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  • #16
    Originally posted by ebsoria View Post
    Methinks SD fans have pretty much come to terms with the Ryan Leaf debacle. Oak may have a few more years until they're over the JR failure.
    you really cant get over something like that until you get a QB that is what leaf was supposed to be.

    luckily, we only had to suffer without a good QB for a few years until brees broke out in 2004, we have been sitting pretty nice at QB since.

    so yeah, i am over it.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by jcdavey View Post
      we didn't trade brees lol, and we didn't pass on vick, we traded the #1 pick which turned into vick, so that we could get LT and other considerations (and that i'd say was the better move as LT turned out to be a better rb than vick was as a qb, plus vick got jailed)

      brees left via free agency, and only had 2 teams bidding on him due to his horribly mangled labrum (which 'miraculously' healed.....)
      Yeah, "traded" was a slip-up in my wording. Forgot, you just let him walk out the door.

      And there was a time I thought L.T. was the better acquisition, but then he done wo out, and now Vick is one of the best QB's in the league.

      It happens -- it's just ironic that two franchise quarterbacks have been passed on by the Chargers SINCE they jumped all over themselves to get Leaf.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Jay3 View Post
        Yeah, "traded" was a slip-up in my wording. Forgot, you just let him walk out the door.

        And there was a time I thought L.T. was the better acquisition, but then he done wo out, and now Vick is one of the best QB's in the league.

        It happens -- it's just ironic that two franchise quarterbacks have been passed on by the Chargers SINCE they jumped all over themselves to get Leaf.
        vick was a flash in the pan last year who quickly faded at the end

        he has no jewelry as you guys like to say.....

        as for brees, we let him walk and only 2 teams out of 32 bid on him (3 if you count our offer) and brees correctly chose the offer with the most guaranteed cash, since he was staring at a possible career ending injury, and his recovery was miraculous (those are his doctor's own words)

        to be quite technical, brees couldn't get it done in new orleans until they signed FA darren sharper + traded for jonathan vilma (LB) (defensive moves)
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        • #19
          I swear we've argued about this already.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by 12and4 View Post
            I swear we've argued about this already.
            We've argued about Leaf, Russell, Moss,etc like 50 times or more on these boards. Every time someone sees something new(or something we have yet to see) we will make a thread on it.
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            • #21
              Offseason on an NFL forum during a lockout = little if any topics of contention.






              I just hope it doesn't devolve into the Chargers boards
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              • #22
                Originally posted by Jay3 View Post
                Yeah, "traded" was a slip-up in my wording. Forgot, you just let him walk out the door.

                And there was a time I thought L.T. was the better acquisition, but then he done wo out, and now Vick is one of the best QB's in the league.

                It happens -- it's just ironic that two franchise quarterbacks have been passed on by the Chargers SINCE they jumped all over themselves to get Leaf.
                And yet SD is still the only team in the division with a franchise QB. Whats that say about the rest of the division then???

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by NFLfan..MLBzzzz View Post
                  And yet SD is still the only team in the division with a franchise QB. Whats that say about the rest of the division then???
                  i think it can be argued that denver and oakland may not have a franchise qb yet

                  but with what cassell did last year, i'd be apt to slide his name toward the franchise part more than not

                  he put up some nice numbers, and despite not getting to the playoffs in NE the year he started, he did go 10-5....not too shabby at all IMO, and that was with an oline that year in NE that was trying to get him killed, and an oline who did get brady killed


                  i'd say cut cassell some slack.....
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Jer_ber73 View Post
                    I remember Leaf when he was going into the draft. My memory isnt very good but I think i remember them saying he threw a better deep ball and had better physical traits than Manning. QB is a crap shoot especially that high in the draft. you seem to have recovered with Brees and Rivers tho.
                    They did, but I thought he was going to be a superstar also, so I fell into the trap.
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                    • #25
                      We are arguing about a list made a year ago of course weve had this discussion heck after having one of the most patient men in the world quit as your life coach and no teams wanting him Russell not making the list should be an indication of how old it is.
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                      • #26
                        Don't get me wrong, Leaf was a MAJOR bust but I don't think you could qualify him as a bigger bust, literally and figuratively speaking, than JaWalrus!

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by jhildebrand View Post
                          Don't get me wrong, Leaf was a MAJOR bust but I don't think you could qualify him as a bigger bust, literally and figuratively speaking, than JaWalrus!
                          based on stats + draft position, leaf's the worst lol
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