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  • #61
    Originally posted by TheAsianPA View Post
    They really don't if were being honest. That's why even though Sua is a talented hybrid safety linebacker he is still a risky signing. Why else would the Redskins give him away for essentially a 5th round pick? Even still though, its only a 5th round pick, and its worth the risk if it means we have a reliable player to cover tight ends
    I'm feeling a little better about this trade after reading this. He says all the right things and only time will tell if he's right or not......





    On a side note this article says that Cravens will be competing with Stewart for the starting role at strong safety......


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    • #62
      If he wants to play, the risk is low. The question is how does he come back after a year away? both mentally and physically. We will have to wait for the season to start to find out those answers.
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      • #63
        Originally posted by broncolassiter View Post
        If he wants to play, the risk is low. The question is how does he come back after a year away? both mentally and physically. We will have to wait for the season to start to find out those answers.
        Depends on how far from the game he got and how well he took care of his body before and after his "retirement".

        We may very well not see an impact from him on defense until Mid-season.

        In that case it is on coaching to manage the risk of injury if he is not ready
        Skill + Effort = Talent. Talent + Effort = Achievement. A. Duckworth - Grit.

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          • #65
            Too bad with the new nfl rules we won't be able to see him play at full potential

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            • #66
              Cravens's press conference today was positive. He said all the right things to demonstrate to me that whatever behavioral health issues he had in recent years are under control and his love for football is burning. We still have to see how he responds to adversity, but if he is healthy (in mind and body) Elway may have found one of his best moves in his tenure.

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              • #67
                Sigh...ANOTHER damaged, rehab player. Are the Broncos becoming a junkyard reclamaition organization?

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by ArchAngel View Post
                  Sigh...ANOTHER damaged, rehab player. Are the Broncos becoming a junkyard reclamaition organization?
                  22 years old. 3 years left on a rookie contract. Starting caliber SS with exceptional RB and TE cover skills.... yep sounds like complete junk!

                  - GB2

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by samparnell View Post
                    Sounds like a three-Safety defense with the ability to run all the Cover 2 possibilities as well.
                    Big Nickel?
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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by GiddyupGetEm View Post
                      Cravens's press conference today was positive. He said all the right things to demonstrate to me that whatever behavioral health issues he had in recent years are under control and his love for football is burning. We still have to see how he responds to adversity, but if he is healthy (in mind and body) Elway may have found one of his best moves in his tenure.
                      Originally posted by 16TheSnake View Post
                      22 years old. 3 years left on a rookie contract. Starting caliber SS with exceptional RB and TE cover skills.... yep sounds like complete junk!

                      - GB2
                      I’m looking forward to seeing how he plays. Small risk with potential for big reward. I didn’t get to see his press conference but it sounds like he’s in a good place.

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by listopencil View Post
                        Big Nickel?
                        Could be Big Nickel, 4-2-5 or 3-3-5. A 4-3 base with a Backer out and a Safety in can become 4-2-5 or Big Nickel. The 4-2-5 is Gary Patterson's base defense and has certain rules like the two QB defense. A 3-4 base with a Backer out and a Safety in can become 3-3-5 depending on how they play run D and how the third Safety is used. The 3-3-5 is Rocky Long's and Rich Rodriguez's base defense. Rocky's plays gap control and each snap is a call. Depending on what kind of player the third Safety is, he can be at LOS, play in the box like a Backer, or as a DB and can't be keyed.
                        "Stultum est timere quod vitare non potes." ~ Publilius Syrus

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by samparnell View Post
                          Could be Big Nickel, 4-2-5 or 3-3-5. A 4-3 base with a Backer out and a Safety in can become 4-2-5 or Big Nickel. The 4-2-5 is Gary Patterson's base defense and has certain rules like the two QB defense. A 3-4 base with a Backer out and a Safety in can become 3-3-5 depending on how they play run D and how the third Safety is used. The 3-3-5 is Rocky Long's and Rich Rodriguez's base defense. Rocky's plays gap control and each snap is a call. Depending on what kind of player the third Safety is, he can be at LOS, play in the box like a Backer, or as a DB and can't be keyed.
                          Yea, what he said...

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by samparnell View Post
                            Could be Big Nickel, 4-2-5 or 3-3-5. A 4-3 base with a Backer out and a Safety in can become 4-2-5 or Big Nickel. The 4-2-5 is Gary Patterson's base defense and has certain rules like the two QB defense. A 3-4 base with a Backer out and a Safety in can become 3-3-5 depending on how they play run D and how the third Safety is used. The 3-3-5 is Rocky Long's and Rich Rodriguez's base defense. Rocky's plays gap control and each snap is a call. Depending on what kind of player the third Safety is, he can be at LOS, play in the box like a Backer, or as a DB and can't be keyed.
                            Not a lot of teams in the NFL go to a 3-3-5 nickel defense. I can only think of Dennis Allen running that. Actually the Steelers might a little bit as well. But most teams (Denver included) tend to go to the 4-2-5.

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Butler By'Note View Post
                              Not a lot of teams in the NFL go to a 3-3-5 nickel defense. I can only think of Dennis Allen running that. Actually the Steelers might a little bit as well. But most teams (Denver included) tend to go to the 4-2-5.
                              Right. In Super Bowl XLIV, the Saints' D frustrated Peyton Manning with the 3-3-5, especially in the second half culminating with a 74 yard pick six by Tracy Porter. Many commentators wanted to give the credit for that to Gregg Williams, but I'm pretty sure he got it from Dennis Allen who was his Secondary coach at the time. I think Allen picked the 3-3-5 up when he was coaching at Tulsa. Back then Tulsa, Troy, West Virginia and UNM were running the 3-3-5. Dennis ran some 3-3-5 in Denver in 2011.

                              There were certain defenses and defensive looks that caused Peyton Manning problems. The common denominator was any defensive scheme or call that put defenders where he didn't expect them to be. Zone Blitz, Cover 2 Robber and the 3-3-5 were examples of those that could fool PM. Also, DCs started showing one look and switching just before the snap. Anything that could confuse PM is worth studying.

                              In his Indy years, PM used mostly 11 personnel formations with no motion in order to force the D to align to his balanced formation so he could get a clean pre-snap read. After that, it was a matter of execution based on hours and hours of practice with his receivers.

                              The 3-3-5 isn't common at any level of which I am aware. For that reason it would be difficult to implement just from lack of coaches and their expertise. Many coaches look at it and think it's an odd front with the usual two-gap, 0 tech commanding a double mind-set. Some look at Wade Phillips' D that way, too.

                              One difference between Wade's D and 3-3-5 run D is that he tends to line his front seven up the same way over half the time and each player in that alignment always has the same gap responsibility. 3-3-5 mixes the gap responsibilities of the 3-3 guys up, so that it's different from one snap to the next. The third Safety sometimes rotates into the gap attack, and these variations have a tendency to foul up the O-Line blocking assignments.

                              I'd have to check to see, but at the moment the only colleges that I know of using 3-3-5 defense are San Diego State, Arizona and UNM. There are probably more, but not many I don't think. Dennis Allen may be using it in New Orleans, but I don't see the Saints play enough to be able to tell.
                              "Stultum est timere quod vitare non potes." ~ Publilius Syrus

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by samparnell View Post
                                Could be Big Nickel, 4-2-5 or 3-3-5. A 4-3 base with a Backer out and a Safety in can become 4-2-5 or Big Nickel. The 4-2-5 is Gary Patterson's base defense and has certain rules like the two QB defense. A 3-4 base with a Backer out and a Safety in can become 3-3-5 depending on how they play run D and how the third Safety is used. The 3-3-5 is Rocky Long's and Rich Rodriguez's base defense. Rocky's plays gap control and each snap is a call. Depending on what kind of player the third Safety is, he can be at LOS, play in the box like a Backer, or as a DB and can't be keyed.
                                Any ideas what Joe Woods will do based on how he called games last year? It would be nice to be able change things up and keep the O's guessing but can you foresee any tendencies at all?
                                Adopt-A-Bronco: Tim Patrick

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