Bolles can become the better than average starter we hope, a guy like Nelson could wreck havoc. I just feel with all things considered on our offense, (cap, contracts, draft position etc) a guy like Billy Price with our early 2nd (if he falls) is a better target for our oline. He can play guard or center and for our team a prospect like that is huge. (Paradise RFA will likely stay but will be tendered) and his future could be short.

            Price is thought to be one of the best prospects at C in quite some time. His ability to handle big NT plus his awareness and experience starting 55 straight games at G/T makes him a better prospect IMO.
            Agreed 1000%^^^^^
            In my best Terrell Owen's voice...on Justin Fields. "That's my quarterback"

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            • Originally posted by munoz1987 View Post
              "In the top 10 you should Draft a player who Sacks the QB, Scores TDs, Protects The Blindside, Prevents TDs, or Turns the Ball Over. Guards don't do any of that"
              -Bill Polian, Hall of Fame GM
              Agreed 100000000000%^^^^^^^^preach.
              In my best Terrell Owen's voice...on Justin Fields. "That's my quarterback"

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              • Originally posted by munoz1987 View Post
                "In the top 10 you should Draft a player who Sacks the QB, Scores TDs, Protects The Blindside, Prevents TDs, or Turns the Ball Over. Guards don't do any of that"
                -Bill Polian, Hall of Fame GM
                Originally posted by Ear2dastreets View Post
                Agreed 100000000000%^^^^^^^^preach.
                they help protect the blindside
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                • Originally posted by Rich_C View Post
                  I am very much torn on this as a pick in the 1st. Especially since we pick at #5. A few things to consider.

                  1. We have a very poor pass rush this season. ideally we hope to never pick at #5 again...ever. So would it not be a better idea to see if we couldn't nab another OLB to act as a true #2 OLB for Von?

                  2. What about Menelik Watson? - to me he seems like he'd be an even better fit then Orlando Franklin at RG. Given that fact I'd much rather move M.Watson inside to guard and then shift Leary back to where he should be playing LG. If we move in this direction I'd rather we target the best RT available. This is assuming we've already addressed the QB position.
                  Menelik Watson has been in the league for five seasons, but he missed 2015 because of injury. So, in four seasons which is 64 games, he was available for 34 of those and started 24. He can't possibly be better than Orlando Franklin was because he isn't available about half the time.

                  Orlando Franklin was moved from RT to LG in 2014.

                  If Orlando and Menelik ever met in a Sumo Circle, my money is on Orlando.
                  "Stultum est timere quod vitare non potes." ~ Publilius Syrus

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                  • Originally posted by CoryWinget81 View Post
                    Believe me, my laughter at your complete non-understanding of how important guards are is not fake.
                    Apparently the art of: pull to Trap; pull to Influence; pull to Fold; pull to Lead; pull to Seal; pull to Escort; and, pull to Kickout is a lost and forgotten art. The Lombardi Sweep Series, the Noll Trap Series and The Gibbs Counter Series are just myths?
                    "Stultum est timere quod vitare non potes." ~ Publilius Syrus

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                    • Originally posted by broncos SB2010 View Post
                      These are the top options in the draft:

                      I am continuing as if QB is not an option here.
                      Rosen
                      Allen
                      Darnold
                      Mayfield

                      Chubb-DE-- This is a possibility but he looks more like a 4-3 end than a 3-4 OLB to me. Pass rusher is a premium though so he is a possibility.
                      Barkley-RB--I don't think the Broncos value this position highly enough this season so I don't see this happening this season.
                      Fitzpatrick-DB--very possible candidate. Talib may be gone and he could also be an upgrade at safety. They have Roby and just drafted 2 safeties 2 years though and they have been playing pretty well.
                      Derwin James-DB--very good prospect but I don't see him as one of the elites in this draft.
                      Calvin Ridley-WR--I don't see the FO releasing DT or Sanders so a top pick here is a bit of a waste.
                      McGlinchey-OT-- OT is very likely but if they were to take an Olineman, I think they would go with the better player in nelson. They might value OT over OG enough to make this choice though.
                      Williams-OT--see above.
                      Roquan Smith-LB---also a very likely pick. He would probably be the best LB on the team, besides Miller but he may be best as a 4-3 OLB instead if 3-4 ILB.

                      Nelson-OG--He is the best Olineman in the draft which is the biggest weakness besides QB, and someone a team could build a line around. He was so good, he was voted the team MVP. How often does that happen?

                      so the way I see it, the 3 most likely options, besides QB, are Nelson, Fitz, and Smith..in that order. They have built a solid defense and I don't think they go defense in the first since they know, and admitted, that the offense needs a lot of work.


                      edit...not most likely, but what I would do. Out of the top 3 listed, most likely would be Fitz, imo.
                      Originally posted by atwaterandstir View Post
                      I prefer Barkley for our teams situation, but it's not like Nelson is some consolation prize.
                      He is a beast at OG and if Bolles can become the better than average starter we hope, a guy like Nelson could wreck havoc. I just feel with all things considered on our offense, (cap, contracts, draft position etc) a guy like Billy Price with our early 2nd (if he falls) is a better target for our oline. He can play guard or center and for our team a prospect like that is huge. (Paradise RFA will likely stay but will be tendered) and his future could be short.

                      Price is thought to be one of the best prospects at C in quite some time. His ability to handle big NT plus his awareness and experience starting 55 straight games at G/T makes him a better prospect IMO.
                      Originally posted by broncos SB2010 View Post
                      they help protect the blindside
                      They allow the good qbs to step up into the pocket and avoid said edge rushers
                      I need more Oline, please and thank you

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                      • Originally posted by samparnell View Post
                        Apparently the art of: pull to Trap; pull to Influence; pull to Fold; pull to Lead; pull to Seal; pull to Escort; and, pull to Kickout is a lost and forgotten art. The Lombardi Sweep Series, the Noll Trap Series and The Gibbs Counter Series are just myths?
                        But that's not making plays
                        I need more Oline, please and thank you

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                        • Originally posted by Alaskajoe View Post
                          But that's not making plays
                          Really? So, how do you plan to run plays called Trap, Sweep or Counter with a pulling Guard? Go ahead, chalk it up for me.
                          "Stultum est timere quod vitare non potes." ~ Publilius Syrus

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                          • Originally posted by samparnell View Post
                            Really? So, how do you plan to run plays called Trap, Sweep or Counter with a pulling Guard? Go ahead, chalk it up for me.
                            Sarcasm Sam....sarcasm
                            I need more Oline, please and thank you

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                            • Originally posted by samparnell View Post
                              Really? So, how do you plan to run plays called Trap, Sweep or Counter with a pulling Guard? Go ahead, chalk it up for me.
                              I believe he was being what them fancy folk call facetious.

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                              • Originally posted by Ear2dastreets View Post
                                Agreed 100000000000%^^^^^^^^preach.
                                Now I really, really want to draft Quenton Nelson with our fist pick because your meltdown would be epic.

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