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Who would you bring in at QB during the offseason, and why?
He's young, He's mobile, accurate, he could be the back up for our Starter.
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And he should be long gone by pick the #4 overall pick in this draft. He would have to be awful at the combine and pro day to last until our #9 pick. I am not against trading for him, I just don't think Denver will. Right now the only thing I see that Zach Wilson hasn't done better than Lock is start NFL games.
Seriously? Honestly? What exactly tells you the team is improving? Certainly not its record over the past few years. The staff? A HC with a record that rivals Vance Joseph and a garbage OC. Please.
The defensive secondary is pretty much broken, the LB position lacks an LB that can cover, the D-line has one edge rusher that's been injured off and on since being acquired as #5, the other edge (LB) is on the downside of his career and coming off a season he didn't play because of injury, and the interior is mediocre. On the offense, you have a center that gets blown off the ball, a hole at RT, one RB who's ok but likely facing a few games suspension, a second RB that's broken half of the time and limited in skills, and young TE's/WR's where there's injuries and an inability to block. Oh, let's not forget the worst QB in the league, with no signs of a franchise/HOF QB in sight.
This team shows promise? Talk about drinking the orange kool-aid.
I'll take a shot. Yes, W/L records are important. However they don't tell the entire story when it comes to either handicapping or scouting NFL teams. Our D was missing 8 projected starters and we were playing CBs 7-8-9 at the end of the year. We not only had a lot of injuries, we also had cluster injuries.
Despite all these injuries, our D was still pretty decent and we were #1 in Red Zone D. And this ties in with Fangio's D of KC. He didn't let them score quickly and let Kelsey catch underneath passes. Then when they got to the Red Zone, all that speed KC had was negated.
The truth is, Fangio has only enhanced his reputation around the NFL after this season with pretty much everyone...except with Bronco fans.
Our Defense has had some good moments this year, and it has some bad ones as well. Overall we stayed in most of the games this year.
A few critical mistakes in all 3 phases cost us a few games. If we can correct those mistakes we will be okay. Good things take time and when we decided to rebuild, we have to take our lumps for a couple years. We have a lot of good young talent, and we have a good experienced coaching staff . I think next year things will be better!
Disappointed to hear that they were willing to invest so much to try and lure a losing veteran quarterback who has proven he is not the guy to overcome the short comings of the roster around him. I know it didn't happen so it's a pointless conversation, but it indicates to me that the biggest mistake Elway made over the last few years which led to him having to step aside, mistakenly thinking we were just decent quarterback play away from competing, has been either passed on to or also believed by the new guy. We are not right there, and the idea that a guy like Stafford who couldn't do anything with a bad roster in Detroit, also 5-11 last year, could do anything with a bad roster here is delusional. Our issues are deeper than just the quarterback position, and I hope the bandaid veteran quarterback fix is not the priority this off-season, that guy isn't out there.
Some people on the board like to Whinge about John Elway, when In fact he has done great things in Denver!!!!
I think we have things set up for the future with lots of young talent acquired in the last few drafts.
( Now the team just needs to get it all together, and learn how to win NFL games as a team.)
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I saw people on this board whinging the year we won the Super Bowl. Even after we won the Super Bowl there were people like "well if we did what I wanted it would have been easier"
To some Elway will never be good enough.
All I know is we have done better with Elway than most other franchises. We do not have the Patriots creds but there are a lot of teams who would gladly trade Elway's 10 years with their 10 years. Shoot a lot of those teams NEVER won a Super Bowl...they would probably take 4 losing seasons...1 Super Bowl...than 5 more losing seasons.
I saw people on this board whinging the year we won the Super Bowl. Even after we won the Super Bowl there were people like "well if we did what I wanted it would have been easier"
To some Elway will never be good enough.
All I know is we have done better with Elway than most other franchises. We do not have the Patriots creds but there are a lot of teams who would gladly trade Elway's 10 years with their 10 years. Shoot a lot of those teams NEVER won a Super Bowl...they would probably take 4 losing seasons...1 Super Bowl...than 5 more losing seasons.
Some folks tend to get hysterical. I think it's called "John Elway derangement syndrome"
I'll take a shot. Yes, W/L records are important. However they don't tell the entire story when it comes to either handicapping or scouting NFL teams. Our D was missing 8 projected starters and we were playing CBs 7-8-9 at the end of the year. We not only had a lot of injuries, we also had cluster injuries.
Despite all these injuries, our D was still pretty decent and we were #1 in Red Zone D. And this ties in with Fangio's D of KC. He didn't let them score quickly and let Kelsey catch underneath passes. Then when they got to the Red Zone, all that speed KC had was negated.
The truth is, Fangio has only enhanced his reputation around the NFL after this season with pretty much everyone...except with Bronco fans.
I'll argue as a defensive coordinator he has, but not as a head coach. I've read criticism about his head coaching from sources outside of the Broncos circles. Also, that red zone D doesn't mean much unless it translates to holding an offense in total points scored. Broncos weren't the best in points scored against. Also, the defense was one of the worst in take-aways, which really hurts this team because the offense was so good in losing the ball.
Overall performance has not been good, and considering the shifts in personnel, I'm not seeing a huge upswing for the team. It's not just about a stat here or there, anyway. To me, it's about overall team projection. W-L's mean everything.
I saw people on this board whinging the year we won the Super Bowl. Even after we won the Super Bowl there were people like "well if we did what I wanted it would have been easier"
Hmmmm that sounds made up. Or maybe one lunatic did and you have connected that now to a whole group of people who did not exist.
I saw people on this board whinging the year we won the Super Bowl. Even after we won the Super Bowl there were people like "well if we did what I wanted it would have been easier"
To some Elway will never be good enough.
All I know is we have done better with Elway than most other franchises. We do not have the Patriots creds but there are a lot of teams who would gladly trade Elway's 10 years with their 10 years. Shoot a lot of those teams NEVER won a Super Bowl...they would probably take 4 losing seasons...1 Super Bowl...than 5 more losing seasons.
Hmmmm that sounds made up. Or maybe one lunatic did and you have connected that now to a whole group of people who did not exist.
I'd agreed but there are a lot of looney fans who do think that way. Hell if we grabbed Watson and won a Super Bowl this year, it wouldn't surprise me if someone says "was it worth giving up the future?" or "I wish we did this with someone else." There are some weird fans in sports.
I'd agreed but there are a lot of looney fans who do think that way. Hell if we grabbed Watson and won a Super Bowl this year, it wouldn't surprise me if someone says "was it worth giving up the future?" or "I wish we did this with someone else." There are some weird fans in sports.
Those opinions all cool too. The Broncos welcome all kinds of fans as long as we all follow the forums rules.
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