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  • baphamet
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    here is a good breakdown of how its happening, the players at fault are all on the team still according to this lol

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  • Brancos
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    Originally posted by Dr.Death

    You don't even have something to polish....sure that's all we got right now, but it's three times what you don't even have.
    3(0)=0

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  • SLVR and Black
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    Originally posted by baphamet
    they either lack coaching or they are not buying into the coaching they are getting (which i think may be the case here).
    Or, they're just simply the wrong guys. I'm not saying that they are, just bringing that up as a possibility.

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  • baphamet
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    Originally posted by SLVR and Black
    I think that Norv probably has 100% responsibility without 100% authority.
    that's why AJ deserves the heat he gets as well when the chargers get knocked out of the playoffs.

    i mean, according to norv, its not the coaching , its the players. so wouldn't that fall on AJ for making the decision to keep those guys? isn't he the one responsible for bringing in the players?

    even though i think that is BS. when you have meltdowns like that on ST's it has to be mainly coaching.

    this is the NFL not college football, the guys on every ST's unit are talented and fast guys.

    they either lack coaching or they are not buying into the coaching they are getting (which i think may be the case here).

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  • kishzilla
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    Originally posted by SLVR and Black
    I think that Norv probably has 100% responsibility without 100% authority.
    probably so...

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  • SLVR and Black
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    Originally posted by kishzilla
    Well as with most HC, I would imagine coaching staff is under Norv's responsibilities. But I suppose anything's possible.
    I think that Norv probably has 100% responsibility without 100% authority.

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  • baphamet
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    Originally posted by kishzilla
    Well as with most HC, I would imagine coaching staff is under Norv's responsibilities. But I suppose anything's possible.
    nope, norv doesn't seem to have much of a say when it comes to that. when he was hired (IIRC) he didn't bring in any of his own guys, they were either already on the staff or hired by AJ and spanos.

    there is a similar situation in Dallas with wade, who is also a yes man like norv. i seriously doubt if a change was needed to be made like that, that it would be left up to wade to make the move.

    although i am sure norv has a say in it, i am just not all too sure how much of a say he has.

    when you are talking about coaches like wade Philips and norv turner, in the situations they are in with very controlling GM's......its not the same situation as most teams out there.

    that is my opinion at least because it is all speculation.

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  • kishzilla
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    Originally posted by baphamet
    i agree heads should have already rolled but is that even norv's decision to make? norv cant even take a leak without AJ saying it is okay lol
    Well as with most HC, I would imagine coaching staff is under Norv's responsibilities. But I suppose anything's possible.

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  • baphamet
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    Originally posted by kishzilla
    Crosby should already be gone. The fact Norvell hasn't made this happen would piss me off.
    i agree heads should have already rolled but is that even norv's decision to make? norv cant even take a leak without AJ saying it is okay lol

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  • kishzilla
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    Originally posted by SLVR and Black
    Not just in Riverside, it's also in...uhmm, what were we talking about again?
    How the raiders suck eggs.

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  • kishzilla
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    Originally posted by baphamet
    okay, i stand corrected, i totally forgot about that lol

    but yeah, by the end of the season when we take our fifth consecutive
    AFCW title and are dominate in November and december, you better be ready for the crow to be served.

    because i will say this, if you are right and this is allowed to continue (which i am still saying it wont) and we miss the playoffs because of it, i guarantee i will be calling for the entire coaching staffs head.
    If crow is due my way I have no problem taking it, but the same goes for you. Even if you do win the division, if it's another 8-8'er, you and the coaching staff should still be on the hook. You for the smack talk, and them for their ineptitude. We fired a HC that actually won us SB because of it. A guy like Norvell should be walking on eggshells at this point, especially with guys like Cowher talking about coming back to coaching...

    And as far as waiting till after the regular season to call for the head of someone, Crosby should already be gone. The fact Norvell hasn't made this happen would piss me off.
    Last edited by kishzilla; 10-14-2010, 06:33 PM.

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  • baphamet
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    Originally posted by kishzilla


    Can't wait until you reply to this post and spin everything I just proved you to be flat out wrong or lying about and won't admit to.

    4 of the 5 games you've played so far have had glaring special teams issues and they've cost you 3 games so far. Coverage is still an issue, the blocked punt was an issue that came up before the Oak game and is obviously still an issue, and Steve Crosby still has his job and Norvell said Crosby will not be fired because of his unit's problems.

    Yeah Baph, I can't wait till the end of the season either...
    okay, i stand corrected, i totally forgot about that lol

    but yeah, by the end of the season when we take our fifth consecutive
    AFCW title and are dominate in November and december, you better be ready for the crow to be served.

    because i will say this, if you are right and this is allowed to continue (which i am still saying it wont) and we miss the playoffs because of it, i guarantee i will be calling for the entire coaching staffs head.

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  • SLVR and Black
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    Originally posted by kishzilla
    This is a well documented phenomena among riverside co area raiders fans
    Not just in Riverside, it's also in...uhmm, what were we talking about again?

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  • kishzilla
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    Originally posted by RAIDER951
    Seriously though, the posts are too long for my attention disorder.
    This is a well documented phenomena among riverside co area raiders fans

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  • RAIDER951
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    You two should just get a room haha. Seriously though, the posts are too long for my attention disorder.

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