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  • 15thebeast
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    Originally posted by skeeter01 View Post
    If Denver trades with Washington, picking up Bush @ 15 would be ok with me.....only if Lock is gone though
    If we was going to trade back and select a linebacker I think I’d prefer Mack Wilson, we need linebacker who can play in pass coverage, Bush to me just seems like a downhill thumper

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  • skeeter01
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    Originally posted by Kyousukeneko View Post
    i saw a rumor the broncos may like bush, but he has pushed him self into like top 15-20 catagory with his work out.
    If Denver trades with Washington, picking up Bush @ 15 would be ok with me.....only if Lock is gone though

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  • johnlimburg
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    I am pretty sure every defensive coach every where place a pretty high priority on tackling. Obviously Devin White is a raw prospect, a very exciting, potential filled raw prospect, but I would steer clear of him personally. He has a very high ceiling, but a very low floor, and he is the definition of a boom or bust player in my opinion. His name is hot right now immediately post combine, but I am not locking him in the top 5 just yet. People always get carried away and caught in the moment, but there is still plenty of time to be spent by these teams digging into the tape, and doing so with White brings up a lot of question marks, I think he is there at 10.

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  • Kyousukeneko
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    Originally posted by skeeter01 View Post
    Fangio said "tackling" or lack there of is a deal breaker. My guess is, we will pass on White. Just read that Denver has interviewed multiple mid round ILB's { still think Lock is the pick IF he's there at 10 }
    i saw a rumor the broncos may like bush, but he has pushed him self into like top 15-20 catagory with his work out.

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  • Montoya
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    What about double dipping with C.J. AND White.

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  • skeeter01
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    Fangio said "tackling" or lack there of is a deal breaker. My guess is, we will pass on White. Just read that Denver has interviewed multiple mid round ILB's { still think Lock is the pick IF he's there at 10 }

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  • listopencil
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    Well, crap. After that speed in the 40 at the combine I'm worried that he wo't be there at #10. And it's not like I've got a draft crush on the guy. I just thought he'd be good value at our pick.

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  • beastlyskronk
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    Devin White is still learning to play LB, you have to remember he was a RB coming to college. He still reads plays like a RB and that’s where a lot of his weaknesses come from

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  • broncos SB2010
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    Strengths

    Shorter legs, longer torso improves center of gravity
    Well put together with excellent musculation throughout his limbs
    Unorthodox, but finds the football
    Voracious student of the game
    Major spikes in production over last two seasons
    Quick-twitch trigger with big burst to close
    Shoots gaps looking to makes plays into the backfield
    Quick sink and drive for effective change of direction
    Agility to sift from gap to gap to track bouncing runners
    Lose upper body to spin and pivot around moving blocks
    Weight-room champ with impressive strength numbers across the board
    Pursuit speed closes the gap allowing for additional tackle opportunities
    Aggressive and purposeful in tugging the ball loose from running backs
    Active hands in space to challenge throws in space

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  • Joshua2585
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    Originally posted by gerontion View Post
    What are some of the sources you've looked at? I honestly hadn't heard those criticisms of him. Here's one report that is sort of the opposite.


    http://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2019dwhite.php
    Weaknesses

    Instincts are very average
    Can be fooled by key fakes and misdirection
    Coaxed out of position two different times by the same run play versus Alabama
    Diagnosis can run behind
    Too many false steps in initial movement
    Gets caught behind climbing linemen and doesn't always fight to disengage
    Not a natural knee-bender in space
    Running backs consistently finish under his pads
    Take-on technique needs plenty of work
    Uses shoulder challenges with hands as an afterthought
    Misses tackles when footwork and scrape balance get too loose
    Hard flows to sideline lack leverage and patience
    Relatively unchallenged as a coverage option

    https://www.nfl.com/prospects/devin-...e-8aace4ba0d48

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  • TheAsianPA
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    Originally posted by myoung View Post
    I have seen the video and agree that it is very good. My other concern with White is that ILB is not a premium draft spot or pay for most teams. If we pick someone at #10, I hope it is not a guy that has several attributes "that need to be coached out of him"

    I don't think White will be a bust, although there is always a possibility. I think there is a legitimate chance he will be average or below average. If we pick an ILB at #10 we need him to be a perennial pro bowler. I would take almost any other position before ILB given our needs across the board. I think we could use an upgrade at almost every position (Edge rusher an obvious exception).
    Brett Kollman also thought Brock Osweiler was going to be a franchise QB with the Texans, so there's that for his "in-depth" analysis. He makes a lot of observations, but how relevant they are to the overall picture hasn't been proven.

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  • Kyousukeneko
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    Originally posted by Pdtimm View Post
    Thank you for the insight. I read that Bush was a better tackler as well. I guess I don't see after the combine a huge difference between the two. One comparison I read said White had higher ceiling as he is just learning the position. While Bush had the higher floor. Either way I hope Denver goes Defense with first pick, too much high end talent.
    if white goes top 5. bush may end up in the 10-15. Fangio has worked with smaller Lbers and succeeded with them AKa Sam Mills. he also values tackling so i wouldn't rule out bush at all. plus Bush's tape is really good i feel. White is still a work in progess and a bit of a work out warrior. Bush actually looked really good and was a natural leader at Michigan. i am not sure i can say the same with White.

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  • legend
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    Imagine being an ILB in the upcoming draft knowing you have Miller, Chubb and Fangio to work with? You'd be foaming at the mouth to go to the Broncos!

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  • Pdtimm
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    Thank you for the insight. I read that Bush was a better tackler as well. I guess I don't see after the combine a huge difference between the two. One comparison I read said White had higher ceiling as he is just learning the position. While Bush had the higher floor. Either way I hope Denver goes Defense with first pick, too much high end talent.

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  • Kyousukeneko
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    Originally posted by Pdtimm View Post
    I am a Michigan fan as well as a Broncos fan. What does White do better then Bush? I personally want Devin Bush in a trade back. One other intersesting fact is Vic was on Harbaughs staff in SF. So I am sure he knows exactly what he would be getting.
    better length and he sheds blockers better. i'd rated bush as a better tackler.

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