Brady Quinn >>>> Philip Rivers

[SLVR and Black]

Skill and talent is not measured by rings. Success is, learn the difference.

And, in the NFL, success is measured by rings. Seriously ROD, you're making this way, way too easy.

[Boltz17]

And, in the NFL, success is measured by rings. Seriously ROD, you're making this way, way too easy.

Jim Kelly Failure, Dan Marino Failure, Barry Sanders Failure, Bruce Smith Failure, Eric ****erson Failure, Fran Tarkenton Failure, **** Butkus Failure, Merlin Olson Failure, Deacon Jones Failure, Warren Moon Failure, Anthony Munoz Failure, Earl Campbell Failure, Chris Carter Failure, Dan Fouts Failure.......................

[Boltheads]

Jim Kelly Failure, Dan Marino Failure, Barry Sanders Failure, Bruce Smith Failure, Eric ****erson Failure, Fran Tarkenton Failure, **** Butkus Failure, Merlin Olson Failure, Deacon Jones Failure, Warren Moon Failure, Anthony Munoz Failure, Earl Campbell Failure, Chris Carter Failure, Dan Fouts Failure.......................

I don't think S_N_B is saying players without rings are "failures". For me at least, success in this league is both. Right or wrong, players are defined by winning Championships. We all know that Rivers is a better QB than Big Ben or Lil' Manning. But, they both have not only been to the Big Game, but they won it. That's it. Rivers can throw for 100,000 yards and it won't mean jack......unless he wins a ring.

[SLVR and Black]

I don't think S_N_B is saying players without rings are "failures". For me at least, success in this league is both. Right or wrong, players are defined by winning Championships. We all know that Rivers is a better QB than Big Ben or Lil' Manning. But, they both have not only been to the Big Game, but they won it. That's it. Rivers can throw for 100,000 yards and it won't mean jack......unless he wins a ring.

It's sad, but true. I'm sure that Rivers can go down as the greatest QB ever, but without the ring, he'll never be completely satisfied with what he's accomplished.

[Boltheads]

no when and if my team is labeled as a true contender i expect them to prove it..and not be satisfied with simply winning the weak division

surely your not satisfied with being the pre season concencus afc superbowl fav..and watching another team play the game..i mean since 2004 you have been the early fav...five seasons!!! with two of those seasons ending as the #1-#2 team and homefield advantage

and still sat home like the rest of us while another team represented the afc

What part of "definitely not satisfied" didn't you get. I am not happy to flame out in the playoffs year in and year out.

But, if you think for one moment that all teams sit at home "like the rest of us".....you're nothing more than a homer. We all know that some teams get eliminated in the playoffs and need a tweak or two. Other teams missed the playoffs because they have major flaws.....like finishing the season 2-8.

Think about it.

[Alcaeus15]

It's sad, but true. I'm sure that Rivers can go down as the greatest QB ever, but without the ring, he'll never be completely satisfied with what he's accomplished.

I think Dan Marino agrees

[SLVR and Black]

I think Dan Marino agrees

As much as I disliked Elway, I was really glad to see him go out the way that he did. He was a great QB, his leaving the game without a ring or two just didn't seem right.

Hehe, Bubby Brister.

[baphamet]

Jim Kelly Failure, Dan Marino Failure, Barry Sanders Failure, Bruce Smith Failure, Eric ****erson Failure, Fran Tarkenton Failure, **** Butkus Failure, Merlin Olson Failure, Deacon Jones Failure, Warren Moon Failure, Anthony Munoz Failure, Earl Campbell Failure, Chris Carter Failure, Dan Fouts Failure.......................

don't forget denvers newly voted HOF'er floyd little......failure

[jazzbodog]

that he is better than what you got and ever had since elway retired? don't cry about it, i was just staying on topic.

by the way, rivers is far closer to those guys you mentioned than orton/quinn is to rivers. in fact, most people would put rivers in the top 5 along with those guys.

Umm...let's see...umm...well...umm...soooooooo what!

[jazzbodog]

your san diego team reminds me of the movie groundhog's day. instead of the same thing every day its the same thing every year. how do u have so much talent but yet choke when victory is needed. get one ring then talk. a superbowl win is what a player wants and needs to be a true legend. at least we are the chosen few who have back to back superbowls. just like when the slower manning was drafted by SD he said, "trade me".....hahahaha....

So true. The Chargers are TOAST. They had their opportunities and didn't cash in because they're losers...not winners. Back to the bottom of the AFC West...where they belong...just like old times.

[jazzbodog]

Despite the fact I don't like this guy, he's right. Peyton manning was what, drafted in 98? And he is still kicking.
And Rivers was ..........2004?
Hehe, unless our D knows how to stop him, he will be plaguing us for a while.

Plaguing us! No he won't.

[jazzbodog]

It's sad, but true. I'm sure that Rivers can go down as the greatest QB ever, but without the ring, he'll never be completely satisfied with what he's accomplished.

Please. Rivers would need to win 10 superbowls and throw for 5 td's and rush for 5 td's in each one of them to go down in history as the greatest QB and it still wouldnt happen because he's not cool...he's a total dork!