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  • #76
    Originally posted by baphamet View Post
    i am willing to bet that the raiders fans travel well because they have fans all over the place due to their storied past and three NFL championships.

    you can look at almost every franchise in college or the NFL with multiple championships in their history and see similar results.

    winning championships breeds loyal fans, especially fans that live in cities or regions that don't have a home team.

    i think a lot of it has to do with being on the west coast. SF had a terrible fan base before they won their rings, LA cant keep a team, we all know about SD.

    Arizona and Florida is the same way, pretty much any area where you got people from all over the country moving there with great weather and tons of stuff to do.

    people retire or get rich and move to those areas, most of them are not lifelong fans of the home team.

    southern California has the most transplants but no cal has a lot as well. i guarantee you if the chargers win 2-3 championships there will be a "chargers nation" as well.

    but that still wont stop the fairweathers from being fairweather when the team is struggling, thats just the way people are over there in general i think.
    Your not lieing ive been all over the world and see Steelers, Cowboys, Broncos, 9ers, Packers, and Raiders everywhere I go, ive seen a few Fins and maybe a Pat but never really any Skins though.

    Once in Australia I watched these 2 guys fighting on the street one wearing Raiders the other Broncos over which team was better. Although hearing the words American Football so many times made my teeth grind I couldnt help but laugh at the fact the teams loyalties translated to the other side of the world and to that degree. (for those that ask the Bronco guy didnt put up much of a fight) Part of me remembers them arguing over Gradishar or Hendricks but that doesnt seem right

    Last year I went to Europe not to long after the draft and I actually saw several counterfeit Tebow Bronco Jerseys, or at least I think they were it seemed to soon but I must say the italian mob makes amazing knockoffs of other things so I wouldnt be surprised

    Still home loyalty is different then overseas. Skins fans were loyal to a fault selling out the stadium for at least 12 years before winning. Bronco fans did the same only waiting 27 years. Jets and Chiefs fans still cling to there championship trophy. A lot of it may have to do with location since football isnt as big in the west as it is in the south the east or the middle of america. Similar to northerners and hockey or easterners and baseball or how many southerners arent into basketball. Growing up in a certain region does tend to change things. Mostly its a generational thing where its taught and sometimes picked up based on the era you grew up in if the local team is doing well.
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    • #77
      Originally posted by ERoyal248 View Post
      Denver is the only team i like in that town, but we're 2nd or 3rd in consecutive sellouts, say what you want, Denver fans pack the stadium every week.

      Real fairweather, you're right.

      http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/previe...ory?id=3530077

      From 2008..

      Denver: Consecutive sellouts: 293 | Season-ticket waiting list: 27,600

      Dolts: Consecutive sellouts: 30 | Season-ticket waiting list: Undisclosed

      LOL, Denver fans are hands down more passionate then Charger fans. At least we don't get blacked out during a MNF game against your div rival.
      Denver has a regional following. I have met season ticket holders from Neb, Wyoming, New Mexico, Kansas. I'm sure Utah has some too. SD had 2 teams 60 miles north. 2 More teams in the north part of the state. 1 team 120 miles to the east.

      Yes the Bronco's have sold out more games. But going to a game is not the complete definition of a fair weather fan.

      To gauge a true fan, I always ask them, who was your starting safties in the SB vs Packers, Starting RG or RT, Starting ILB? 95% have zero clue. Everyone knows Elway, Davis, Smith. My inlaws jumped ship to become Bronco fans. They are from Cleveland........Wins create a bandwagon. SD has one too. How big would SD's bandwagon be with a SB win? Probably the same size as Denvers.

      I thought the Denver fan base was diehard....until I moved here. I lived in Pitt and those are REAL fans.

      My name was just pulled for season tickets after 4 years. The 20 year packer-type wait list is gone. A few more horrible seasons and the wait list will be gone. Also, Denvers economy is much, much more stable than most of the nation.

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      • #78
        Originally posted by BoltzCO View Post
        Wins create a bandwagon. SD has one too. How big would SD's bandwagon be with a SB win? Probably the same size as Denvers.

        I thought the Denver fan base was diehard....until I moved here. I lived in Pitt and those are REAL fans.
        You're retarded.


        We have a sell-out streak that has many many more games in front of the SB wins than after it. Your entire argument is retarded. Quit projecting your own fan bases shortcomings on to ours. I've lived in SD as I said before, and they are the most lack luster bunch of limp wristed fans I've ever seen.
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        • #79
          Originally posted by BoltzCO View Post
          Denver has a regional following. I have met season ticket holders from Neb, Wyoming, New Mexico, Kansas. I'm sure Utah has some too. SD had 2 teams 60 miles north. 2 More teams in the north part of the state. 1 team 120 miles to the east.

          Yes the Bronco's have sold out more games. But going to a game is not the complete definition of a fair weather fan.

          To gauge a true fan, I always ask them, who was your starting safties in the SB vs Packers, Starting RG or RT, Starting ILB? 95% have zero clue. Everyone knows Elway, Davis, Smith. My inlaws jumped ship to become Bronco fans. They are from Cleveland........Wins create a bandwagon. SD has one too. How big would SD's bandwagon be with a SB win? Probably the same size as Denvers.

          I thought the Denver fan base was diehard....until I moved here. I lived in Pitt and those are REAL fans.

          My name was just pulled for season tickets after 4 years. The 20 year packer-type wait list is gone. A few more horrible seasons and the wait list will be gone. Also, Denvers economy is much, much more stable than most of the nation.
          Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Green Bay... those cities are tied to their NFL teams at the hip. Much stronger than most city/team links.

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          • #80
            Originally posted by BoltzCO View Post
            Denver has a regional following. I have met season ticket holders from Neb, Wyoming, New Mexico, Kansas. I'm sure Utah has some too. SD had 2 teams 60 miles north. 2 More teams in the north part of the state. 1 team 120 miles to the east.

            Yes the Bronco's have sold out more games. But going to a game is not the complete definition of a fair weather fan.

            To gauge a true fan, I always ask them, who was your starting safties in the SB vs Packers, Starting RG or RT, Starting ILB? 95% have zero clue. Everyone knows Elway, Davis, Smith. My inlaws jumped ship to become Bronco fans. They are from Cleveland........Wins create a bandwagon. SD has one too. How big would SD's bandwagon be with a SB win? Probably the same size as Denvers.

            I thought the Denver fan base was diehard....until I moved here. I lived in Pitt and those are REAL fans.

            My name was just pulled for season tickets after 4 years. The 20 year packer-type wait list is gone. A few more horrible seasons and the wait list will be gone. Also, Denvers economy is much, much more stable than most of the nation.
            In all honesty since the mid 90's denver has been getting more transplants and expanding which has changed the scope. On Sunday even after the game Colorado was a wasteland with most people watching the game, businesses including restaurants were closed (except sports bars).

            We had wing place near me that won a national award the year before the 1st SB victory and we tried to order wings and they were closed during the SB because noone wanted to work it and noone really went out that much during it. Add that to the south stands no longer being cheap but actually a luxury and the new stadium laws that actually can allow them to take away your season tickets for being to rowdy and disturbing those around you (it doesnt even take a bad word) the Broncos have been neutered quite a bit. We held the record for loudest stadium in sports now you here more noise from the fans leaving the stadium then you do inside.
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            • #81
              Originally posted by DevilSpawn View Post
              Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Green Bay... those cities are tied to their NFL teams at the hip. Much stronger than most city/team links.
              Cleveland lost the team originally because fans refused to build a new stadium and then years later Modells stupidity aside the revenue was dropping to unacceptable levels. I cant say were attached at the hip.

              Honestly if all teams were run like GB I think there would be a lot more happy fans. Granted some will claim its socialism but you feel more pride when you own a share of the local team
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              • #82
                Originally posted by DevilSpawn View Post
                Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Green Bay... those cities are tied to their NFL teams at the hip. Much stronger than most city/team links.
                especially green bay. that town literally shuts down when the packers play. they are the NFL version of husker fans.

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by Joshecalpoly View Post
                  Your not lieing ive been all over the world and see Steelers, Cowboys, Broncos, 9ers, Packers, and Raiders everywhere I go, ive seen a few Fins and maybe a Pat but never really any Skins though.

                  Once in Australia I watched these 2 guys fighting on the street one wearing Raiders the other Broncos over which team was better. Although hearing the words American Football so many times made my teeth grind I couldnt help but laugh at the fact the teams loyalties translated to the other side of the world and to that degree. (for those that ask the Bronco guy didnt put up much of a fight) Part of me remembers them arguing over Gradishar or Hendricks but that doesnt seem right

                  Last year I went to Europe not to long after the draft and I actually saw several counterfeit Tebow Bronco Jerseys, or at least I think they were it seemed to soon but I must say the italian mob makes amazing knockoffs of other things so I wouldnt be surprised

                  Still home loyalty is different then overseas. Skins fans were loyal to a fault selling out the stadium for at least 12 years before winning. Bronco fans did the same only waiting 27 years. Jets and Chiefs fans still cling to there championship trophy. A lot of it may have to do with location since football isnt as big in the west as it is in the south the east or the middle of america. Similar to northerners and hockey or easterners and baseball or how many southerners arent into basketball. Growing up in a certain region does tend to change things. Mostly its a generational thing where its taught and sometimes picked up based on the era you grew up in if the local team is doing well.
                  skins is probably the smallest following i have seen out of all the teams that have won multiple rings and i really don't know why.

                  i see bears fans everywhere, i would say their legacy since the merger is not as good as the skins but Chicago sports fans are some of the most loyal fans in the country.

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by baphamet View Post
                    skins is probably the smallest following i have seen out of all the teams that have won multiple rings and i really don't know why.

                    i see bears fans everywhere, i would say their legacy since the merger is not as good as the skins but Chicago sports fans are some of the most loyal fans in the country.
                    locally they are hard corps though, some say it doesnt translate well outside of the region to have a team named after what many call an ethnic slur. There is some truth to that, but many consider it a staple and thus it may never change

                    Chicago fans turn on their teams fast and love to complain but they still cheer for them just the same.

                    I still say Eagles are officially my #1 worst fans, they boo there own team when ever they get a chance and even boo McNabb for the team drafting him. Philly fans are like night and day to Pitt. Pitt can be horrible and they will still proudly shake those dirty terrible towels while philly finds excuses not to route for any of there franchises
                    Last edited by Joshecalpoly; 09-09-2011, 11:59 PM.
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