AJ Smith = Josh McDaniels

[Puddleglum]

Manusky needs time. But I never understood the hire in the first place. I tried telling Baph. The guy had Patrick Willis, a serious beast, and couldn't do more.

Manusky was the LB or ST coach (can't remember) under Wade, so the Chargers saw Manusky as a source of continuity.

I would be scared for SD to fire AJ and Norv. If they did, that would be the coveted job. It would bring the likes of Holmgren, Cowher, Gruden to the door to the point they wouldn't command the same dollar amount had they gone for a job like ours when it was open.

You make some good points, however the Spanos family treats the Chargers as a business and little more. They would never part with the $ required to bring a legitimately good HC/Exec to San Diego. I still think the next GM of the Chargers has the surname Spanos.

I just don't get trading up for a Mathews when you can get great backs later.

I would agree with you, especially when he has been neglecting the O-line and it really shows these days. I'd take a primo O-lineman over a top-flight RB any day.

I don't get going after some of the other LB'ers that were there. Maualuga was passed on. Drafting a kid like that would not only put butts in the seats being a USC kid, but he would be a BEAST there.

I was personally on the Maualuga bandwagon. AJ has been blowing 1st round picks for years. Combine that and his tendency to trade away our 2nd rounders next year for a 3rd this year and you'll quickly be fielding a sub par team.

The DT he drafted seems to be a stretch too. Wasn't there a guy from Canada, too?

Liuget gets a pass this year in my book, as does any rookie this year as Baph has been good enough to remind me time and again this year. As for the guy from Canada, you are referring to Vaughn Martin a 4th round pick in I don't know which year. He starts these days ever since Glasstillo got hurt. He'll get pushed around by better O-lines, he's servicable in a 3-4 but I'd like to see the Chargers in a 4-3. (which I think they are running more of these days regardless)

[mct1967]

Only difference is, Josh will be a fine to great head coach on day, while AJ Smith will be a fail forever.

Yeah, McDum Dum is doing a bang-up job as the Rams' OC. He took over a marginal offense and turned it into the worst offense in the NFL.

McD was a ball-boy for the Pats, got lucky to be with a great NE coach, players and franchise, coached a HOF QB and offense that was in place before he was there and got way too much credit for a system that was clearly Belichick's.

Somehow McD's bravado won Bowlen over to become an HC, which he was clearly not ready for. He made dozens of mistakes even a smart football fan wouldn't have made and alienated players and coaches with his arrogance and attitude. Got rid of good players and left the Broncos in the mess it is now. Elway and Co. are just now starting to fix the mess McDunce left.

McD will be fired by the Rams at the end of the season and he'll have to con some team into hiring him as a QB coach for next year.

If in the years to come he gets a team to take a chance on him as OC or HC again, he'll try to do the same offense the Pats did and fail like in St. Louis and Denver.

Unless McD changes his attitude and offensive strategies he wont ever prosper as an OC or HC.

[jhildebrand]

i will admit, anyone who doubted manusky (even if it was just blind hope) were dead on. our defense has taken a huge step back from last year.

I think I said late teens early 20's for all major statistical rankings. In fairness to Manusky and the D, Rivers has had an abnormal amount of TO's which doesn't help the D.

As fo JC not wanting any of the 3, I don't blame you. However, if your team was to make an all out move letting AJ and Norval go that would be the safest bet. You wouldn't want to take a chance on a guy like Perry Fewell (who I think will be an awesome coach) and go through the growing pains. You will want someone who can win now hence those 3. They win and walk away champs. Then hand it over to a guy like a Fewell no different than Pitt did between Cowher and Tomlin.

[baphamet]

Manusky needs time. But I never understood the hire in the first place. I tried telling Baph. The guy had Patrick Willis, a serious beast, and couldn't do more.

I would be scared for SD to fire AJ and Norv. If they did, that would be the coveted job. It would bring the likes of Holmgren, Cowher, Gruden to the door to the point they wouldn't command the same dollar amount had they gone for a job like ours when it was open.

i will admit, anyone who doubted manusky (even if it was just blind hope) were dead on. our defense has taken a huge step back from last year.

[jcdavey]

Manusky needs time. But I never understood the hire in the first place. I tried telling Baph. The guy had Patrick Willis, a serious beast, and couldn't do more.

I would be scared for SD to fire AJ and Norv. If they did, that would be the coveted job. It would bring the likes of Holmgren, Cowher, Gruden to the door to the point they wouldn't command the same dollar amount had they gone for a job like ours when it was open.

i wouldn`t want any of those 3 if we fire norv

[jhildebrand]

i agree, he struck out big time on english and the guys he tried to use as fill ins for merriman

it`s a shame

if merriman wouldn`t have gotten titan`d it may have been a much different story for us

That Titan hit was dirty and it is a shame. The league with all their safety bull crap should have Merriman as the poster boy for their zero tolerance policy.

I just don't get trading up for a Mathews when you can get great backs later. I don't get going after some of the other LB'ers that were there. Maualuga was passed on. Drafting a kid like that would not only put butts in the seats being a USC kid, but he would be a BEAST there.

The DT he drafted seems to be a stretch too. Wasn't there a guy from Canada, too?

[-Rod-]

yea he's proving that by taking bradford to new heights ....right?

i mean he's only dropped the rams to the 32nd ranked scoreing offense

LOL no kidding. Whoever decided to hire McDenials there in St. Louis should be fired.

[johnlimburg]

Only difference is, Josh will be a fine to great head coach on day, while AJ Smith will be a fail forever.

There is exactly nothing to back this up what so ever. Nothing at all.

[jhildebrand]

in some ways cottrell`s defense was as good as wade`s

if i had to choose i`d pick cottrell over what i`ve seen from the guy we have now lol

Manusky needs time. But I never understood the hire in the first place. I tried telling Baph. The guy had Patrick Willis, a serious beast, and couldn't do more.

I would be scared for SD to fire AJ and Norv. If they did, that would be the coveted job. It would bring the likes of Holmgren, Cowher, Gruden to the door to the point they wouldn't command the same dollar amount had they gone for a job like ours when it was open.

[jcdavey]

His biggest failure was not to have an adequate backup plan/replacement for Merriman. The LB corp is killing your team.

i agree, he struck out big time on english and the guys he tried to use as fill ins for merriman

it`s a shame

if merriman wouldn`t have gotten titan`d it may have been a much different story for us

[jcdavey]

I hear you and understand your opinion even though I disagree with it.

AJ forced Cotrell on Norv. That cost your team time. He should have been gone for that alone.



I don't know. I just know it gets some of the sparkler fans worked up

in some ways cottrell`s defense was as good as wade`s

if i had to choose i`d pick cottrell over what i`ve seen from the guy we have now lol

[jhildebrand]

Um....I wouldn't go that far. Norv hasn't had a losing season since he's been here. Heck Josh sunk the Broncos in less than 2 full seasons.

This aint Norv v Josh, Boltman. Is it that hard for you to figure out? For a person who supposedly does multi-continental business trips, comprehension sure seems to be an issue.

As to this point you are trying to make, pick a side for once. Either it is about winning and meeting expectations (you sure talk about the minor successes your team has had when it benefits) or it is about "not having a losing season."

Your team has, to this point, massively, underachieved. PERIOD. No other way to put it.

[jhildebrand]

he used to be a damn good GM, but he`s failed to deliver on any backup plans

i don`t consider any of the names you mentioned though as big losses given the scenarios in which they were all allowed to walk away

His biggest failure was not to have an adequate backup plan/replacement for Merriman. The LB corp is killing your team.

[jhildebrand]

where were you when when the tables were turned?

I spend most my time at another bronco forum. What difference does it make. I have been here every week since the season started.

starting thread after thread now that the Chargers are losing and the Broncos are on a teeny itsy bitsy weedle win streak. Are you kidding me jhill?

Says the poster who disappeared when my team was 6-0 and only returned after the final second ticked off in week 17.

Rivers > Tweebs (no comparison)

This wasn't about the not so elite Rivers nor Tebow. So stick to the point.

The point is AJ is no better a GM than McDaniels. You guys who elevated him to demi-god now have to face reality. I suppose that is harder after 8 seasons or so than our barely 2 under doofus. At least Bowlen aint cheap a la Spanos.

[jcdavey]

AJ Smith has allowed Drew Brees, Michael Turner, Ladanian Tomlinson, and Darren Sproles all to walk....

FOR NOTHING!

I know some chugger fans have said he is the best GM in the league but you can't look at that statement and not be wowed at his inability to get value i.e. picks for those guys. No wonder you are .500 over the last 26.

If there were any doubt that AJ should follow Norv out the door, there shouldn't be now.

I personally hope they stay

he used to be a damn good GM, but he`s failed to deliver on any backup plans

i don`t consider any of the names you mentioned though as big losses given the scenarios in which they were all allowed to walk away