Attention: Panther fans

[FrankieGoes]

I missed a couple of the key ones. On the incomplete pass...once a ref called it incomplete it was impossible to overturn based on the views given. He said as much if it had been called complete it would have been upheld as well. There simply wasn't enough evidence to over turn the call either way.

This is essentially indisputable (which of course doesn't stop Panthers fans from saying "it never even touched the ground" over and over). Personally I think it's no catch either way (i.e. there is evidence in the replay that it's no catch), but regardless there's no way the call on the field gets overturned, plus with all that juggling before and after the ball touches the ground, I don't see how anyone can say that it should have been called a catch on the field.

The Talib offsides thing, the linesman responsible came up and definitively said. "He was not Offsides!" It was extremely close but the official responsible and with a clear line of site said that he wasn't so I'll take his word over the video views shown during the broadcast.

I watched this a few times yesterday and it was a pretty crappy low res video but going frame by frame he didn't look offsides to me. He starts moving but actually makes very little/no forward progress before the ball is snapped.

Yeah I watch the sound FX I don't know where you got this from but there was no fair catch at all from every angle i have seen.

The false starts thing amuses me because Cam has such a unique cadence it would be almost impossible to mimic on Sound FX they were calling audibles not cadences.

The listing basically call D Ware a dirty player which is an insult to a HOF player in my opinion. On top of the fact that it didn't happen.

As stated before defensive holding doesn't require the ball to be catchable as it is a pre-throw penalty.

They didn't call a block in the back on the punt return they called an illegal crack back block.

On the anderson stiff arm he never grabbed the face mask making it a legal stiff arm.

The Fumble to TD was an interesting/weird play but Von makes not attempt to strike Cam's helmet they do hit when Von attacks the football but it's hardly a roughing the passer call.

The second fumble- illegal batting it is required to definitively prove that he punched/batted the ball towards the Carolina Goal line. In the replay it looks as though Von is trying to scoop the ball. I think its a close line and they could have called batting. Either way because denver recovered it ultimately would have resulted in a 10 yard penalty following the recovery of the ball.

Roby probably should have been called for PI, but Refs are human. (hence the plethora of missed holds on our outside pass rushers.)

Really wherever you got this is trying to justify a conspiracy theory that the game was rigged.

Agreed on all counts. The batting one is really the only big call that is even debatable, and it's still not iron clad that the Panthers got screwed on it. If you're trying to scoop up the ball with your one free hand and can't get a grip on it it's obviously gonna go somewhere. Intent matters, and the only person that really got a good view of the play is the ref that didn't make the call.

[Rastic]

The illegal batting thing with Von is actually a funny idea. The Panthers are down by six so a TD and extra point would put them up by one. As soon as the ball comes lose and still in the pile all our defensive players were trying to secure the ball, not bat it back. Batting it back keep the ball live and the way those balls move could take a hop right back to a Carolina player keeping their drive alive. That would have been a bone-headed play on any defender's part. Secure the ball, that is what they are trained to do and what Von and others were trying at that point in the play.

When the ball did go back toward the endzone is when Ward attempted to pick it up and run with it - and it's like the ball gave him lead feet every time he had it.

[BHPizza]

Here's my unofficial list of penalties committed by the Panthers that were missed by the refs:

-Holding.....all over the place by the o-line, literally every single passing play.

Fortunately, Broncos players are used to it. They still played the game. Still owned that pathetic offensive line. Brought Scam Newton to his knees and made him cry like the little girl he is. Created a massive fallout of Panthers fans falling to their knees and crying like little girls too.

Anybody who actually pays attention to football could see what was coming a mile away. Again, THE PANTHERS WERE WAY OVERRATED!

[L.M.]

Here's my unofficial list of penalties committed by the Panthers that were missed by the refs:

-Holding.....all over the place by the o-line, literally every single passing play.

Fortunately, Broncos players are used to it. They still played the game. Still owned that pathetic offensive line. Brought Scam Newton to his knees and made him cry like the little girl he is. Created a massive fallout of Panthers fans falling to their knees and crying like little girls too.

Anybody who actually pays attention to football could see what was coming a mile away. Again, THE PANTHERS WERE WAY OVERRATED!

Sanders was held while the ball was in the air too. I don't have a pic of that yet though.

[L.M.]

The illegal batting thing with Von is actually a funny idea. The Panthers are down by six so a TD and extra point would put them up by one. As soon as the ball comes lose and still in the pile all our defensive players were trying to secure the ball, not bat it back. Batting it back keep the ball live and the way those balls move could take a hop right back to a Carolina player keeping their drive alive. That would have been a bone-headed play on any defender's part. Secure the ball, that is what they are trained to do and what Von and others were trying at that point in the play.

When the ball did go back toward the endzone is when Ward attempted to pick it up and run with it - and it's like the ball gave him lead feet every time he had it.

But the screenshots in this OP are pretty clear that he he is not trying to secure it for himself but scooping or moving the ball away from Cam's hand:

http://www.carolinahuddle.com/boards/topic/125815-nfl-turning-point-the-clete-blakeman-effect/?page=1

I think he was just simply trying to get the ball away from Cam and it had the net effect of a "bat" toward the endzone though that wasn't the intention, as if he were putting on the green! He was trying to pull it out and away. I think that's why it wasn't flagged as an intentional bat to the endzone.

Looking at it again from the proper angle slower than gamespeed, it doesnt look like a bat as Miller pulls it away from Cam and out of the pile in an arc. See it at 6:30 here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mfw21aJKn0

[FrankieGoes]

They're deleting all instances of this photo on the Panther's forum and continuing to insist the ball never touched the ground, rofl. So typical.

[The Dude's rug]

They're deleting all instances of this photo on the Panther's forum and continuing to insist the ball never touched the ground, rofl. So typical.

Those people on that board are a special kind of stupid.

[samparnell]

And you're already at the top? Not sure what NFL you've been watching and following this past season. If the Denver Broncos are an elite team then I must have missed that memo.

You mean the 24-10 one?

[ebsoria]

You mean the 24-10 one?

That was a GREAT memo!!!

[602BroncoFan]

1 7:23 1 10 CAR 15 Cam Newton pass incomplete deep middle intended for Jerricho Cotchery (defended by Darian Stewart). CAR challenged the incomplete pass ruling, and the play was upheld. 3 0
This should have been ruled a catch since none of the officials could see the ball hit the ground. Replay would have had to prove it was incomplete. Clete Blakeman was responsible for getting this right as the main official with the call was confused and the official calling it incomplete clear across the field could not see through the body of Cotchery.

1 6:34 3 10 CAR 15 Cam Newton sacked by Von Miller for -11 yards. Cam Newton fumbles (forced by Von Miller), recovered by Malik Jackson at CAR--1, touchdown 9 0
Von Miller led with hands to the Cam Newton's face in the pocket before going to strip the ball. This should have been a 15 yard personal foul penalty for a blow to the QBs head.

1 1:27 4 12 DEN 11 Britton Colquitt punts 47 yards, returned by Ted Ginn for -2 yards (tackle by Corey Nelson). Penalty on Teddy Williams: Illegal Block Above the Waist, 10 yards 10 0
This was not a block in the back. Ginn had fielded the punt at the 42 and the defender dove to try to trip Ginn up with his arm. The defender dives at the 42. The official short arms the flag to the 37 yard line as the spot of the foul. The penalty is 10 yards from the spot of the foul which places the Panthers at their own 27. Ginn ended up at the 41 on the tackle. The officials took 14 yards away from the Panthers when a call should have never been made and they made a bad spot.

2 11:25 1 10 DEN 20 Peyton Manning pass incomplete intended for Virgil Green. CAR challenged the incomplete pass ruling, and the play was overturned. Peyton Manning sacked byKony Ealy for -7 yards 10 7
Peyton should not have been allowed to continue the play and the refs allowed it. This was a major mistake as it used up the Panthers final challenge.

2 9:29 4 12 CAR 47 Brad Nortman punts 28 yards, returned by Jordan Norwood for 61 yards (tackle byMario Addison) 10 7
Norwood turns his back toward the official and walks to the sideline shielding his outside arm from view of the official in the end zone while he waits for the punt. After the punt is in the air, Norwood twists his body to square out with the Punt. While running forward he flails his left arm out to the side raising it to the level of his right shoulder. This is an illegal fair catch signal. This was seen by the Panthers gunners and they were confused. The officials missed the call.

2 6:28 2 10 DEN 40 C.J. Anderson right guard for 34 yards (tackle by Cortland Finnegan) 13 7
Anderson latches onto and pulls down on Finnegan's facemask to keep him from making the tackle. This allows for more yardage as Andeson runs out of bounds. The official had a clear line of sight on the hand in the facemask and the jerk of the head.

2 4:23 1 10 CAR 39 Cam Newton pass incomplete short right intended for Greg Olsen 13 7
Sylvester Williams runs around Norwell after Cam had thrown the ball and delivers a late hit and a blow to Cam Newton's head with the hand sending him to the ground with Malik Jackson pulling Cam to the ground. Cam had taken 3 to 4 casual steps after he had thrown the ball. This happens in front of Clete Blakeman.

2 1:26 2 7 CAR 22 Penalty on Michael Oher: False Start, 5 yards (no play) 13 7 0.07 -0.72 66.3
Von Miller simulates the snap count. Cam was using a delayed cadence. You can see the OTs looking down the line for the snap of the ball, and then Miller adds another 'hut' following Cam's. You can also see Miller's head bob forward when he does this pulling the OTs on both sides. Oher and Remmers both look at the official and plead their case, but the official did not notice it.

2 0:11 2 10 DEN 45 Cam Newton sacked by DeMarcus Ware for -10 yards 13 7
Demarcus Ware stomps on Cam Newton's knee after the sack by rearing his leg back and driving his knee into the side of Cam's knee.

3 13:41 1 10 DEN 35 Cam Newton pass incomplete 13 7
Demarcus Ware leg whips the back of Cam Newton's legs to take him down after Cam throws the ball away. This should be a personal foul. Clete Blakeman is 5 yards away from the play and casually walks by without even verbally warning Ware.

3 13:34 2 10 DEN 35 Fozzy Whittaker right tackle for 10 yards (tackle by Chris Harris and Brandon Marshall). Penalty on Trai Turner: Unnecessary Roughness, 15 yards 13 7
Trai Turner was blocking his man on the play. Turner's defender was on the ground as the whistle blew. The officials threw the flag and penalized the Panthers for hitting a player after the whistle. You can pause the video when the whistle blows and Trai is not engaged with any defender.

3 11:00 3 11 DEN 26 Cam Newton pass incomplete short right intended for Greg Olsen 13 7
Philly Brown turns Roby and beats him. Roby reaches out to pull Brown back to him. The official throws a flag for defensive holding. Clete Blakeman speaks with him and overrules him due to being away from the play. They pick up the flag. This call is understandable, but it favors the Broncos and highlights the penalties against the Panthers Clete Blakeman refused to overturn eventhough he knew what the correct call was suppose to be.

3 10:54 4 11 DEN 26 Graham Gano 44 yard field goal no good 13 7
Offsides on Talib not called. Official is adamant he was not offsides. Clete Blakeman acknowledges to Norman he saw the offsides but it is not his responsibility to call the penalty.

3 5:57 2 10 DEN 28 Cam Newton pass incomplete deep middle intended for Ted Ginn is intercepted byT.J. Ward at DEN-10 and returned for 4 yards. T.J. Ward fumbles (forced by Mike Tolbert), recovered by Danny Trevathan at DEN-7 16 7
On the fumble by Ward, both Trevathan and Ginn have dual possession of the ball. Trevathan begins to forcibly slam his knee into Ginn's side and then rears his leg back again to slam his knee into the side of Ginn's head to get him to release the ball. This should have been a personal foul penalty. Multiple officials stood around them and let Trevathan knee Ginn in the head. Not even a warning to Trevathan for an offense that should get him suspended. This was worse than the act by Talib on Brown.

4 10:55 3 4 DEN 16 Penalty on Michael Oher: False Start, 5 yards (no play) 16 7
The Broncos simulate the snap again on a delayed cadence by Cam. It catches both OTs again. Brandon Marshall simulates the snap. Michael Oher protests again, but the refs claim it did not happen.

4 8:21 2 9 CAR 29 Penalty on Mike Remmers: False Start, 5 yards (no play) 16 10
The Broncos simulate the snap again on a delayed cadence. This time Trevathen simulates the snap.

4 4:16 3 9 CAR 25 Cam Newton sacked by Von Miller for -9 yards. Cam Newton fumbles (forced by Von Miller), recovered by T.J. Ward at CAR-9 and returned for 5 yards (tackle by Mike Remmers) 16 10
Illegal batting of the ball by Von Miller in front of Clete Blakeman. Should be 1st and 10 at the 35 for the Panthers.

4 3:17 3 4 CAR 4 Peyton Manning pass incomplete short right intended for Demaryius Thomas. Penalty on Josh Norman: Defensive Holding, 2 yards (no play)
This was not a holding penalty on Norman and Thomas slipped after pulling on Norman to get around him. The ball was also uncatchable. This would have been a FG attempt, but the officials gave the Broncos a fresh set of downs. Considering all the physical PI the Broncos got away with and I did not include as bad calls, this is a ridiculous call that fails to carry the same standard of officiating they have been using throughout the game.

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The officiating had 18 bad or missed calls in the game. 17 went against the Panthers and 1 went in favor of the Broncos. There were no bad or missed calls that went against the Broncos all game. They picked up the flag on what would have been the one bad call on the Broncos. I did not include the judgement calls of holding and pass interference. The one PI I listed was to illustrate the lack of consistency in officiating between the two teams.

Feel free to check out the plays as the times are listed.

If you log on to the NFL website, there is a link where you can file an officiating claim. The adjusters will review it. Upon review of your observations there's a a chance they will call the Broncos, take the trophy back, and give it to the Panthers.

While you're there, you can also submit a resume to become an NFL official. Hope this helps.

[Spice 1]

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The officiating had 18 bad or missed calls in the game. 17 went against the Panthers and 1 went in favor of the Broncos. There were no bad or missed calls that went against the Broncos all game. They picked up the flag on what would have been the one bad call on the Broncos. I did not include the judgement calls of holding and pass interference. The one PI I listed was to illustrate the lack of consistency in officiating between the two teams.

Feel free to check out the plays as the times are listed.

18 bad calls?



Illuminati confirmed.

You think this guy is obnoxious? I saw a Steelers fan today say that the game was rigged. Apparently he forgot that he's a Steelers fan.

[The Dude's rug]

1 7:23 1 10 CAR 15 Cam Newton pass incomplete deep middle intended for Jerricho Cotchery (defended by Darian Stewart). CAR challenged the incomplete pass ruling, and the play was upheld. 3 0
This should have been ruled a catch since none of the officials could see the ball hit the ground. Replay would have had to prove it was incomplete. Clete Blakeman was responsible for getting this right as the main official with the call was confused and the official calling it incomplete clear across the field could not see through the body of Cotchery.

1 6:34 3 10 CAR 15 Cam Newton sacked by Von Miller for -11 yards. Cam Newton fumbles (forced by Von Miller), recovered by Malik Jackson at CAR--1, touchdown 9 0
Von Miller led with hands to the Cam Newton's face in the pocket before going to strip the ball. This should have been a 15 yard personal foul penalty for a blow to the QBs head.

1 1:27 4 12 DEN 11 Britton Colquitt punts 47 yards, returned by Ted Ginn for -2 yards (tackle by Corey Nelson). Penalty on Teddy Williams: Illegal Block Above the Waist, 10 yards 10 0
This was not a block in the back. Ginn had fielded the punt at the 42 and the defender dove to try to trip Ginn up with his arm. The defender dives at the 42. The official short arms the flag to the 37 yard line as the spot of the foul. The penalty is 10 yards from the spot of the foul which places the Panthers at their own 27. Ginn ended up at the 41 on the tackle. The officials took 14 yards away from the Panthers when a call should have never been made and they made a bad spot.

2 11:25 1 10 DEN 20 Peyton Manning pass incomplete intended for Virgil Green. CAR challenged the incomplete pass ruling, and the play was overturned. Peyton Manning sacked byKony Ealy for -7 yards 10 7
Peyton should not have been allowed to continue the play and the refs allowed it. This was a major mistake as it used up the Panthers final challenge.

2 9:29 4 12 CAR 47 Brad Nortman punts 28 yards, returned by Jordan Norwood for 61 yards (tackle byMario Addison) 10 7
Norwood turns his back toward the official and walks to the sideline shielding his outside arm from view of the official in the end zone while he waits for the punt. After the punt is in the air, Norwood twists his body to square out with the Punt. While running forward he flails his left arm out to the side raising it to the level of his right shoulder. This is an illegal fair catch signal. This was seen by the Panthers gunners and they were confused. The officials missed the call.

2 6:28 2 10 DEN 40 C.J. Anderson right guard for 34 yards (tackle by Cortland Finnegan) 13 7
Anderson latches onto and pulls down on Finnegan's facemask to keep him from making the tackle. This allows for more yardage as Andeson runs out of bounds. The official had a clear line of sight on the hand in the facemask and the jerk of the head.

2 4:23 1 10 CAR 39 Cam Newton pass incomplete short right intended for Greg Olsen 13 7
Sylvester Williams runs around Norwell after Cam had thrown the ball and delivers a late hit and a blow to Cam Newton's head with the hand sending him to the ground with Malik Jackson pulling Cam to the ground. Cam had taken 3 to 4 casual steps after he had thrown the ball. This happens in front of Clete Blakeman.

2 1:26 2 7 CAR 22 Penalty on Michael Oher: False Start, 5 yards (no play) 13 7 0.07 -0.72 66.3
Von Miller simulates the snap count. Cam was using a delayed cadence. You can see the OTs looking down the line for the snap of the ball, and then Miller adds another 'hut' following Cam's. You can also see Miller's head bob forward when he does this pulling the OTs on both sides. Oher and Remmers both look at the official and plead their case, but the official did not notice it.

2 0:11 2 10 DEN 45 Cam Newton sacked by DeMarcus Ware for -10 yards 13 7
Demarcus Ware stomps on Cam Newton's knee after the sack by rearing his leg back and driving his knee into the side of Cam's knee.

3 13:41 1 10 DEN 35 Cam Newton pass incomplete 13 7
Demarcus Ware leg whips the back of Cam Newton's legs to take him down after Cam throws the ball away. This should be a personal foul. Clete Blakeman is 5 yards away from the play and casually walks by without even verbally warning Ware.

3 13:34 2 10 DEN 35 Fozzy Whittaker right tackle for 10 yards (tackle by Chris Harris and Brandon Marshall). Penalty on Trai Turner: Unnecessary Roughness, 15 yards 13 7
Trai Turner was blocking his man on the play. Turner's defender was on the ground as the whistle blew. The officials threw the flag and penalized the Panthers for hitting a player after the whistle. You can pause the video when the whistle blows and Trai is not engaged with any defender.

3 11:00 3 11 DEN 26 Cam Newton pass incomplete short right intended for Greg Olsen 13 7
Philly Brown turns Roby and beats him. Roby reaches out to pull Brown back to him. The official throws a flag for defensive holding. Clete Blakeman speaks with him and overrules him due to being away from the play. They pick up the flag. This call is understandable, but it favors the Broncos and highlights the penalties against the Panthers Clete Blakeman refused to overturn eventhough he knew what the correct call was suppose to be.

3 10:54 4 11 DEN 26 Graham Gano 44 yard field goal no good 13 7
Offsides on Talib not called. Official is adamant he was not offsides. Clete Blakeman acknowledges to Norman he saw the offsides but it is not his responsibility to call the penalty.

3 5:57 2 10 DEN 28 Cam Newton pass incomplete deep middle intended for Ted Ginn is intercepted byT.J. Ward at DEN-10 and returned for 4 yards. T.J. Ward fumbles (forced by Mike Tolbert), recovered by Danny Trevathan at DEN-7 16 7
On the fumble by Ward, both Trevathan and Ginn have dual possession of the ball. Trevathan begins to forcibly slam his knee into Ginn's side and then rears his leg back again to slam his knee into the side of Ginn's head to get him to release the ball. This should have been a personal foul penalty. Multiple officials stood around them and let Trevathan knee Ginn in the head. Not even a warning to Trevathan for an offense that should get him suspended. This was worse than the act by Talib on Brown.

4 10:55 3 4 DEN 16 Penalty on Michael Oher: False Start, 5 yards (no play) 16 7
The Broncos simulate the snap again on a delayed cadence by Cam. It catches both OTs again. Brandon Marshall simulates the snap. Michael Oher protests again, but the refs claim it did not happen.

4 8:21 2 9 CAR 29 Penalty on Mike Remmers: False Start, 5 yards (no play) 16 10
The Broncos simulate the snap again on a delayed cadence. This time Trevathen simulates the snap.

4 4:16 3 9 CAR 25 Cam Newton sacked by Von Miller for -9 yards. Cam Newton fumbles (forced by Von Miller), recovered by T.J. Ward at CAR-9 and returned for 5 yards (tackle by Mike Remmers) 16 10
Illegal batting of the ball by Von Miller in front of Clete Blakeman. Should be 1st and 10 at the 35 for the Panthers.

4 3:17 3 4 CAR 4 Peyton Manning pass incomplete short right intended for Demaryius Thomas. Penalty on Josh Norman: Defensive Holding, 2 yards (no play)
This was not a holding penalty on Norman and Thomas slipped after pulling on Norman to get around him. The ball was also uncatchable. This would have been a FG attempt, but the officials gave the Broncos a fresh set of downs. Considering all the physical PI the Broncos got away with and I did not include as bad calls, this is a ridiculous call that fails to carry the same standard of officiating they have been using throughout the game.

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The officiating had 18 bad or missed calls in the game. 17 went against the Panthers and 1 went in favor of the Broncos. There were no bad or missed calls that went against the Broncos all game. They picked up the flag on what would have been the one bad call on the Broncos. I did not include the judgement calls of holding and pass interference. The one PI I listed was to illustrate the lack of consistency in officiating between the two teams.

Feel free to check out the plays as the times are listed.

Get real.

The pass to Corchery hit the ground and was bobbled, easy incomplete ruling.

I've watched the missed FG play frame by frame and he was not offsides.

Most of this list is wussy whining by a fan of a team that was clearly outplayed. It seems Panther fans wanted a penalty every time the Broncos made a play. That MB you got this from is a joke.

The better, tougher and more battle tested team won fair and square.

[MHSalute]

They're deleting all instances of this photo on the Panther's forum and continuing to insist the ball never touched the ground, rofl. So typical.

This one was so easy, I never understood the debate. He did have his hand under the ball until his momentum moved forward, tip of ball hit ground and came loose...easy, and correct call.

[MHSalute]

The unsportsmanlike conduct call was a joke. Talib was on HIS sideline, no need for the ref to throw a flag on Talib when it is the Panther player hanging around our sideline jawing with Talib. Yes Talib took his helmet off...ON THE SIDELINE, where he is allowed too.

2nd joke call was the late hit on Cam when he was running.

[RDAvena]

Now Von Miller is just torturing/trolling the Panthers fanbase:

Von Miller acknowledges illegally batting ball in Super Bowl