Broncos inquiring about Stefon Diggs

[JvDub95]

I would love to trade for Diggs, and still draft Ruggs if he is available. The thought of Sutton, Diggs, Ruggs, Fant, Lindsay, and Freeman; let it rip, young fella! An arsenal for Lock. Throw in a FA OL, and one of Jones/Slay and that’s a dream.

I hope we’re aggressive this offseason.

Works for me 👍

[lvbronx]

I would love to trade for Diggs, and still draft Ruggs if he is available. The thought of Sutton, Diggs, Ruggs, Fant, Lindsay, and Freeman; let it rip, young fella! An arsenal for Lock. Throw in a FA OL, and one of Jones/Slay and that’s a dream.

I hope we’re aggressive this offseason.

I agree that we need two WRs. If we're going to beat KC we'll probably need to be able to score 35. With this draft we could trade down and pretty much be assured of getting a quality WR like Shenault or Reagor and pick up a 3rd or or more. In today's NFL I believe you need 5 legit threats on Offense knowing someone has to have a mismatch.

[Sam_Z]

I agree that we need two WRs. If we're going to beat KC we'll probably need to be able to score 35. With this draft we could trade down and pretty much be assured of getting a quality WR like Shenault or Reagor and pick up a 3rd or or more. In today's NFL I believe you need 5 legit threats on Offense knowing someone has to have a mismatch.

You also need key threats at other positions on both offense and defense.

A good pass catching WR out of the back field as well as a fast home run threat.

A great blocking, pass catching TE. A lot goes into it, even a threat at full back assuming we utilize one.

[montee2ball]

I would love to trade for Diggs, and still draft Ruggs if he is available. The thought of Sutton, Diggs, Ruggs, Fant, Lindsay, and Freeman; let it rip, young fella! An arsenal for Lock. Throw in a FA OL, and one of Jones/Slay and that’s a dream.

I hope we’re aggressive this offseason.

I think that Ruggs will show out at the Combine and a team will be enamoured with him, Jacksonville, Raiders, Colts to name a few. If Elway goes to Shurmur and asks his opinion and Shurmur gives the 👍 up, give up one of the threes. This being a deep WR class, how Reagor in the second or K.J. Hill in the third. But being me, I’d like Wirfs in the first and Reagor in the second, give up a third for Diggs. Sutton, Diggs, Reagor and Fant are not bad to start with.

[lvbronx]

You also need key threats at other positions on both offense and defense.

A good pass catching WR out of the back field as well as a fast home run threat.

A great blocking, pass catching TE. A lot goes into it, even a threat at full back assuming we utilize one.

Yes and IMO Fant and Lindsay are mismatches along with Sutton and we need two more at WR since I don't consider Patrick or Hamilton players that command attention.

[johnlimburg]

First things first. I've already explained what I meant by "after the draft." You can continue to call during the season after the draft if you want to, but then, since the new league year hasn't started yet, it's currently STILL after the draft. Regardless, I meant between the draft and the start of the season, and I stick to my original statement that it's rare to see a trade for skill players happen during that time frame, because, well, it is rare, usually happening in the case of injury for the team needing the player, or for a ridiculous return in picks or other players.

As for the google comment and you providing me a few, you provided 1. 5-3 Carolina Panthers. Benjamin had 32 catches through 8 gaames (half the season). Buffalo is not an example of a competitive team likely to make the playoffs, also not an example of a receiver of Diggs standing being traded. Watkins was coming off a season in which he only played 8 games and only had 28 receptions (It helps if you actually read the information you find on google). They were coming off a 7-9 season in 2016 (3rd in division, no playoffs), had a new head coach and no significant free agent signings. Can't argue competitiveness nor likely to make the playoffs. They were the 5th longest odds to make the playoffs before the season started (Vegas), and no one was picking them to do so. And the Lions had a losing record (3-4) and were in last place in their division. You want to argue if they were competitive, go ahead, but likely to make the playoffs? No. So again, you've given 1 example.

Lastly, you have me confused with other people. Not once have I promoted the Broncos trading for Diggs, nor have I praised him. I merely presented a theory for why we might be doing it, which would necessitate that we do it before the draft. But purely off the top of my head, maybe the team just realizes it's unlikely to be able to re-sign Diggs at the end of his contract, so they might as well get something in return for him while they can, especially considering the depth of the position in THIS YEARS draft. Another reason why before the draft is probably pretty important for them.

And just to put an end to this back and forth...rare; (of an event, situation, or condition) not occurring very often. You can give an example here, an example there, but you can't provide 'often'. I can define that word as well, but what's the point. I made a claim, you then decided to tell me I was wrong, and you haven't been able to actually prove that, other than to change the parameters of what I actually meant, and even then, you haven't been able to provide anywhere near enough examples to equal often. Because if it doesn't happen often, that's right, it's rare. Thank you and have a great day.

Thank you for all that background information regarding the Bills previous season, but none of that is relevant. The Bills traded away a starting wide receiver at the time, and regardless of what you think regarding their potential as a playoff team, they went on to make the playoffs, they obviously were not looking to tank due to them knowing they had no shot. That is a second example for you. Also, the Golden Tate trade, it doesn't fit all of your criteria, but they were 1 game shy of .500 before playing half a season of football, they were not in tank mode. they were competitive, were they no longer trying at that point too ? Maybe, but they were not completely done.

Just to be clear in case you forgot what you actually said. "Name a single competitive team, likely to make the playoffs, that traded away a starting WR". I did that, you admitted I done that, and for the second time during this conversation, you have moved the goal posts after statements you have made, that doesn't make the basis of a solid argument. Everything I said stands and was backed up, on both occasions you moved the goal posts.

[JvDub95]

May all be a mute point, sounds like Vikings may just hold onto their Diva WR.....

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/02/19/report-vikings-unlikely-to-part-ways-with-stefon-diggs/

[DN1218]

May all be a mute point, sounds like Vikings may just hold onto their Diva WR.....

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...-stefon-diggs/

Might be trying to up the price for him as well though. 🤔🤔

[mozzerpete]

If I were Elway, I'd sign

Breshad Perriman $$$
Amari Cooper $$$$
R5 James Proche $

Sutton, Perriman, Patrick, Winfree,
Cooper, Porche, Hamilton/Spencer

Returners: Perriman/Spencer

[HDbroncos02]

I wonder if two of our 3rds would be enough for Diggs. This guy is a stud and clearly flourished in Shurmur’s system. He’s a proven star talent. Pair him up opposite Sutton and with a real, promising QB in Lock and our offense immediately looks extremely competitive.

[HDbroncos02]

And I am absolutely sick of fans (and this board) calling wide receivers who are expressive, “divas” or “prima donnas”. Not everyone is Larry Fitzgerald or Demaryius Thomas. I mean, y’all went off on Emmanuel Sanders because of false rumors of him being a “locker room cancer” and his frustrated comments in the media (as anyone else would be, considering the state of our team at the time). Now you guys see the recent video that surfaced of him giving an incredible pep talk to some young players at a training session.

Ask Minnesota fans, Adam Thielen was more of a “diva” and actually bickered with Kirk Cousins in-game than Diggs ever was. According to PFF, the ONLY time Diggs had 10+ targets last season, he went off for 7 catches, 167 yards and 3 TDs. He’s one of the best route runners in the league right now. We don’t need to give up a 1st or 2nd for him. I don’t see why we shouldn’t at least try to land him.

[beastlyskronk]

I don’t think Lock would have a problem dealing with Diggs honestly, he relates very well to his teammates. The only question should be is he worth what we’re giving up for his price tag. Personally I think he’s worth it as long as it isn’t a 2nd round pick. 1 3rd round pick won’t get the deal done though so something else will have to be added in.

[Saddletramp]

Sorry if there already is a thread on this.

I’m hearing that the broncos may offer a second as well as Tim Patrick or Desean Hamilton in a trade for Diggs.

Kubiak is the new OC in Minnesota and he’s very familiar with the Broncos offensive roster. There is even speculation that he may ask for either Freeman or Booker.

I’d trade Freeman first, Booker may not be worth a darn as a rusher but he’s a pretty good blocker and pass catcher out of the back field but there’s a still the chance that we resign Riddick to fill that role.

Also Paul Richardson is still very fast and would add veteran leadership so I’d pursue him as well.

Go out and get both guys and then focus on O-line and Defense in the draft. Maybe forget about Ruggs but instead get KJ Hamler in the third!

Too expensive. There are draft picks that can be had cheaper.

[atwaterandstir]

I would prefer we draft a couple of young playmakers as opposed to locking in cap to one position. Especially with Sutton getting a large chunk starting soon. It sounds intriguing now, but in two years those two would be a large hit to the cap. The Chiefs haven't even had to start making hard cap decisions but it sounds like Watkins will be the first to go. I know he hasn't really lived up to his draft expectations, but he would be an interesting fit in Denver as well.

What I do like about the thought of Diggs is he could still lead a WR group if necessary. He's is a lot like Sanders in that aspect. I hate to think of not resigning Sutton but Diggs could give us that option at that point......especially if we have developed a young guy or two by then.

[Butler By'Note]

Cleaned a couple of posts, lets stay on topic, debate the subject, leave the personal stuff out.