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Originally posted by johnlimburg View PostWe have enquired about Diggs ? The report I seen was that we were doing our "due diligence" on Diggs, not we have asked about actually getting him. I also thought the report was the stuff fan fiction and fan reporters of SI and Mile High Report write, not anything concrete. And again, I don't think we did go after them guys. I think all those names were cooked up by fans who were hoping we went after them, but never actually were linked beyond again, some fan reporters guessing making vague links. We will see how it pans out, but free agency mega spending isn't how to build a winning team, unless Manning becomes available.
Really hope we don’t give up picks for Slay and Diggs =|
I’d rather keep the picks and sign Byron Jones and Robbie Anderson
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Originally posted by underrated29 View PostWe do not have to but we likely will. I expect elway to go heavy on Denfense in FA and offense heavy in the draft. Either way, we know we have looked at Slay, Jones is a top target of ours and we have inquired about diggs.
Last year or was it the year prior? Cant rememebr but we went hard for CJ mosley, Amos, Colias, all while having no cap.
We landed Talib, Welker, Demarcus Ware, Tj Ward, and a few others all with 30 mil cap space. We have more than double that.
We also need to remember we are not going to keep all of our like 12 picks. We do not have room for that many on the roster either. We will be burning several of those to trade up and to trade for players.
Also keep in mind elway likes to fill holes on the team in FA so that he is not forced to draft that position. Expect us to sign a fair few players. He will be active.
PS- (not to you in general) Callahan is a stud. Sucks he couldnt play for us but Chubb only played like 2 more games than he did for us. We are all excited to have Chubb back. Callahan is really really really good. Really good!! We just need to secure 2 outside guys.
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I’d go the cheaper route and look at guys like James Bradberry, Logan Ryan, Prince Amukamara, and Trae Waynes. Sign one of these guys and draft someone in the 2nd or 3rd round. We need to spend on the lines.
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Originally posted by TheAsianPA View PostBoth Dawson and Bausby showed potential to be CB3's. Yiadom needs to be gone. With Harris leaving we will need a vet CB, and Callahan may not be healthy enough. Slay or Jones are a big must if we want to have a strong defense still
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Originally posted by beastlyskronk View PostOn the subject of trades, I wouldn’t write off Duke Dawson. Last year was his first real playing time and he was learning a new system on the fly. He may be a pleasant surprise for the team this season. While he wasn’t particularly great at forcing incompletions, most of his receptions were for short gains. 24 Targets, 17 receptions for 152 yards at 8.9 ypc.
And in that same mold I think we should look at making a similar move with the Eagles/Packers for Sidney Jones or Josh Jackson. 2 very young talented CBs who haven’t produced well for various reasons.
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On the subject of trades, I wouldn’t write off Duke Dawson. Last year was his first real playing time and he was learning a new system on the fly. He may be a pleasant surprise for the team this season. While he wasn’t particularly great at forcing incompletions, most of his receptions were for short gains. 24 Targets, 17 receptions for 152 yards at 8.9 ypc.
And in that same mold I think we should look at making a similar move with the Eagles/Packers for Sidney Jones or Josh Jackson. 2 very young talented CBs who haven’t produced well for various reasons.Last edited by beastlyskronk; 02-18-2020, 02:30 PM.
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Originally posted by underrated29 View PostWe do not have to but we likely will. I expect elway to go heavy on Denfense in FA and offense heavy in the draft. Either way, we know we have looked at Slay, Jones is a top target of ours and we have inquired about diggs.
Last year or was it the year prior? Cant rememebr but we went hard for CJ mosley, Amos, Colias, all while having no cap.
We landed Talib, Welker, Demarcus Ware, Tj Ward, and a few others all with 30 mil cap space. We have more than double that.
We also need to remember we are not going to keep all of our like 12 picks. We do not have room for that many on the roster either. We will be burning several of those to trade up and to trade for players.
Also keep in mind elway likes to fill holes on the team in FA so that he is not forced to draft that position. Expect us to sign a fair few players. He will be active.
PS- (not to you in general) Callahan is a stud. Sucks he couldnt play for us but Chubb only played like 2 more games than he did for us. We are all excited to have Chubb back. Callahan is really really really good. Really good!! We just need to secure 2 outside guys.
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Originally posted by johnlimburg View PostIt depends on the approach by the front office. We actually don't have to spend much money at all to reach the cap floor. So, if Elway want's to try to draft and develop young guys by giving them playing time, and avoid giving out bloated contracts to under performing players, see his last several years of free agency, he might not go on this spending spree fans want him to. I think the return of Simmons, signing the draft class, adding one top level free agent, and 2 or 3 middle tier guys is what we should do.
Fangio gave young guys playing time last year, and we had a couple unlikely guys emerge, I want to continue that trend and try to do things differently to the past few years. The Elway approach for several years of thinking he can slap band-aid free agent solutions onto problem areas of the team has netted us back to back to back losing seasons, the worse run of losing seasons since the 70's. Change the approach, add another good draft class, and develop those players with playing time, that is the best way to do it.
Last year or was it the year prior? Cant rememebr but we went hard for CJ mosley, Amos, Colias, all while having no cap.
We landed Talib, Welker, Demarcus Ware, Tj Ward, and a few others all with 30 mil cap space. We have more than double that.
We also need to remember we are not going to keep all of our like 12 picks. We do not have room for that many on the roster either. We will be burning several of those to trade up and to trade for players.
Also keep in mind elway likes to fill holes on the team in FA so that he is not forced to draft that position. Expect us to sign a fair few players. He will be active.
PS- (not to you in general) Callahan is a stud. Sucks he couldnt play for us but Chubb only played like 2 more games than he did for us. We are all excited to have Chubb back. Callahan is really really really good. Really good!! We just need to secure 2 outside guys.
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Originally posted by johnlimburg View PostIt depends on the approach by the front office. We actually don't have to spend much money at all to reach the cap floor. So, if Elway want's to try to draft and develop young guys by giving them playing time, and avoid giving out bloated contracts to under performing players, see his last several years of free agency, he might not go on this spending spree fans want him to. I think the return of Simmons, signing the draft class, adding one top level free agent, and 2 or 3 middle tier guys is what we should do.
Fangio gave young guys playing time last year, and we had a couple unlikely guys emerge, I want to continue that trend and try to do things differently to the past few years. The Elway approach for several years of thinking he can slap band-aid free agent solutions onto problem areas of the team has netted us back to back to back losing seasons, the worse run of losing seasons since the 70's. Change the approach, add another good draft class, and develop those players with playing time, that is the best way to do it.
I think boom or bust in free agency is the best way to go for us in that we should sign Byron Jones or go to the bargain bin of free agency while planning to bolster that position through the draft, no in between guys like Trae Waynes, Jimmy Smith (very good CB but very injury prone and will be 32) or even Xavier Rhodes who will get paid more than he should off past reputation.
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Originally posted by underrated29 View PostWe have enough money to do both, all 3, and then we still will enough to do even more. Simmons will be tagged. That is a given, he is not going anywhere.
Fangio gave young guys playing time last year, and we had a couple unlikely guys emerge, I want to continue that trend and try to do things differently to the past few years. The Elway approach for several years of thinking he can slap band-aid free agent solutions onto problem areas of the team has netted us back to back to back losing seasons, the worse run of losing seasons since the 70's. Change the approach, add another good draft class, and develop those players with playing time, that is the best way to do it.
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Originally posted by underrated29 View PostWe have enough money to do both, all 3, and then we still will enough to do even more. Simmons will be tagged. That is a given, he is not going anywhere.
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Originally posted by Gbt31 View PostDiggs yes...Slay no. I would rather use that money on signing Simmons back.
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Diggs yes...Slay no. I would rather use that money on signing Simmons back.
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Originally posted by JvDub95 View PostI agree, a 3rd would be all I would want to give though. I would like to give a 3rd for Slay, a 3rd for Stephon Diggs and still have a 3rd in my back pocket.
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