Report: 3 NFL teams have called about No. 5 pick

[Rastic]

Didn’t the rams win with Kurt Warner

Yes, he did. One of my all time favorite Super Bowls.

[armedequation]

Yes, he did. One of my all time favorite Super Bowls.

Nothing like going from bagging groceries to winning superbowls

[the0rangecrush]

Looking at trade partners.

Miami: 1, 2, 3 this year, 1 next year.
Arizona, same.
Buffalo: I'd try to get their two 1's this year and next year's 1, but i think we'd settle for 1sts this year, 2nd this year and next, and swap 3rds.

Buffalo is probably the most attractive option IMO. However, Arizona if they give up next years #1 is very veryintriguing, their roster is in rough shape and are in a tough division. Could end up being a very high pick in a draft chalk full of DL talent.

[listopencil]

Didn’t the rams win with Kurt Warner

Yup, you are right. I had forgotten about them winning it with Kurt Warner. They got him as a FA with a futures contract. The season after that there was some shuffling around at the position and he ended up being the #2QB. After an injury to the #1QB, Warner was named starter. Turned out that he had a great team around him and they won one.

[GiddyupGetEm]

Elway’s track record with first rounders is not good. We have to keep access to “can’t miss” players. Trading back is a terrible move.

[wmp]

Didn’t the rams win with Kurt Warner

Why they did. Over the Titans.

[JvDub95]

Elway’s track record with first rounders is not good. We have to keep access to “can’t miss” players. Trading back is a terrible move.

They're not that bad, every GM has hits and miss's in early rounds. Everybody gives Ozzie Newsome all kinds of praise for his drafting but he miss's just as much as he hits. Sure he drafted Ray Lewis, Jonathan Ogden and Ed Reed but he also drafted Kyle Boller, Travis Taylor and Mark Clayton.

[Jonny_Quest]

For points value picks in future years are with midway of the round below where there value is this year. So a 1st in 2019 would be worth the 16th pick in round 2 this year.

If I was a franchise owner I would tell my GM to always trade for future picks when possible. Being able to upgrade a whole round is worth way more than waiting a year,

Most team’s desperation to win now has devalued future picks to the point you could make a killing with a little patience.

[crp24lbc]

The Eagles won a Superbowl with a third round QB because they had a great team around him and he played really well. The Rams have never won a Superbowl, but are currently trying to add impact players to build a great team to give themselves a chance to win one. The Chiefs won a Superbowl back before the first bar code was created and haven't been back since. The Texans have never won a Superbowl but they did manage to steal our second round flop away and then pay to get rid of him. These are not examples of franchises that you want to mimic, other than trying to build a great team.

So instead u want to trade back and consistently pass on potential franchise QBs like the Browns do every year. Yea that's a great franchise to mimic

[dgobronco]

If I was a franchise owner I would tell my GM to always trade for future picks when possible. Being able to upgrade a whole round is worth way more than waiting a year,

Most team’s desperation to win now has devalued future picks to the point you could make a killing with a little patience.

Unless you actually want to win...the Browns have been following this plan for years. I for one enjoy watching wins more than losses, even if somewhere in the back of my mind I know we're going to have high draft picks in the future.

[Jonny_Quest]

Unless you actually want to win...the Browns have been following this plan for years. I for one enjoy watching wins more than losses, even if somewhere in the back of my mind I know we're going to have high draft picks in the future

That is not the reason the Browns are the Browns. They're they Browns because they fail on every organizational level, especially scouting.

You trade maybe 1.5 picks per year on average? If that?

Pushing 1 pick out every year to upgrade it an entire round is not going to hurt a franchise. It would pay off big time if you have decent scouting and roster-building philosophies.

Say you traded your third round pick every year for a second round pick the following year. That would mean you would have to go without a 3rd round pick for one year, and from that year forward you would have two second rounders rather than a second and a third.

I'm really having trouble picturing how that would make you the Browns.

[dgobronco]

That is not the reason the Browns are the Browns. They're they Browns because they fail on every organizational level, especially scouting.

You trade maybe 1.5 picks per year on average? If that?

Pushing 1 pick out every year to upgrade it an entire round is not going to hurt a franchise. It would pay off big time if you have decent scouting and roster-building philosophies.

Say you traded your third round pick every year for a second round pick the following year. That would mean you would have to go without a 3rd round pick for one year, and from that year forward you would have two second rounders rather than a second and a third.

I'm really having trouble picturing how that would make you the Browns.

The Browns are the poster child, but they’re hardly alone in missing on picks. We’re in a world of hurt due to PL failing to become a starter. Imagine if we had a solid QB this offseason! If you postpone pics, you just magnify the impacts of the misses. Every GM makes them, which is why it’s tough to build a winner by losing.

[listopencil]

So instead u want to trade back and consistently pass on potential franchise QBs like the Browns do every year. Yea that's a great franchise to mimic

So, instead of addressing my point you want to construct a straw man and have a discussion with it. That's nice. Have fun. Let me know when the two of you are finished.