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  • armedequation
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    Originally posted by Locutus View Post

    HC always gets who he picks. How do you think we ended up with Schurmur. The only exception is when they hire a rookie HC.
    This may help:

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.si....-behind-scenes

    key parts of the article:

    " You’d better come prepared—with a full list of your proposed staff, and detailed ideas about the roster and how you’d use it—when you enter the interview room looking for an NFL head coaching job "

    "Structure is obviously a discussion point in interviews, often depending on the leverage of the candidate. For someone in high demand, a team might be more deferential in terms of structure and control over the roster. For a first-time head coach, there is little to no leverage on his part to have any control with roster construction; that is the general manager and player personnel role. "

    and the main point:

    Another important discussion point is staffing. Every coach comes (or should come) prepared with a full staff in mind, from coordinators all the way down to conditioning and strength coaches. And the team may state a strong preference or suggestion to keep a certain coach or coaches from the previous staff. When we interviewed Mike Sherman, an unknown tight ends coach from the Seattle Seahawks, for the Packers head coach position in 2001, he had a full coaching staff prepared, with complete biographies and resumes of each coordinator and position coach.
    Last edited by armedequation; 01-04-2022, 04:26 AM.

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  • Locutus
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    Originally posted by broncolee View Post

    Again, the GM negotiates the contracts. He has to agree to what the head coach wants. Most of the time it works out in the coach’s favor, but it’s not guaranteed.
    HC always gets who he picks. How do you think we ended up with Schurmur. The only exception is when they hire a rookie HC.

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  • broncolee
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    Originally posted by Locutus View Post

    HC always choose their own staff. Especially coordinators. There may be a few lower end staff that the GM may want on his staff but OC/DC or any significant coaching position will be picked by the HC.
    Again, the GM negotiates the contracts. He has to agree to what the head coach wants. Most of the time it works out in the coach’s favor, but it’s not guaranteed.

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  • Locutus
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    Originally posted by broncolee View Post

    The GM is the one who ultimately chooses because he’s the one negotiating the contracts.
    HC always choose their own staff. Especially coordinators. There may be a few lower end staff that the GM may want on his staff but OC/DC or any significant coaching position will be picked by the HC.

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  • armedequation
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    Originally posted by broncolee View Post

    The GM is the one who ultimately chooses because he’s the one negotiating the contracts.
    Right...this isnt something thats not discussed when hiring a head coach

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  • broncolee
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    Originally posted by Locutus View Post

    Not to the extent that the GM is the one choosing.
    The GM is the one who ultimately chooses because he’s the one negotiating the contracts.

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  • Locutus
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    Originally posted by armedequation View Post

    One would think that that would be part of the interview process that happens between the gm and potential head coaches on who the head coach wants to bring in
    Not to the extent that the GM is the one choosing.

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  • armedequation
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    Originally posted by Locutus View Post
    Vet out the next HC. HC will usually vet out their own staff
    One would think that that would be part of the interview process that happens between the gm and potential head coaches on who the head coach wants to bring in

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  • Locutus
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    Originally posted by armedequation View Post
    It will be up to the broncos and paton to vet out the next coaching staff. Unfortunately we dont get much insight into a coaches offense or defensive gameplans.
    Vet out the next HC. HC will usually vet out their own staff

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  • armedequation
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    It will be up to the broncos and paton to vet out the next coaching staff. Unfortunately we dont get much insight into a coaches offense or defensive gameplans.

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  • Locutus
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    Originally posted by broncolee View Post

    Zac Taylor got the HC job because he had a cup of coffee with Sean McVay. I would be suspicious of any coordinator that works for an offensive head coach. How much of any success is actually because the guy with the OC title knows what he’s doing?
    I guess we should see who’s had a cup of tea with Sean McVay and hire him as our next HC. Last I checked the Cincinnati Bengals went from perennial loser to Super Bowl contenders winning the AFC North. Brian Callahan has a very good coaching pedigree. It would not surprise me if he knew the WCO Offense better & was more of the engine behind Bengals offensive success than Zac Taylor.

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  • broncolee
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    Originally posted by Locutus View Post
    Someone to look out for, a young offensive mind and who’s currently the OC for the Cincinnati Bengals.. Brian Callahan. His father who we all know is Bill Callahan, so he has a good coaching pedigree. Brian Callahan was also with the Broncos in 2010-2014/15 coaching staff.
    Zac Taylor got the HC job because he had a cup of coffee with Sean McVay. I would be suspicious of any coordinator that works for an offensive head coach. How much of any success is actually because the guy with the OC title knows what he’s doing?

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  • CanDB
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    Originally posted by Locutus View Post
    I’m sorry but it’s more likely Lock will be made starter than the team moving on.
    You don't have to be sorry.....

    But are we "backup" to this again?

    Last edited by CanDB; 01-03-2022, 04:14 PM.

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  • Locutus
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    Someone to look out for, a young offensive mind and who’s currently the OC for the Cincinnati Bengals.. Brian Callahan. His father who we all know is Bill Callahan, so he has a good coaching pedigree. Brian Callahan was also with the Broncos in 2010-2014/15 coaching staff.

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  • Locutus
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    Originally posted by CanDB View Post
    Once we acquire a new HC and OC (because you want to start fresh with folks who can get along and make it work), the QB selection process begins. Any new HC wants to know what he is getting into, especially at that position. They usually want a guy they like in terms of fit and even personality. To the Lock supporters, I am not sure a new coach with aspirations will want him as more than a backup. Since his rookie season, of 5 games, he has not shown much progress. He has taken a larger role of late in 3 straight games, and did not win any of them, nor did he produce much in the way of scoring. Dropped balls, bad play design, covid, do not make you immune to be assessed on what you did (or did not do). Even his demeanor during games may not be appealing to a certain type of coach, or how his teammates respond to him. I could be wrong, but I believe the new guy, along with Paton, will be into rocket speed in terms of assessing who is out there, and who is draftable.

    And yes, it's a multiple plan....with priorities in each category. I suggest 1) top level - Rodgers/Wilson types, 2) mid level - good QBs that may be available via trade, but are higher level than the Keenums/Flaccos/Bridgewaters 3) Draft level - including various package proposals to move up if necessary.

    The QB situation is the most obvious player issue. Time to resolve it.
    I’m sorry but it’s more likely Lock will be made starter than the team moving on.

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