Reggie Bush to loose his Heisman

[#1snake_fan]

I think this is retarted because no matter if Bush did take a home from USC that did not make him a better football player for the 2005 season.

Did Reggie lie about getting this home ... Yeah more then likely but again it doesn't make him a Heisman award winner so it shouldn't be taken away from him.

I am a USC fan being from California and I don't like the fact that they lied to the NCAA and now they've cost a good running back an award he earned.

I think it's laughable that the NCAA is wanting to bust USC for doing things illegaly but they turn a blind eye to the SEC and how they helped Florida so much last season.

Florida would have lost to LSU and Arkansas if it wernt for HORRIBLE calls late in the game to help the "Jesus" of football Tim Tebow

The BCS and NCAA is all a joke they play favorites with who they want to win so again my point is leave Reggie alone.

[TheQBGuru]

I think taking away things already won is ridiculous. Everybody knows Bush won that Heisman, taking it away after the fact doesn't change that.

The NCAA is a terrible organization though, I'm not surprised.

[Atwnbroncfan]

I think this is retarted because no matter if Bush did take a home from USC that did not make him a better football player for the 2005 season.

Did Reggie lie about getting this home ... Yeah more then likely but again it doesn't make him a Heisman award winner so it shouldn't be taken away from him.

I am a USC fan being from California and I don't like the fact that they lied to the NCAA and now they've cost a good running back an award he earned.

I think it's laughable that the NCAA is wanting to bust USC for doing things illegaly but they turn a blind eye to the SEC and how they helped Florida so much last season.

Florida would have lost to LSU and Arkansas if it wernt for HORRIBLE calls late in the game to help the "Jesus" of football Tim Tebow

The BCS and NCAA is all a joke they play favorites with who they want to win so again my point is leave Reggie alone.

Players aren't allowed to accept gifts or anything. Reggie did that he needs to accept the punishment. As for the sec, ncaa cant change bad calls after the fact. Bad calls are apart of the game, at all levels. Reggie broke a big rule in the ncaa. Its dumb to take it away this far down the road, but still he put himself at risk by taking these things.

[-Rod-]

I think he should keep it tight (NCAA sux)

[hardcorebronco]

He's going to loose his heisman?


He shoulda held on tighter!

[baphamet]

I think taking away things already won is ridiculous. Everybody knows Bush won that Heisman, taking it away after the fact doesn't change that.

The NCAA is a terrible organization though, I'm not surprised.

their argument is he disqualified himself that year by cheating thus he should not have won any awards.

how can you wipe away all the things he did that year but not the Heisman? i agree with them for taking it away.

that said, who cares? i am sure bush probably doesn't, he has a SB ring after all.

[Axemaster]

If OJ can keep his Hypseman, then anybody should be able too!

[baphamet]

I think this is retarted because no matter if Bush did take a home from USC that did not make him a better football player for the 2005 season.

Did Reggie lie about getting this home ... Yeah more then likely but again it doesn't make him a Heisman award winner so it shouldn't be taken away from him.

I am a USC fan being from California and I don't like the fact that they lied to the NCAA and now they've cost a good running back an award he earned.

I think it's laughable that the NCAA is wanting to bust USC for doing things illegaly but they turn a blind eye to the SEC and how they helped Florida so much last season.

Florida would have lost to LSU and Arkansas if it wernt for HORRIBLE calls late in the game to help the "Jesus" of football Tim Tebow

The BCS and NCAA is all a joke they play favorites with who they want to win so again my point is leave Reggie alone.

its taken away from him because accepting that gift made him ineligible to play that year after the fact.

by the way it isn't the NCAA doing this, its the Heisman Trophy trust. if you render yourself ineligible by excepting gifts and wipe away all the things you did that season, how can you keep the Heisman?

i understand what you are saying, he was still the best player that year but he should have not been allowed to play, that's the point.

[Joshecalpoly]

It was about the fact he violated the rules to get it and actually it says in the bylaws that it must be won with dignity and respect for the NCAA and its rules. He violated that and thus lost it. Still its stupid noone looked into this sooner and what are they going to do give it to the 2nd place winner.

Besides Bush has not even remotely resembled someone who earned his trophy but many heismans are the same way because they play on teams like USC where everyone their is the best on their team. Some do earn it and are busts. Tebow may be a bust but the guy certainly did not have the O-line that Leinhart and Bush had sometimes I wonder if they evaluate players properly in college at all.

[TheQBGuru]

Besides Bush has not even remotely resembled someone who earned his trophy

Ummm what? Bush had one of the greatest seasons ever for a RB with over 2500 yards from scrimmage while averaging 9.1 yards per attempt...

[Jer_ber73]

Ummm what? Bush had one of the greatest seasons ever for a RB with over 2500 yards from scrimmage while averaging 9.1 yards per attempt...

And the one game with 500+ all purpose yds. Bush was pretty decent that year. Bordering on mediocrity.

[Alastor]

I was talking to my mom about this tonight. She asked me what I thought. Bear in mind I only get to see what the media depicts. For all I know the kid was getting hookers and blow, but my understanding is that in addition to some really cool perks, primarily he was being offered a chance to take care of his family. Correct me if that's errant, but that's what information I have. With that in mind...

I said to my mother:

I think that Reggie Bush was a running back from the ghetto who had spent his entire life waiting for one chance to break free. He stayed off drugs. He stayed out of gangs. He stayed on the good side of the law. He stayed in school. He worked hard and stayed out of trouble in a place where there's almost nothing but trouble.

His dad had abandoned him and his family was poor. He stayed out of trouble and made good grades (3.8 in high school). His step-father and mother worked hard to raise him right and keep him level-headed. They were poor, and Reggie did what he was supposed to do. He worked hard, he studied hard, and he played hard.

The kid did NOT have an easy life, but he did it right anyway.

Then USC came for him. The next thing the kid knows, someone is offering him a nice house for his mom and step-dad to stay in. They've lived a life in poverty. Reggie didn't know if he'd get injured or not. Reggie didn't know if he'd get drafted or not. But after having a hard life he worked through honestly, someone was telling him he could provide for his entire family and treat them the way he felt they should be treated.

If I'm a poor kid, raised by my mom and step-father, my dad abandoned me, and I don't know what tomorrow brings but there's some dude over here offering to treat my mom the way she ought to have been treated all along for standing by me and providing for me all those years, you bet your ass I'm taking it.



But Reggie knew the risks.


I hope he stands up and says, "I had no choice. I had an opportunity to provide for my mom and my family who have worked so hard to do what was right for me. I broke the rules and I realize the damage that's been done."

"There are few opportunities for people that are poor in a big city. I took what I could get to take care of my family. I did so in violation of NCAA rules and I accept that they have no choice but to retract my scholarships and my trophies. That's the risk I took at the time and I knew the consequences. I made a choice."

"And I'd make it again."

"With regret, I respectfully return the Heisman trophy, and extend my sincerest apologies to the Trojan program."





Reggie made a choice. He knew the consequences of his choice.

In my opinion he made the right choice; a choice he should be proud of. He took the chance to take care of his family. He didn't know what tomorrow would bring and that opportunity was there. He chose to take care of his mom who had taken care of him all along.

I love my mom dearly and if I were in a similar position, I wouldn't hesitate to take it. I wouldn't care about the trophy or the records nearly as much as the chance to bring something good to her life that she deserved.

He should give back the Heisman and accept the situation because he did make a choice.

The right choice, and he should be proud of it.

Character is worth a Hell of a lot more than a trophy, and I don't mind a kid choosing to take care of his mom.

That's a good kid right there. He doesn't need a Heisman. It pales in comparison to his character.

[12and4]

he deserves it for burning us for 513 all purpose yards in 05... totally just smashed us... i almost cried that game... i probably woulda if it happened this year since i'm more attached to college football now that i actually attend fresno state...




on a real not, i like reggie, he's a great guy seemingly (as Al said, from what we can tell from the media) and I don't think he really gives a rats patooty about a heisman when he has the grandaddy of them all, a SB Ring...


"Here take the heisman, i've got one better"

[Bernie24]

It's not like he took pills or steroid injections that made him perform at a higher level. He still outplayed everyone that year BY FAR and should keep that Heisman for life.

[Cahill]

I understand that what he did off the field was against the rules but that doesn't change what he did on the field. He won that award based on his skill and the performances he had that season. The award isn't based on character, it's based on performance. Bush shouldn't lose the award in my opinion simply because he was the best college football player that year. They want to punish the players for taking benefits but they don't punish the people giving the benefits. They need to somehow find a way to punish the agents for talking to these players earlier than allowed.