CHARGERS ARE DONE! And here's why...

[Boltheads]

Dead enough...to either miss the playoffs or lose in the playoffs. And if you try to argue this statement, remember your own quote earlier in this thread...

"SD will continue to own the AFCW and make the playoffs and contend for a SB as long as Rivers is QB."

And you wonder why nobody wants to debate your OP? It's garbage like your statement above - which covers 31 out of 32 teams.

[Beagle]

Dielman was in the probowl and Hardwick missed to many games to make the probowl and Mcneil is a 3 time probowler. SD's o-line in pass blocking is very very good. Especially when healthy, elite unit.

Which center in your deluded mind do you think Hardwick is going to supplant in the probowl if injury free ? Nick Mangold, N.Y. Jets not only the probowl but the concensus all pro center or Kevin Mawae, Tennessee perenial probowl and former all-pro center? McNeil made the probowl twice not 3 times. Rookie year and second year which everyone knows wasn't even deserved. Your Oline is a problem from what I have read the chargers are even looking to replace your RT Clary. elite if healthy..rofls the only thing keeping Rivers on his feet is play action and a scary screen game. Oline and dline are a problem for the Chargers I'm not sure which is w a worse problem but I am sure they will address them as soon as they get a rb.

[mct1967]

And you wonder why nobody wants to debate your OP? It's garbage like your statement above - which covers 31 out of 32 teams.

If my OP was garbage, you'd be more specific and challenge the points I made. You can't challenge my points because you and other Charger fans know what I wrote are all facts. Keep living in your fairy-tale land, like Rod does.

[mct1967]

Peyton Manning? Brett Favre?

Those guys are exceptions and not the rule. Every NFL starter--on average--has to deal with a serious injury every few years in the league and miss games. Wait and watch...Peyton, Favre, Eli and the others who have remained injury-free will eventually be bitten by the injury-bug and miss games.

[Boltheads]

If my OP was garbage, you'd be more specific and challenge the points I made. You can't challenge my points because you and other Charger fans know what I wrote are all facts. Keep living in your fairy-tale land, like Rod does.

Okay, just to entertain you, I'll take just ONE SINGLE sentence from your page of rubish to prove my point.

"With their inability to win in the playoffs in recent years, the Chargers as a team are also losing confidence in themselves."

The first half of this sentence is false. The Chargers are 3-3 in the playoffs over the past 3 years under Turner. They may not have been able to win a SB in that time span, but to say they've been unable to win in the playoffs is just plain ignorant.

The second half of your sentence is just an opinion, not a fact. Why would I spend time trying to disprove what you believe? Your OP is filled with more opinion, than facts. That's why nobody is discussing it.

[Beagle]

Okay, just to entertain you, I'll take just ONE SINGLE sentence from your page of rubish to prove my point.

"With their inability to win in the playoffs in recent years, the Chargers as a team are also losing confidence in themselves."

The first half of this sentence is false. The Chargers are 3-3 in the playoffs over the past 3 years under Turner. They may not have been able to win a SB in that time span, but to say they've been unable to win in the playoffs is just plain ignorant.

The second half of your sentence is just an opinion, not a fact. Why would I spend time trying to disprove what you believe? Your OP is filled with more opinion, than facts. That's why nobody is discussing it.

and you have never been guilty of that yourself at all...

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post...t-in-san-diego

Any of the backs on this list - rookies included - will have a better year than Moreno. I don't understand why so many Bronco fans love this guy. He has no explosion through the hole, he falls way too often with minimal contact (or none at all), he's average at best out of the backfield, and he's a liability against the blitz.

He carried the ball 250 times and couldn't break 1,000 yards?

pot meet kettle. the only thing that was a fact was he didn't have a 1000 yards the rest is speculation,opinion and crap.

[Boltheads]

and you have never been guilty of that yourself at all...

pot meet kettle. the only thing that was a fact was he didn't have a 1000 yards the rest is speculation,opinion and crap.

Guilty of what? Opinion? Heck, here's how my responses breakdown.....

50% - Opinion
20% - Rants
10% - Clueless
10% - Drunk
5% - Wrong Forum
5% - Wife or Teenage daughter pretending to be me

The difference between me and said tool is that I don't try and persude people to respond to my lame posts.

[ChargersDivison]

Which center in your deluded mind do you think Hardwick is going to supplant in the probowl if injury free ? Nick Mangold, N.Y. Jets not only the probowl but the concensus all pro center or Kevin Mawae, Tennessee perenial probowl and former all-pro center? McNeil made the probowl twice not 3 times. Rookie year and second year which everyone knows wasn't even deserved. Your Oline is a problem from what I have read the chargers are even looking to replace your RT Clary. elite if healthy..rofls the only thing keeping Rivers on his feet is play action and a scary screen game. Oline and dline are a problem for the Chargers I'm not sure which is w a worse problem but I am sure they will address them as soon as they get a rb.

The same center he supplanted when he made the probowl couple years ago. Mawae gets in more due to name recognition and is at the end of his career and made it due to CJ having 2000 plus yds.

Mcneil made it in 06, 07 and 08 and was a 2nd alternate in 09.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8053b226&template=without-video&confirm=true

Look at the far right.

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol

Top 5 in pass blocking and that was missing Hardwick, with a rookie RG and multiple players rotated at OC, RG and RT.

When Healthy SD is a top 3 pass blocking o-line and capable of being top 5 overall.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/10851305

Had us ranked #2. Sure it was back in 08.

RT is our 1 weak spot.

D-line was only weak due to injury, AGAIN! 4 NT's on IR and constant rotation on the entire d-line due to injury. SD does need a new RDE, unless Vance Martin is ready to be that or with Jamal healthy, Nwagbuo can take over the RDE spot.

[BigDaddyBronco]

Decisions that make or break championships

What I don't understand is the blind loyalty Charger Nation has for its GM AJ Smith. He made a decision 2 years ago that very well could have cost SD a Championship. The same type of hard decision that the Patriots make all the time. Which is why they continue to be in the mix every year.

They had the option of trading Tomlinson 2 years ago and keeping M. Turner... Instead they lost both and received nothing in return for either. When you have a player like Richard Seymore who is about to UFA you have options and those options are sign him, trade him or let him walk... For all circumstances there are reasons to at times to do any of the three options... I said this at the time they were letting Turner walk that it was a huge mistake with LT on the decline to do that... They could have easily got a 2nd rounder for LT... Hell maybe even a 1st rounder or another player in a trade. But AJ wasn't brave enough to pull the trigger. Those extra picks could be spent on other positions of need while still having Turner in the backfield. A huge mistake and one that will eventually be pointed out as we watch the Chargers ramp up for another run.

The Chargers are a very good team with a very good QB they will always be competitive as long as Rivers is there... But there have been better QB's that have not won a superbowl... Its decisions like the one above that can make or break a title run. Decisions like trading a first round pick (in one of the most talented draft classes in years) for a back up corner like McDaniels did last year that go under the radar but in a league of equality its the little decisions that add up to championships...

The Chargers aren't done. They are just getting started at piling up good regular seasons records with 2nd round exits... Miami Dolphins of the 80's and 90's anyone?

[jhildebrand]

Bla bla bla. Bla bla bla. Talking out of the side of my face. Bla bla bla

ROD: This one's for you!!

[Superbronk]

LT Sproles and Rivers, OH MY

almost all of them are gone, they had their chance for SB Glory and woosh it is gone, the offense half the NFL Dreams of, We might be able to crush the Chargers next year, depends on who we and they, draft, team i repeat team

[BroncoSexyDaddy]

Sproles got tendered today a 1st and 3rd round tender.It looks like he is staying in San Diego next season.A little cat and mouse game they are playing with the league and Sproles.

[Boltheads]

almost all of them are gone, they had their chance for SB Glory and woosh it is gone, the offense half the NFL Dreams of, We might be able to crush the Chargers next year, depends on who we and they, draft, team i repeat team

We lost two of our most ineffective players - LT and Jamaal Williams. Their replacements should be better. Yet, your team that self-distructed (again) at the end of the season "might be able to CRUSH the Chargers next season"? Oakland and KC ran all over your old, tired, under-sized defense to end the year.

Somebody's got a case of the Rockie Mountain Highs

[SLVR and Black]

Sproles got tendered today a 1st and 3rd round tender.It looks like he is staying in San Diego next season.A little cat and mouse game they are playing with the league and Sproles.

They tagged him last year, and now they tender him with first and a third? The Chargers either really, really want to keep him or they're incredibly desperate, he's going to be pretty darn expensive to keep. Makes me wonder how Sproles feels about things.

[mct1967]

Dec. '10....Most of my '10 Springtime predictions came true regarding the Chargers. Now I get to gloat.

In Sept. on Yahoo I argued with a bunch of Chargers fans and predicted that the Chargers would not win the division in '10 and not make the playoffs. I was right again. However I will admit I didn't see the Broncos collapse and rise of the Cheifs.

But now I can add some tidbits of how overrated and pathetic the Chargers are...

1. How can a team be in the top-5 in offense and defense and not make the playoffs? Only the Chargers can be ranked that high and figure out how to miss the playoffs--PATHETIC!

2. Chargers have been picked over and over and over all year long to win the AFC-West and go on the same win streak they did last year. Last years' team and this years' Chargers are vastly different. Many players of the '06-'09 teams are gone. How these pundits can think a team with different players will play the same as previous years' players is absurd. I hope the media will now finally get off the Chargers bandwagon. The Chargers have some talent, but don't know how to win when it counts--PATHETIC!

3. How can the Chargers beat the Colts, then lose to the Raiders twice and lose to the Bengals?!! PATHETIC!

4. How can a top-5 ranked O and D team lose so many games on the road--PATHETIC!

5. And for A.J.---This guy never ceases to amaze me with how childish and insulting he is with his own players. He's pretty cheap too...doesn't want to pay for talent, so when a couple key Chargers hold out for more money, he gets his petty revenge by screwing with their contracts. Those players will soon be gone, just like the other good ex-Chargers prospering with other
teams--PATHETIC!

The Chargers will never win a Super Bowl as long as AJ is their GM.