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  • maaskesr
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    I would be happy if we could trade back a spot or two and get Nelson. I'm coming around to taking Nelson and one of the top 3 backs (Guice, Jones) with the 2nd pick, if one were still there. I would love to have a dominant running game again where play action passes actually worked.

    Not sure if there is any chance we could move back to 7 though (and hope he drops that far).

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  • broncos SB2010
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    Originally posted by Chillez View Post
    I wouldn’t be against trading back and getting both Ward and Hernandez. I’m not sure Ward would be there past first 10 picks.
    agreed
    .....

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  • Chillez
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    Originally posted by the0rangecrush View Post
    This is what Allbright tweeted based on what hes hearing right now

    If I had to guess today...

    1. Browns - Darnold
    2. Giants - Barkley
    3. Jets - Mayfield
    4. Browns - Chubb
    5. Bills - Allen
    6. Colts - Nelson

    Also said our targets would be Denzel Ward and Will Hernandez with the 2 1sts.
    I wouldn’t be against trading back and getting both Ward and Hernandez. I’m not sure Ward would be there past first 10 picks.

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  • the0rangecrush
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    This is what Allbright tweeted based on what hes hearing right now

    If I had to guess today...

    1. Browns - Darnold
    2. Giants - Barkley
    3. Jets - Mayfield
    4. Browns - Chubb
    5. Bills - Allen
    6. Colts - Nelson

    Also said our targets would be Denzel Ward and Will Hernandez with the 2 1sts.

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  • broncos SB2010
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    Originally posted by MHOC View Post
    If so many people want him at pick 5

    Why wouldn’t clev take him at 4 esp losing Thomas
    they already have 2 good og in bitonio and zeitler

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  • MHOC
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    If so many people want him at pick 5

    Why wouldn’t clev take him at 4 esp losing Thomas

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  • Kyousukeneko
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    Originally posted by Jonny_Quest View Post
    Elway has expressed public concern over Rosen's Injury history.

    This makes me think that Elway wouldn’t draft him. Could be a smokescreen, though.

    My take is that if you’re struggling to stay healthy in your early 20s, that’s unlikely to improve with age.
    that is just my personal take. i think he will end up being the second best QB if not the best QB in this draft. he has everything and more you look about. the only thing that is worrying is his injury history which could be chalked up to a bad o-line. i feel if we do take a QB i would like to sit them and while we build and make sure we have an o-line that will give them protection before putting them on the field

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  • the0rangecrush
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    Originally posted by ERoyal248 View Post
    Nelson's as good of prospect there is, as safe of a pick to be an All-Pro for the next 10 years.

    I'd rather go elsewhere but he is great.
    For me it's down to Nelson or a trade down for Ward and Hernandez. Plus all the extra pieces.

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  • ERoyal248
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    Originally posted by Sam_Z View Post
    If y’all could have a combo of Quenton Nelson + Isaiah Oliver
    Or Denzel Ward + Will Hernandez, who do you take?

    I heard a rumor this morning, I don’t know how it could happen without trading the 5th pick but I heard if the Broncos drafted Nelson at 5, they would then trade back into the first for Oliver which would be a dream scenario.

    I’ve also heard the broncos could trade down but remain in the top 10 to draft Ward and then Hernandez at 40.

    Personally I do not believe Hernandez will be available at 40 but I do agree that Denver has two extreme needs outside of RB and that is OT & CB. I understand that we need an OT but I do not want to miss out on Ward or Oliver if either is on the board when we pick!!!!
    Hernandez and Ward considering we would still have both our 2nds in this scenario we deal with Buffalo along with double 3's, 4's and 5's.

    We'd have to move some capital to get back into the 1st.

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  • ERoyal248
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    Originally posted by Kansas Bob View Post
    I really like Nelson but I keep remembering '89 when many people were talking that Tony Mandarich was the best OT to every come out of college too! He was great in college but couldn't cut it with the Packers. Was it lack of coaching in the pros or just lack of talent? Sometimes it just happens.
    Myself, I would rather trade down if the opportunity arises.
    Nelson's as good of prospect there is, as safe of a pick to be an All-Pro for the next 10 years.

    I'd rather go elsewhere but he is great.

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  • Peanut
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    Originally posted by Peanut View Post
    Please remember that everyone is entitled to their opinions.Discuss if you disagree, but don't make it personal. This is not the Smack forum.

    Thank you.
    Originally posted by TheAsianPA View Post
    Looks like Peanut's got lots of cleaning to do on this thread :-/
    I knew I heard my name.

    Cleaning.


    EDIT: Cleaned. Second time for me. If it happens a third time, I'll get your attention in a different way.
    Last edited by Peanut; 04-16-2018, 03:49 PM.

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  • Butler By'Note
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    Originally posted by Kansas Bob View Post
    I really like Nelson but I keep remembering '89 when many people were talking that Tony Mandarich was the best OT to every come out of college too! He was great in college but couldn't cut it with the Packers. Was it lack of coaching in the pros or just lack of talent? Sometimes it just happens.
    Myself, I would rather trade down if the opportunity arises.
    Many differences between Mandarich and Nelson, with many red flags before Mandarich was drafted. 1. He's Canadian (we're a shifty bunch) 2. He missed public appearances leading up to the draft due to being drunk or hungover. 3. He was working on being a "colourful character" as shown in SI, rather than being a great o-lineman. 4. He started referring to Green Bay as a village. 4. He held out until the regular season began and then had attitude issues from the start insisting the coaching staff changes to cater to his personality rather than him having to listen to them. 5. Mandarich later admitted to both work ethic issues as well as being on steroids. 6. Mandarich also had substance abuse issues.

    Final point about Mandarich, after he came back and signed with the Colts he had 3 solid seasons with them, starting every game in 1997, a shoulder injury forced his retirement in 1998.

    The comparisons between Mandarich and Nelson appear to be that they are o-lineman (although Mandarich was a tackle) and that many had them rated extremely high going into the draft. However it appears that's where the comparisons end, because there's no sign that Nelson has any of the above 1-6 issues that Mandarich had.

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  • Jonny_Quest
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    Originally posted by Kyousukeneko View Post
    i feel like rosen may be up there with the other QBs

    my tree would look like this
    Darnold
    Rosen
    Nelson
    Mayfield
    trade down getting a boatlood of picks(multiple first and seconds from a team
    Chubb
    Elway has expressed public concern over Rosen's Injury history.

    This makes me think that Elway wouldn’t draft him. Could be a smokescreen, though.

    My take is that if you’re struggling to stay healthy in your early 20s, that’s unlikely to improve with age.

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  • Chillez
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    Originally posted by Sam_Z View Post
    If y’all could have a combo of Quenton Nelson + Isaiah Oliver
    Or Denzel Ward + Will Hernandez, who do you take?

    I heard a rumor this morning, I don’t know how it could happen without trading the 5th pick but I heard if the Broncos drafted Nelson at 5, they would then trade back into the first for Oliver which would be a dream scenario.

    I’ve also heard the broncos could trade down but remain in the top 10 to draft Ward and then Hernandez at 40.

    Personally I do not believe Hernandez will be available at 40 but I do agree that Denver has two extreme needs outside of RB and that is OT & CB. I understand that we need an OT but I do not want to miss out on Ward or Oliver if either is on the board when we pick!!!!
    That’s easy one Nelson and Oliver.

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  • armedequation
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    Nelson and oliver hands down for me.

    No offense NV but just saying your a coach means little to me. Your the paid professional. Why not tell us what you see that would make you not want to draft him? If you start talking x's and o's then thats one thing, just my opinion though. I mean this in the least snarky way possible.....
    Last edited by armedequation; 04-16-2018, 01:17 PM.

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