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  • #46
    Jeffrey Essary
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    So Denver pushes Von Miller's cap hits to $25M the next two years. Sounds like they plan to have significant space elsewhere on the roster from a player on an extremely affordable contract.

    Now where would they get such a discount from?

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    Essary makes a very good observation here...
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    • #47
      Biggest question: Why did we wait so long to make this restructure happen?!? Had we done it even a week ago we could have gone into the first wave of free agency with more flexibility and a bigger war chest. We could have gone for real stars.

      There is no way Von turned down or slow-walked an offer to transfer non-guaranteed money into guaranteed money up front. So it logically must have been Elway et al who didn't make this choice until just now.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Murph2432 View Post
        We also need to resign Paradis and Roby to extension
        Which would actually give us even more cap space. ESPN was talking about that yesterday. If we went ahead and signed Roby to a long term deal, we could make it where only 3-5 million hits the cap this year with the rest being signing bonus. Same with Paradise, if we sign them long term we could free up another 5-8 million

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        • #49
          Originally posted by GiddyupGetEm View Post
          Biggest question: Why did we wait so long to make this restructure happen?!? Had we done it even a week ago we could have gone into the first wave of free agency with more flexibility and a bigger war chest. We could have gone for real stars.

          There is no way Von turned down or slow-walked an offer to transfer non-guaranteed money into guaranteed money up front. So it logically must have been Elway et al who didn't make this choice until just now.
          This wasn’t a overnight thing. We knew the money we had with this restructure. Nothing would of happened different from two days ago to today.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by gerontion View Post
            Denver offered good contracts to both of them. They simply took more money to play in Jacksonville. Not everyone is going to take a hometown discount like Harris and Wolfe.
            We were being cheap and frugile. We should have extended Malik before he expired into free agency

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            • #51
              Originally posted by NVthosebroncos View Post
              Which would actually give us even more cap space. ESPN was talking about that yesterday. If we went ahead and signed Roby to a long term deal, we could make it where only 3-5 million hits the cap this year with the rest being signing bonus. Same with Paradise, if we sign them long term we could free up another 5-8 million
              How would it free up money for Matt? He only makes 2.9 this year. If you extend him, would he still be making 2.9 or more

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Rastic View Post
                Ray was placed on the IR and didn't return until mid-October and was again injured in early December. He played hurt. Maybe he doesn't pan out, being too injury prone, or maybe last season was a fluke when he came back in October when he should not have.

                Regardless, Barrett as a starter did not live up to his hype from 2016 with the difference being Ware. Get Ray healthy and I think we'll see more consistent production.

                Agreed on the push on the inside. That is a difference maker when you have a strong outside threat and even a decent secondary. That was really the difference maker in our SB 50 run.
                make or break yr for Ray. Healthy Ray is good but He seems to always be on the injury report.
                Broncos have to add inside threat along with a rotational OLB cuz they won't be able to pay both Ray and Barrett next yr.
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                • #53
                  Originally posted by NVthosebroncos View Post
                  Our draft class will cost 9 million, emergencies 5 million that leaves us 16-20 million before any cuts. We could sign Suh, Decker or Eifert. And have an emergency fund and draft money without making any cuts. However I do believe Suh is locked in with the Seahawks.
                  Suhs current contract ended at 19 million. Its fair to assume that's where contract negotiations start. With Suh, that's about it before more cuts such as CJ. But if Decker and Eifert sign here, that's probably only 8-10 million in cap space used up. There's probably space for Justin Pugh as well, and that covers our RT, WR, and TE needs. Suh isn't worth losing out on 3 needs with his contract.
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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by kingelway7 View Post
                    Essary makes a very good observation here...
                    Elway to von. “Restructure and I’ll make your season by adding Suh. Von to elway “done.”

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by gerontion View Post
                      Denver offered good contracts to both of them. They simply took more money to play in Jacksonville. Not everyone is going to take a hometown discount like Harris and Wolfe.
                      Harris took a HomeTown discount....Wolfe on the other hand robbed himself.
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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by SaltySnipes View Post
                        Elway to von. “Restructure and I’ll make your season by adding Suh. Von to elway “done.”
                        Looks like Suh and Seattle are showing mutual interest

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by TheAsianPA View Post
                          Suhs current contract ended at 19 million. Its fair to assume that's where contract negotiations start. With Suh, that's about it before more cuts such as CJ. But if Decker and Eifert sign here, that's probably only 8-10 million in cap space used up. There's probably space for Justin Pugh as well, and that covers our RT, WR, and TE needs. Suh isn't worth losing out on 3 needs with his contract.
                          Yes he is. Without Suh, von gets triple teamed and neutralized. Teams just step up in the pocket and carve us up. We can’t draft a Suh... we can draft a third WR and a tight end..

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by SaltySnipes View Post
                            We were being cheap and frugile. We should have extended Malik before he expired into free agency
                            Denver offered Jackson at least 50 million over 5 years. That's not chump change. We also had to worry about resigning Von. As far as Campbell, he was set to sign with the Jags when Elway offered a comparable deal. He changed his mind. The Jags offered even more money, and he changed his mind again.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by kingelway7 View Post
                              Essary makes a very good observation here...
                              Yeah Because Denver's core players Wolfe, CHJ, Paradis, DT, Sanders, Roby, Peko, Ray And Barrett all have expiring contracts or options to get out of the contracts with minimal dead cap space.
                              Broncos are on the edge of a rebuild. If they miss the playoffs next year they can blow it up and have a really good Cap Space situation.
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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by munoz1987 View Post
                                Yeah Because Denver's core players Wolfe, CHJ, Paradis, DT, Sanders, Roby, Peko, Ray And Barrett all have expiring contracts or options to get out of the contracts with minimal dead cap space.
                                Broncos are on the edge of a rebuild. If they miss the playoffs next year they can blow it up and have a really good Cap Space situation.
                                Technically we’re in “win now mode”

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