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[kishzilla]

nice try but you are simply wrong. yes it was ST's play but it is two completely unrelated issues.

one of them being kickoff/punk coverage and the other one being blocking assignments on punts.

don't sit there and pretend its the same issue just so you ca say "i told you so" because you are just flat out wrong.

there was never a problem with blocked punts until now, enough with the BS kish.

by the way i like how you wait until the chargers lost to say anything after your team got embarrassed. lol

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No matter how many times you say it, I've been smack talking you all week. Sorry if I was more interested in watching the games than jibber jabbering with your goofy ass today. Ha ha, that word is your defensive mechanism.

The adjustments you made hasn't made your ST unit any better. /of discussion

[baphamet]

The adjustments you made hasn't made your ST unit any better. /of discussion

they never made any adjustments to the punt blocking unit. even though the ST's coverage unit did give up one big play, no TD's though.

i wouldn't expect you to be able to tell the difference between the two.

[kishzilla]

they never made any adjustments to the punt blocking unit. even though the ST's coverage unit did give up one big play, no TD's though.

i wouldn't expect you to be able to tell the difference between the two.

What the hell are you talking about? Who said anything about your punt blocking? The raiders were the ones blocking punts.

And if you're telling me that the punt team that allowed opponents to average 25.5 yards on punt returns, making the Chargers punt coverage unit the league’s second-worst, DIDN'T make any changes, then that is truly outrageous.

But I wouldn't expect you to be able to do anything but grasp at straws and talk out your ass. :thumb:

[baphamet]

What the hell are you talking about? Who said anything about your punt blocking? The raiders were the ones blocking punts.

And if you're telling me that the punt team that allowed opponents to average 25.5 yards on punt returns, making the Chargers punt coverage unit the league’s second-worst, DIDN'T make any changes, then that is truly outrageous.

But I wouldn't expect you to be able to do anything but grasp at straws and talk out your ass. :thumb:

the team that covers kicks is not the same team that protects the punter, how do you not understand this concept??

the problems with the punts being blocked were missed assignments by the blockers. lol its not even the same unit at all you numskull.

the chargers made no changes to that unit, they made changes to the kick coverage unit.

seriously, is it really that hard to understand?

[kishzilla]

the team that covers kicks is not the same team that protects the punter, how do you not understand this concept??

the problems with the punts being blocked were missed assignments by the blockers. lol its not even the same unit at all you numskull.

the chargers made no changes to that unit, they made changes to the kick coverage unit.

seriously, is it really that hard to understand?

Baph, I think you're losing it buddy. The guys lined up at the LoS provide protection for the blocker as well as provide coverage after the kick has been made. You tryin to tell me they send different guys out when the ball is in the air? Or that they don't provide any coverage on the kick return? Or are you sayin the guys that run down the punt are the only ones that provide coverage? Even the long snapper provides coverage after the ball is in the air. lol Any way you slice it you are dead wrong and grasping.

[Beagle]

Baph, I think you're losing it buddy. The guys lined up at the LoS provide protection for the blocker as well as provide coverage after the kick has been made. You tryin to tell me they send different guys out when the ball is in the air? Or that they don't provide any coverage on the kick return? Or are you sayin the guys that run down the punt are the only ones that provide coverage? Even the long snapper provides coverage after the ball is in the air. lol Any way you slice it you are dead wrong and grasping.

I was laughing about this earlier but didn't want to type it out.

[kishzilla]

I was laughing about this earlier but didn't want to type it out.

I couldn't really figure out what the hell he was talking about. Then I realized it was because of him not me.

[Dr.Death]

Well whadya know? I'll take that win, and it was well earned and well deserved by my Raiders...still a looong way to go...so I'll just enjoy this. Nice game SD...GL the rest of the way...

[kishzilla]

Well whadya know? I'll take that win, and it was well earned and well deserved by my Raiders...still a looong way to go...so I'll just enjoy this. Nice game SD...GL the rest of the way...

Yes, well earned. Congrats to the raiders. Now be good little hoodlums and suck the rest of the year except when you play KC and SD

[Joshecalpoly]

Nah that would suggest they are well liked lol when there own fans dont show up to the games.

The phrase your looking for always the bridesmaid never the bride. LOL teams always running through them in the playoffs that they just cant make it to the big show.

[Dr.Death]

Yes, well earned. Congrats to the raiders. Now be good little hoodlums and suck the rest of the year except when you play KC and SD

Right-o man...back to robbing liquor stores...heh...:thumb:

[baphamet]

http://www.chargers.com/media-vault/videos/Norv-Turner/7b0f6653-7dc1-4d6a-8301-044c3a0fb8df

3:00 mark i told you its completely different players but you lesser knowledgeable fans talk ****. lol

wheres my morons thread when ya need it? lol

[baphamet]

I couldn't really figure out what the hell he was talking about. Then I realized it was because of him not me.

no, actually it was you, even though i could have explained it a little better. but hey! its not my job to explain the game of football to lesser knowledgeable fans.

for all the crap you talk i assume you have a clue what you are talking about.

[kishzilla]

no, actually it was you, even though i could have explained it a little better. but hey! its not my job to explain the game of football to lesser knowledgeable fans.

for all the crap you talk i assume you have a clue what you are talking about.

OK dude. Don't admit you just misspoke and move on.

I know plenty what I'm talking about, and I know that the KICKOFF coverage and PUNT TEAM coverage may be different people, but that's not what you were saying and that's why I thought it was funny.

That aside, if you really think he made no changes to a punt team that is and was 2nd worse in the league, allowed the longest-ever punt return against the Chargers, two 30 yard returns, one that was saved from a touchdown by scifres having to tackle the guy just in KC alone, afterwhich the punt team had an EMERGENCY MEETING, and then just let it go, and only made changes to the kickoff coverage unit, then I can't help you or Norvell. ha ha seriously baph think about what you're saying.

I know for a fact that you have gone through 4 long snappers after David Binn completely separated his hamstring from the bone against KC. I know for a fact the Chargers signed Quinton Teal, Dante Hughes and Ethan Albright who are all playing on BOTH coverage teams. And I know for a fact that after your embarrassing loss against the Seahawks, Norvell said, “We have issues to address in our coverage teams,” Turner said. “We have enough good players, we have a good enough scheme that we can address those issues … One of the ways to address it is to get some guys who have done a great job in the past who aren’t featured on the coverage teams."

Teams, as in plural of team as in the coverage of both punts and kickoffs genius.

If you really believe that what Norvell is saying in that video is that the kickoff coverage unit has different players than the punt coverage unit, and not that the kickoff and punt coverage units BOTH have different guys than the guys who allowed the poor play previously in the season, (which is the way I interpreted it) then you either think your coach is really that stupid but he isn't and it's just you, or he really is that stupid and you have more than just special teams problems Either way I think it's hilarious.

But continue questioning my knowledge of football you pompous jerk. You fail so hard so often I think it's very interesting that you should question anyone's knowledge of the subject.

[baphamet]

OK dude. Don't admit you just misspoke and move on.

I know plenty what I'm talking about, and I know that the KICKOFF coverage and PUNT TEAM coverage may be different people, but that's not what you were saying and that's why I thought it was funny.

that is EXACTLY what i was saying.

completely different issue, do you know the difference between kick coverage and blocking assignments on a punt? apparently you don't.

that said, the ST's coach needs to be fired tomorrow.

nice try but you are simply wrong. yes it was ST's play but it is two completely unrelated issues.

one of them being kickoff/punk coverage and the other one being blocking assignments on punts.

what the hell do you think i am talking about there kish?? shut up for a second and read for Christ sakes. .

That aside, if you really think he made no changes to a punt team that is and was 2nd worse in the league, allowed the longest-ever punt return against the Chargers, two 30 yard returns, one that was saved from a touchdown by scifres having to tackle the guy just in KC alone, afterwhich the punt team had an EMERGENCY MEETING, and then just let it go, and only made changes to the kickoff coverage unit, then I can't help you or Norvell. ha ha seriously baph think about what you're saying.

like i said, different guys. we are talking about guys that block on the interior line vs guys that run down field and make tackles.

its two different issues albeit both of them on ST's.

I know for a fact that you have gone through 4 long snappers after David Binn completely separated his hamstring from the bone against KC. I know for a fact the Chargers signed Quinton Teal, Dante Hughes and Ethan Albright who are all playing on BOTH coverage teams. And I know for a fact that after your embarrassing loss against the Seahawks, Norvell said, “We have issues to address in our coverage teams,” Turner said. “We have enough good players, we have a good enough scheme that we can address those issues … One of the ways to address it is to get some guys who have done a great job in the past who aren’t featured on the coverage teams."

Teams, as in plural of team as in the coverage of both punts and kickoffs genius.

i still don't think you get it man, forget kickoff coverage and punt coverage, i am talking about 300 pound interior linemen blocking for a punter vs speedy linebackers, running backs, WR's, and CB's running down the field covering kicks.

do you not see the difference there? to quote norv again since you apparently missed it.

oh no, you are talking about kick off coverage, you're talking about punting.....its different guys involved in the deal.

what he is saying is its comletly different guys involved with kick coverage (whether it be kickoffs or punts) vs a missed block on the interior line on a punt.

If you really believe that what Norvell is saying in that video is that the kickoff coverage unit has different players than the punt coverage unit, and not that the kickoff and punt coverage units BOTH have different guys than the guys who allowed the poor play previously in the season, (which is the way I interpreted it) then you either think your coach is really that stupid but he isn't and it's just you, or he really is that stupid and you have more than just special teams problems Either way I think it's hilarious.[

again, just as i said, he is talking about different guys. i interpreted it as he went on to add that he made other changes.

the fact is the interior linemen making those mistakes was different than covering a kick, completely different issue, that is the bottom line.

But continue questioning my knowledge of football you pompous jerk. You fail so hard so often I think it's very interesting that you should question anyone's knowledge of the subject.

i am a nice guy what are you talking about??