Another sign AJ Smith just isn't a good GM

[kishzilla]

Saw this on yahoo FF player notes:

New player notes Mon, Sep 6

Trade talks between the Chargers and an unnamed team are reportedly at an impasse after the two sides could not agree on compensation in terms of draft picks and/or players in return for Jackson (suspension), ESPN.com reports.

Recommendation: The report adds that the interested team had agreed to terms on a contract with Jackson Saturday after the team was given permission by San Diego to talk to Jackson, but now that his Roster Exempt status has kicked in, he can't play for the first six games of the season, which presumably lowers his trade value. In any case, assuming the report is accurate, there is apparently some trade interest in Jackson, but it looks like the Chargers will need to lower their demands for anything to happen on that front.
(Rotowire.com)

So now, not only has he failed to get his #1 receiver a contract everyone can live with, (which is his job, if keeping him was ever the goal) but he has also screwed the Chargers out of getting as much as they can out of a trade by placing him on roster exempt status and then waiting beyond the deadline

What the hell is this guy's deal?

Excellent gauge of talent, piss poor management.

[Foez]

Saw this on yahoo FF player notes:



So now, not only has he failed to get his #1 receiver a contract everyone can live with, (which is his job, if keeping him was ever the goal) but he has also screwed the Chargers out of getting as much as they can out of a trade by placing him on roster exempt status and then waiting beyond the deadline

What the hell is this guy's deal?

Excellent gauge of talent, piss poor management.

I think I could even do a better job unloading the WR that said he might sit out he year

[ChargersDivison]

It's actually why he is the BEST in the business. He is setting a precedent. It's obvious he is going to keep VJ and if not will get king's ransom for him next year. Because the way things look, VJ will once again be restricted next year.


AJ knows what he's doing. Mcdaniels and Xanders, ehhh not so much so.

[kishzilla]

It's actually why he is the BEST in the business. He is setting a precedent. It's obvious he is going to keep VJ and if not will get king's ransom for him next year. Because the way things look, VJ will once again be restricted next year.


AJ knows what he's doing. Mcdaniels and Xanders, ehhh not so much so.

Except for the whole ugly part about the CBA. You think AJ is banking on an unknown to keep VJ around? Thats retarded. So keep him around for 2 years without a contract, pay him minimums, and make sure you piss him off as much as possible in the process. And also risk having him miss 2 years of prime playing time in the process (yeah, that will up his trade value ha ha ha.) Wouldn't be surprised if 'ole VJ turns back to the bottle for solace and catches another case. Yeah, sounds like a master plan to success.

If you truly believe this, you may be dumber than this:

[kishzilla]

And furthermore, A.J. may come across as being tough on players, but he also comes across as an ass-hat that would rather deprive his team just to stick it to Jackson. When the new CBA is agreed upon, Jackson will be an UFA. He's been playing long enough, and that's not going to change with a new CBA. The owners want to alter the revenue sharing percentage, make the regular season 18 games, and alter the rookie salary scheme before anything else. You really think the league is going to let ANY chance of coming to an agreement get flushed down the drain, (that gets them most of what they want) just to try and force a change in the time required to reach free agency as well?????

HA HA HA HA!

And dolt fans call US delusional, wishful-thinking homers.

So, in the meantime, Jackson and McNeil sit on the couch at home, getting fat and out of shape, while the Chargers get neither the production they would have brought, or anything in exchange for them in trade value, and every player in the league sees what A.J. is doing and takes note, to never play in S.D. because their GM is a jackass.

What free agent, with any kind of options, would sign with a team that would rather cut off it's nose just to spite it's face by not negotiating with it's pro-bowlers?

So if we consider what the ramifications are, then the Chargers are STILL beyond stupid if they're doing this to "take one for the team" (read the league/owners) because another team was happily and eagerly working against this supposed league goal by trying to trade for him in the first place!!!

WHEN WILL YOU WAKE UP AND SMELL WHAT A.J. IS DOING TO YOUR TEAM!

The words Cleavland and steamer come to mind

[ChargersDivison]

Except for the whole ugly part about the CBA. You think AJ is banking on an unknown to keep VJ around? Thats retarded. So keep him around for 2 years without a contract, pay him minimums, and make sure you piss him off as much as possible in the process. And also risk having him miss 2 years of prime playing time in the process (yeah, that will up his trade value ha ha ha.) Wouldn't be surprised if 'ole VJ turns back to the bottle for solace and catches another case. Yeah, sounds like a master plan to success.

If you truly believe this, you may be dumber than this:

Instead of assuming why don't you let the situation play out. AJ hasn't disappointed yet.

Every decision he has made in SD that has been a critical one has been the right one.

He's not going to miss 2 years. Unless there is not CBA renewal.

Xsanders and Mcdaniels blunders have played out already recently. AJ' not so much.

[ChargersDivison]

And furthermore, A.J. may come across as being tough on players, but he also comes across as an ass-hat that would rather deprive his team just to stick it to Jackson. When the new CBA is agreed upon, Jackson will be an UFA. He's been playing long enough, and that's not going to change with a new CBA. The owners want to alter the revenue sharing percentage, make the regular season 18 games, and alter the rookie salary scheme before anything else. You really think the league is going to let ANY chance of coming to an agreement get flushed down the drain, (that gets them most of what they want) just to try and force a change in the time required to reach free agency as well?????

HA HA HA HA!

And dolt fans call US delusional, wishful-thinking homers.

So, in the meantime, Jackson and McNeil sit on the couch at home, getting fat and out of shape, while the Chargers get neither the production they would have brought, or anything in exchange for them in trade value, and every player in the league sees what A.J. is doing and takes note, to never play in S.D. because their GM is a jackass.

What free agent, with any kind of options, would sign with a team that would rather cut off it's nose just to spite it's face by not negotiating with it's pro-bowlers?

So if we consider what the ramifications are, then the Chargers are STILL beyond stupid if they're doing this to "take one for the team" (read the league/owners) because another team was happily and eagerly working against this supposed league goal by trying to trade for him in the first place!!!

WHEN WILL YOU WAKE UP AND SMELL WHAT A.J. IS DOING TO YOUR TEAM!

The words Cleavland and steamer come to mind

First off this is the NFL. SD first off doesn't target any big name free agents and if they ever did, I assure you they wouldn't think twice about coming to play in SD and wouldn't think about different situations that don't relate to them.

AJ did resign Gates, Dielman, Rivers, etc, etc. He even extended LT when he was at the end of his career.

SD will have no problem attracting free agents at all. Again it is wishful delusional thinking on your end to think otherwise.

Second off, if VJ and Mcneil don't play the required amount of games to accrue credit for their last season, they will INFACT be RESTRICTED once again the following NFL season.

Third off, they showed VJ and how hard he is working and staying in shape. Stop drawing up some off the wall never before happened situations.

Let me give it a weak KISH "HA HA HA HA HA". When is the last time young probowlers in a hold out got fat and out of shape and their careers went down the drain??

Obviously AJ wants VJ and Mcneil in SD and has a ultimate plan for them and is not desperate to cave in to their terms nor should he. Employees don't make demands. Employers do.


What AJ is doing is continuing to build a young talented playoff SB contending team. How about over there in Den?? Running out all their young potential prospects for personal and non professional reasons, like a 16 yr old heart broken girl. But you see, FA's still sign with DEN regardless how big of a mess it is there. Because most of the time, the type of FA's who are available are at the end of their career and want to go to whoever wants them, where they get paid the best or a contender.

I'm not even remotely worried about AJ's decisions.

You however should be drastically worried about what's going on over there with some of the horrible decisions and very unprofessional conduct.

VJ and Mcneil butt hurt?? Not even close. They both still want to play in SD badly. They like the rest of the 1500 plus pro players know this is a BUSINESS. Well except in Den were Mcdaniels trades people who don't answer his call and are mean to him LMAO!

That's kinda embarrassing.

[Lyghts Out]

Really...why trade him? We arent in any dire nned to trade him. We want at least a Second rounder, as they will be compensated with a 3rd rounder if he leaves via FA later on...whats in it for us trading for a third round pick now? The article is just an angry spin from VJ and his Agent.....AJ is the man, and dont you EVER forget it. I guess to you, the meaning of a good GM is someone who caves in to pressure at the loss of their team?

[NFLfan..MLBzzzz]

Except for the whole ugly part about the CBA. You think AJ is banking on an unknown to keep VJ around? Thats retarded. So keep him around for 2 years without a contract, pay him minimums, and make sure you piss him off as much as possible in the process. And also risk having him miss 2 years of prime playing time in the process (yeah, that will up his trade value ha ha ha.) Wouldn't be surprised if 'ole VJ turns back to the bottle for solace and catches another case. Yeah, sounds like a master plan to success.

If you truly believe this, you may be dumber than this:

Please give us your "enlightened" plan of what they should do with him in order to get max value. It seems pretty obvious the Charger are in the drivers seat in this situation.

[Bolt4LifeSD]

Sorry I wouldn't take a 5th rounder either :thumb:

[kishzilla]

Please give us your "enlightened" plan of what they should do with him in order to get max value. It seems pretty obvious the Charger are in the drivers seat in this situation.

Too late for a plan. AJ slept on it and now you're boned.

Congratulations!

[kishzilla]

Instead of assuming why don't you let the situation play out. AJ hasn't disappointed yet.

Uh, you were the one ASSuming bud. You figured worst case scenario, there's going to be some magic FA pixie that's going to swoop down and sprinkle some restricted dust on VJ for next year if he doesn't get traded. The chances of VJ getting traded for MAX value at this point in time are ZERO. Nobody wants to pay the guy what he wants in the first place, let alone on top of the unreasonable pick trade and he's still going to be out 6 games.

Trust me, VJ wants out. He's shopping himself around to any two bit team that will look up his skirt.

Every decision he has made in SD that has been a critical one has been the right one.

You're right, keeping Turner would have been a detriment to the team. It was better to keep LT and watch him spiral the drain.

Lucky for LT he was able to get out of SD and hop on a jet to New York where they're serving up Geritol cocktails every hour on the hour.

He's not going to miss 2 years. Unless there is not CBA renewal.

He might as well miss this year, and like you said, let it play out, we may not have a CBA next year, and there are a lot of variables that could come to pass that will make waiting on this seem like a fatal mistake. Far more variables leaning in that direction than favorably. It's never better to let a wound fester, and thats exactly what VJ and McNeil are right now, festering sores on the cratered face of the Chargers organization.


Now I know why they keep Norvell around. He's the perfect mascot.

[BOLTMAN-1]

why is it the Broncos are constantly wishing doom on the Chargers?
are we really that good? are we really miles better than the Broncos?

[NFLfan..MLBzzzz]

Too late for a plan. AJ slept on it and now you're boned.

Congratulations!

If the Chargers are "boned" i'd hate to think what the Broncos are under the guidance of McGenious.

[darth-hideous]

If the Chargers are "boned" i'd hate to think what the Broncos are under the guidance of McGenious.

As a Chargers fan of course you hate to think what the Broncos are under McGenuis.I t means an end to your teams dominance of the AFC West, as short lived as it was.