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hey BAP!!! heres an article about your stoutly expressed views on miller
but i wasn't wrong. the dude is a rookie and if he is breaking out of the mold and becoming the player he has never been before then more power to him, doesn't mean i am wrong.
also, one article based off opinion doesn't make me wrong either. ive watched that guy play, hes good at getting penetration in the backfield, he has gotten better about not over pursuing the running backs.
i cant say for sure about his ability in coverage other than to say in the past it hasn't been good.
again, this kid is still a rookie, the jury is still out on him as far as how good he will be in the NFL. so far he is definitely doing great, never said he wasn't.
also, for the three years when merrmian was tearing it up he was by far the best pass rusher in the league in that span, yet you get offended when i compared miller to him?
i think you know i wasn't talking about his antics or even his style of rushing the passer.
the comparison was the fact that they are both pass rushing specialists and that's what they were Drafted to do.
if you actually believe miller was drafted to be a guy that Fly's all over the field then you are kidding yourself.
he is a pass rushing specialist, learn about the players on your own team lol
one article based off opinion? That article is based off hard stats not opnion. geez you are going all ROD about it.
The one guy in the league rushing the passer more efectivly than Miller is Carlos Dunlap of the Bengals he has played 400 fewer snaps because...he is a pass rush specialist. Learn about the Broncos players before you talk about them. NOBODY at Millers positon is playing the run better than Miller the stats prove it. Move along now Baph even ROD knew when he lost...see him around here?
are you talking career or right now? because i don't see how you can say manning is top 5 even healthy.dude will never be a top 5 QB again, he is done.
maybe you should try his highschool stats to prove your aurgument?
stat sheet reading arapaho. i watched the dude in college many times, you clearly did not.
would you like me to post links to articles talking about how one dimensional he was? since articles posted based off opinion seem to be so valid to you.
Summary
Von Miller is arguably the best pass rusher in the 2011 Draft. Miller led the nation in sacks with 17 during his junior season, yet elected to return to the Aggies for his senior year. With an explosive first step and elite athleticism, Miller will start making his living in the NFL as a pass rush specialist. However, that doesn’t mean he won’t be used on all three downs. His senior season allowed him to officially make a switch to outside linebacker, giving him the opportunity to drop into coverage more often. Smart and dedicated, he’ll make any NFL team happy as a terror off the edge, and will more than likely blossom into a very well rounded 3-4 OLB.
Run Stopping
Miller’s speed can get the better of him. He has a tendency to get upfield too quickly and can’t react in time to draw plays. Miller can take poor pursuit angles at time, but his speed usually makes up for it. Overall, he’s instinctive and flows to the ball very well, using his hands to get through traffic. Miller has had a knack for coming up big in short yardage situations, remaining stout at the point of attack for someone that is usually out-matched from a weight perspective.
Coverage
Still a developing part of Miller’s game. He has fluid hips and changes directions well but he has a hard time with quicker/shifty backs in coverage. Athleticism and work ethic will help his coverage abilities develop and more than likely, teams will rarely put him in coverage and will use his ability to get to the quarterback instead….at least at first. Miller is relentless and never gives up on the play. Timing is solid and knows how to get his hand in and break up the pass or grab the ball at it’s highest point. Miller’s body control is very apparent while in coverage.
stat sheet reading arapaho. i watched the dude in college many times, you clearly did not.
would you like me to post links to articles talking about how one dimensional he was? since articles posted based off opinion seem to be so valid to you.
keep on reading the stats dude, guess you are wrong now since i posted an article.
Nope that was a predraft report lets look up Ryan Leafs and see what it says.. oh it was wrong? just like you? my bad. The stats prove it dude its not what some random dude say he can or can't do it what he has actually done. I am done. You fail and are now just being a TROLL and have failed at that move on
Originally posted by baphamet
are you talking career or right now? because i don't see how you can say manning is top 5 even healthy.dude will never be a top 5 QB again, he is done.
Nope that was a predraft report lets look up Ryan Leafs and see what it says.. oh it was wrong? just like you? my bad. The stats prove it dude its not what some random dude say he can or can't do it what he has actually done. I am done. You fail and are now just being a TROLL and have failed at that move on
umm i was responding to arapaho who was posting stats from college trying to say he wasn't one dimensional in college, but nice try there beagle.
by the way ryan leafs scouting report actually was pretty accurate. the scouts did voice concerns about his maturity, however the chargers didn't take it into consideration.
leafs issues were purely mental, he had all the physical tools, just like Russell did as well.
kind of like how arapaho used to say rivers was basically ryan leaf on a better team lol
Or like baprod saying cutler playing a full season with undiagnosed diabetes had no effect on him...despite loading 30 pounds..complaining of chronic fatigue....it had zero effect on a professional athelete with his grueling schedule.
Because it didn't bother baprod in jr high
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Or like baprod saying cutler playing a full season with undiagnosed diabetes had no effect on him...despite loading 30 pounds..complaining of chronic fatigue....it had zero effect on a professional athelete with his grueling schedule.
Because it didn't bother baprod in jr high
you can never win that argument because you are simply wrong lol
i said it has no effect on his ability other than fatigue.
go look up the original posts i clearly remember stating that.
it simply has no effect on your physical ability, again i know this from experience as i am a diabetic for almost 20 years and was actually playing football when i was first diagnosed.
every time you bring this up i shoot you down, only for you to bring it up again.
give it up dude, i have been wrong before but this isn't one of those times.
you can never win that argument because you are simply wrong lol
i said it has no effect on his ability other than fatigue.
go look up the original posts i clearly remember stating that.
it simply has no effect on your physical ability, again i know this from experience as i am a diabetic for almost 20 years and was actually playing football when i was first diagnosed.
every time you bring this up i shoot you down, only for you to bring it up again.
give it up dude, i have been wrong before but this isn't one of those times.
Much like an hourglass, our mental processing power slowly ebbs as the fatigue debt increases. The transition affects all performance functions and occurs in such an insidious, gradual manner that we are not usually aware of the decrement.
Originally posted by baphamet
are you talking career or right now? because i don't see how you can say manning is top 5 even healthy.dude will never be a top 5 QB again, he is done.
you can never win that argument because you are simply wrong lol
i said it has no effect on his ability other than fatigue.
go look up the original posts i clearly remember stating that.
it simply has no effect on your physical ability, again i know this from experience as i am a diabetic for almost 20 years and was actually playing football when i was first diagnosed.
every time you bring this up i shoot you down, only for you to bring it up again.
give it up dude, i have been wrong before but this isn't one of those times.
hey rod...you forgot to see this part in your pre draft report...when trying to prove your point that miller is a one trick pony
Overall, he’s instinctive and flows to the ball very well, using his hands to get through traffic. Miller has had a knack for coming up big in short yardage situations, remaining stout at the point of attack for someone that is usually out-matched from a weight perspective.
as far as undiagnosed diabetes having no effect other than fatigue....your full of it...with most people cronic fatigue would be a annoyance
for a professional athelete its a debilitating condition
there are real dangers with diabetease going unchecked
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