Donkey Fans and the Wayback Machine.....

[baphamet]

Marty had 2 playoff games to prove himself(in the playoffs) and was fired.

How many times does Norv get? I'm assuming this last run is definitly strike one?

Or will a couple playoff wins every few years secure his coaching position for a long period of time?

do you honestly think he was fired just because of those playoff losses?

[Boltheads]

This thread is funny. Charger fans talking smack about Bronco fans by saying all we do is talk about the past, yet all I see Charger fans doing is predicting the future. I ask you this: What is sillier, pretending to know the future or remembering the past?

I would love to stay focused on the present. But, every time you start debating this year's teams, Donk fan quickly realizes there will be nothing but crow to eat at the end of the year.

[Boltheads]

do you honestly think he was fired just because of those playoff losses?

The dude knows very little about football besides what he reads on the General Discussion board.

[Freyaka]

do you honestly think he was fired just because of those playoff losses?

pretty much yea....why the hell else would you fire a coach that took you to 14-2 that same year? Marty had a stigma of being unable to win in the playoffs and being the idiots that the chargers staff are they jettisoned him because he hadn't won yet instead of leaving him in place with the staff he'd brought together and allowing him to continue to be a successful coach.


Your owner became blinded by the chance of a championship and got impatient (stupidly because I really think with the talent that was on the team at the time you'd have already won a superbowl by now had you not been so impatient and fired one of the best coaches in chargers history)

[DishWater]

do you honestly think he was fired just because of those playoff losses?

Yes.

You and your cohort cite this fact frequently.

[Boltheads]

pretty much yea....why the hell else would you fire a coach that took you to 14-2 that same year? Marty had a stigma of being unable to win in the playoffs and being the idiots that the chargers staff are they jettisoned him because he hadn't won yet instead of leaving him in place with the staff he'd brought together and allowing him to continue to be a successful coach.

This is your cue to exit this conversation - otherwise, you will continue to drive your football IQ so low that it will look like Tebow's Wonderlic score.

Marty got fired for his personality clash with AJ Smith. After that playoff loss, he let almost his entire staff walk (OC, DC, LB coach, TE coach, and I think one other) while they were still under contract. The straw that broke the camels back was when he tried to hire his son to fill one of those voids.

I'm sure the playoff loses (especially a #1 seed) added to the mix. But, saying he should have been allowed to continue "with the staff he'd brought together" is just plain ignorant.

[darth-hideous]

do you honestly think he was fired just because of those playoff losses?

I certainly didn't think it was for coaching them to the best regular season record in team history, i truly believe if Marty would have been given the chance the Chargers would have their ring by now.(At least one maybe two)

[BOLTMAN-1]

I ask you this donks, what's more relevant, the Shanny Era or the McD/Orton era?

The Shanny Era ended at the end of the 2008 season. Anything and everything he accomplished for the Broncos is over and gone. Shanny's past accomplishments can't help the Broncos now or in the future nor will the presence of Elway or his involvement of any kind. Last year was the beginning of the McD/Orton era, which is the most relevant. What a way to start out a new era by choking away what looked to be one of the most exciting seasons the Broncos have seen in a long time. The most relevant occurrence to date is the complete team and coaching staff collapse the NFL has ever seen. The choke was of epic proportions. On a scale of 1-10 it was a 10 indeed. Utter and complete FAILURE.

Bronco fans don't like being reminding of what just happened which could be a very good indicator of what the future holds, continual and utter FAILURE lead by Coach McOllapse himself.

[SLVR and Black]

The straw that broke the camels back was when he tried to hire his son to fill one of those voids.

Yep. AJ wanted to bring on Cottrell but Marty wouldn't do it. Guess we all know how that one went.

To AJ's credit, he made the right call and let Cottrell go during midseason -- that took guts IMO.

[BOLTMAN-1]

This is your cue to exit this conversation - otherwise, you will continue to drive your football IQ so low that it will look like Tebow's Wonderlic score.

Marty got fired for his personality clash with AJ Smith. After that playoff loss, he let almost his entire staff walk (OC, DC, LB coach, TE coach, and I think one other) while they were still under contract. The straw that broke the camels back was when he tried to hire his son to fill one of those voids.

I'm sure the playoff loses (especially a #1 seed) added to the mix. But, saying he should have been allowed to continue "with the staff he'd brought together" is just plain ignorant.

Your words are falling on deaf ears. The donk fans loved coach Marty because he never did anything relevant for the Chargers except coach this team to a couple good seasons then go 1-and-done in the playoffs. All coaches have their chokes but come on, Marty was a complete choke artist in the post season. One has to reach WAY back just to find a single playoff win. Here comes Norv and then he wipes his (explicit) with coach Shanny and the Broncos destroying them in both games his first season as HC of the Chargers leading them all the way to the AFCCG and 2 playoff wins his first season. To bad this team was so banged up and hobbled Norv would have easily led them to the SB his first year. You and I both know damn well A.J. said "now that's what I'm talking about Shott, you sorry (explicit explicit)!!

[Brakshow]

Hate to side with Charger fans on this one but Marty was a Perennial loser in the playoffs. He NEVER won enough to make it to 1 SB in 13 post-season appearances as a coach. I actually believe this to be a good move by San Diego. Even though I think they're getting the same with Norv I wont comment on that

[baphamet]

pretty much yea....why the hell else would you fire a coach that took you to 14-2 that same year? Marty had a stigma of being unable to win in the playoffs and being the idiots that the chargers staff are they jettisoned him because he hadn't won yet instead of leaving him in place with the staff he'd brought together and allowing him to continue to be a successful coach.

sorry to break it to you but in this case, you simply do not know what you are talking about.

first off, if they did fire him just because he choked in the playoffs....why on earth did they wait until two weeks before the combine to do it?

if you had been following the story you would know that there was a lot of friction between AJ smith and marty, AJ wanted marty gone the year before and the owner dean spanos had to get in the middle of it, it got so bad.

it wasn't that marty went 14-2 and choked in the playoffs, so that is why he got fired....its the fact that spanos was too stupid to realize that both his coordinators were about to find gigs and marty was about to turn down his contract extension.

which means he was going to coach the 2007 season and bolt (no pun intended) making him a lame duck coach with no coaching staff in place, a coaching staff they would need to replace the following year regardless.

this is why they waited to fire him, they fired him after all that unfolded..... they offered him a contract extension after he choked that year for god sakes! LMAO!!

since when do you offer extensions to coaches you are about to fire because they just choked in the playoffs??

does that make sense to you? me either!

Your owner became blinded by the chance of a championship and got impatient (stupidly because I really think with the talent that was on the team at the time you'd have already won a superbowl by now had you not been so impatient and fired one of the best coaches in chargers history)

nah man, you just don't know the situation very well yet think that you do. marty would have still been the coach that year had it not been for marty himself turning down his contract that was offered to him as well as the fact that both his coordinators got other jobs.

[IgorBStrange]

This is your cue to exit this conversation - otherwise, you will continue to drive your football IQ so low that it will look like Tebow's Wonderlic score.

Marty got fired for his personality clash with AJ Smith. After that playoff loss, he let almost his entire staff walk (OC, DC, LB coach, TE coach, and I think one other) while they were still under contract. The straw that broke the camels back was when he tried to hire his son to fill one of those voids.

I'm sure the playoff loses (especially a #1 seed) added to the mix. But, saying he should have been allowed to continue "with the staff he'd brought together" is just plain ignorant.

Brian Schottenheimer, Offensive Co-Ordinator of the NY J-E-T-S, Jets, Jets, Jets who beat your team on your field with a rookie QB, rookie RB and rookie HC after you had an off week to prepare for them.

Guess that one DID come back to bite you on the derriere.

[baphamet]

Brian Schottenheimer, Offensive Co-Ordinator of the NY J-E-T-S, Jets, Jets, Jets who beat your team on your field with a rookie QB, rookie RB and rookie HC after you had an off week to prepare for them.

Guess that one DID come back to bite you on the derriere.

what does marty's kid have to do with it? and why do you mention their Rookie QB? dude completed 12 passes for 100 yards.

i would rather get knocked out of the playoffs by a team like that rather than arguably the biggest NFL bust in history at home.

talk about pathetic LMAO!!

[White Dragon]

what does marty's kid have to do with it? and why do you mention their Rookie QB? dude completed 12 passes for 100 yards.

i would rather get knocked out of the playoffs by a team like that rather than arguably the biggest NFL bust in history at home.

talk about pathetic LMAO!!

Wait... are you referring to Ben Roethlisberger? Last I knew he wasn't a bust. A total d-bag, sure, but not a bust.