i feel itd be a mistake to trade down

[HUMCALC]

I've always said that building the OL is the most important thing

[CanDB]

I disagree with the thread statement...that trading down is a mistake. Until the smoke clears - FA, The Combine and other stories yet to unfold (ie. player gets nailed for some off the field mess up), we only know a part of the story on this day. Here are some of my thoughts:
1) If we sign Cousins, we do not need a top QB draftee. That would too QB rich. If you put your future in a player's hands, you do not double down with a top college QB. So you can either look for one gem in the pack, or trade down and take care of at least 2 positions. Say you trade with Buffalo and land picks 20 and 21 plus at least one more pick, you quickly can take care of a few positions (given we also pick early in round 2). And 20 and 21 are often very good picks. Often you win with 2 picks in round one, because some stud usually falls. Plus you can package some picks and potentially move back up a little if you see a great deal awaiting. Nothing wrong with landing one stud at 5, and I am not against it, but lets see how this plays out.

I can almost guarantee you that one of those players in pick #5 range will not be as popular come draft time. I doubt the order stays the same as we seem to believe it will be....today.

2) If we do not acquire Cousins, then I believe a QB will be drafted, HOPEFULLY along with a decent vet, to carry us until our draft QB gains credibility. Again, if we want Mayfield, maybe a deal to trade back is there, in which we still get Mayfield, but add at least one more pick to our draft. It's not new.....you get who you want, and gain some goodies as well. And who knows what Mayfield's stock will be come draft time. He may move up further or drop. So trading down is not in or out given what we know today.
3) The only way we keep the pick, and maybe even move up, is if we do not acquire a starting QB in FA. I can not see us moving down, because Elway will be QB hunting.

[ThreeGees]

Drew Lock, Shea Patterson, Jacob Eason, Clayson Thorson, Kelly Bryant, Jared Stidham are the best QB's next year.

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f this is the best that 2019 can offer, then we best get our QB now as 2020 is too far away.

[Kyousukeneko]

There are six O-Linemen who will probably be drafted in the first round: Tackles Williams, Brown and McGlinchey; Guards Nelson and Wynn; and, Center/Guard Price.

If there is a trade down scenario in which Denver got one of those Tackles and one of the inside guys, it would be a big step toward fixing their O-Line, IMO, because they would be in contention for a starting spot immediately.

personally i'd take nelson and rankin over any other combination expecially brown. brown has bust all over him.

i would actually make the opposite move if williams or mcglinchey drops past the top 20. i would be looking to move back into the first round to grab one.

either way would you rather have

Nelson and Rankins. or Wynn and Brown via trading down with buffalo cause i would be willing to put money that niether mcglinchey or williams make it out of the top 15.

i see it as better value to grab Nelson and a top OT at the top of the second end of the first depending how the drafts flows.

[Johnny Football]

I would propose staying at 5 and making a selection, and then potentially moving back up into the 1st at the back end of the round to take one of the offensive line prospects mentioned. I am a big fan of Isiah Wynn. He has so much versatility and despite a lot of people projecting him moving to guard in the NFL, he looks more then capable of playing tackle in my opinion. He also has experience playing at left tackle, guard, and center, which is very valuable to an offensive line without much talent. I am not sold on Bolles moving to right tackle though and it immediately working out either. There will be a learning curve with him moving from the left to right and I am not sure if Bolles has played much right tackle in his life.

[Kyousukeneko]

I would propose staying at 5 and making a selection, and then potentially moving back up into the 1st at the back end of the round to take one of the offensive line prospects mentioned. I am a big fan of Isiah Wynn. He has so much versatility and despite a lot of people projecting him moving to guard in the NFL, he looks more then capable of playing tackle in my opinion. He also has experience playing at left tackle, guard, and center, which is very valuable to an offensive line without much talent. I am not sold on Bolles moving to right tackle though and it immediately working out either. There will be a learning curve with him moving from the left to right and I am not sure if Bolles has played much right tackle in his life.

if we kept wynn at tackle i would think he would be a better RT. he remind me of forest lamp. he would be a tackle prospect if he wasn't short with short arms. now if his arms are oddly long for his height he could transistion to tackle. but ya if we get a QB in FA or what not that feel will be the starter for the forseeable future then i think grabing nelson and trading back into the first for an OT would be a great move.

[Ear2dastreets]

Here's what I'd do:

Sign a vet to a 1-year minimum deal.
Stay at 5 and take Fitzpatrick, if Talib leaves. If Talib stays, draft Nelson

I feel the same way....D ont want to break the bank for Kirk and don't trust the "top" qbs.....imo...

[Ear2dastreets]

If you don’t like this year’s qb group then you’re not going to like next years.

Not necessarily. Last year, which is this year class was called the best draft clas in years....none if the. Stepped up and made themselves the guy....to me they have more questions thus year then they did last year.

[TheAsianPA]

Whats the point of this? I understand taking a blue chip talent in Fitz or Nelson but spend another season without a QB? to purposely tank? That is a horrible idea. What vet on a 1 year deal is going to fix anything? If the idea is to tank just to get Vance out of here they wouldn't of retained him this year. What happens when we win more games next year and we aren't in a position to get one of the top QB's in next draft? Take advantage of the now because now is the time to take advantage with the high draft pick that we have.

Yeah I agree with this. No way the team is going to accept another placeholder at the QB position. We need someone to rally behind, not another Mark Sanchez. And as others have already said, if were not getting a QB this year in the draft its probably not getting better next year.

[TheAsianPA]

This isnt happening lol, Elway said a million times QB is the main priority. Everyone knows Denver will be going hard for a QB this offseason, worst kept secret in the NFL.

If Denver doesnt land Cousins, they'll be going QB. While i prefer Cousins plus top tier prospect at 5. Signing some impact FA's and getting a QB isnt a bad alternative either.

Yeah for some reason, one way or another, it seems like the Broncos have the most broadcasted off season intentions of any NFL team. Everyone knew we were drafting a QB in 2016, an OT in 2017, and if we don't get a QB in free agency this year, that's what were picking this year in the draft. It'll probably be either Mayfield or Allen if Rosen isn't available.

[TheAsianPA]

There are six O-Linemen who will probably be drafted in the first round: Tackles Williams, Brown and McGlinchey; Guards Nelson and Wynn; and, Center/Guard Price.

If there is a trade down scenario in which Denver got one of those Tackles and one of the inside guys, it would be a big step toward fixing their O-Line, IMO, because they would be in contention for a starting spot immediately.

I think we need to get one or two of those players. Preferably Nelson and McGlinchey, but I don't know how. Looking at last nights game, as much credit as I give to Foles, without that monster O line protecting him it probably wouldn't have been competitive. We should be focusing on O line in the early rounds right after QB, I can't think of anything more important to improve.

[ksubroncosfan]

Not necessarily. Last year, which is this year class was called the best draft clas in years....none if the. Stepped up and made themselves the guy....to me they have more questions thus year then they did last year.

I disagree. I think I remember going into the draft most analysts saying last year’s class was pretty weak.

[Ear2dastreets]

I disagree. I think I remember going into the draft most analysts saying last year’s class was pretty weak.

No I mean the jrs...in college last year which are the ones coming out know.

[dukes88]

Moving down from #5 would be a mistake - you don't end up in a position like this often (well, we don't want to be anyway). Have to take the best player available regardless of need imo.

[listopencil]

There are six O-Linemen who will probably be drafted in the first round: Tackles Williams, Brown and McGlinchey; Guards Nelson and Wynn; and, Center/Guard Price.

If there is a trade down scenario in which Denver got one of those Tackles and one of the inside guys, it would be a big step toward fixing their O-Line, IMO, because they would be in contention for a starting spot immediately.

I think you have to throw in OG Will Hernandez as a potential first round guy after the Senior Bowl.