Tebow Exposed

[BoilerVette]

Tebow can expect a steady diet of the type of defense played by the opposition the past few weeks. The lucky breaks (on-side kick recoveries, RB's running out of bounds, Opposition turnovers while they have the lead) have run out. You don't need a spectacular defense (i.e. Buffalo) to beat Tebow, just one that defends using a few simple rules:

1. Hit Tebow when he runs the option
2. Keep him in the pocket and actually make him play QB
3. Play man coverage even if you have the lead
4. Remember he is left handed and rush him from HIS blind side
5. He stares down his intended receiver so have the FS play where he is looking

He is not an NFL QB until he learns the fundamentals he should have learned in high school and college.

[CoryWinget81]

Prepared to be flamed.

I'll add that Tebow took a step forward and took two steps back. He's not reading, he's locking on to one WR, and our offensive scheme apparently isn't very kind to inaccurate, slow reading QB's.

We might not ever see a zone D for the rest of the year.

[Wolf Brother]

Tebow can expect a steady diet of the type of defense played by the opposition the past few weeks. The lucky breaks (on-side kick recoveries, RB's running out of bounds, Opposition turnovers while they have the lead) have run out. You don't need a spectacular defense (i.e. Buffalo) to beat Tebow, just one that defends using a few simple rules:

1. Hit Tebow when he runs the option
2. Keep him in the pocket and actually make him play QB
3. Play man coverage even if you have the lead
4. Remember he is left handed and rush him from HIS blind side
5. He stares down his intended receiver so have the FS play where he is looking

He is not an NFL QB until he learns the fundamentals he should have learned in high school and college.

Nope. Defense got exposed. The two turnovers were on Tebow, but that's after the realization that hope had left the building every time the defense took the field.

[Alastor]

... Our offensive scheme apparently isn't very kind to inaccurate, slow reading QB's.

Can you tell me one that is?

[CoryWinget81]

Nope. Defense got exposed. The two turnovers were on Tebow, but that's after the realization that hope had left the building every time the defense took the field.

The two turnovers? You mean the two PICK SIX's? Defense surrendered less than 20 points. Tebow singlehandedly gave them 14 and was directly responsible for 3 more. Offense basically went three and out the whole game.

No, you're right. Defense got exposed.

Can you tell me one that is?

Sarcasm at its finest. You know me, imagine my eyes rolling when I said that.

[BroncoDonko]

Lol. The Bills didn't do anything special defensively.

Through the first 42 minutes of the game, Tebow was 6-11 passing for 83 yards and a touchdown.

Over the last 18 minutes, he threw four picks and made more bad decisions than he'd made in his previous 10 games and 220 pass attempts.

18 minutes is not a trend.

Remember when Elway got exposed against Kansas City in the second to last game of his rookie year? He never recovered from that one. The league had figured him out.

[BoilerVette]

Wholeheartedly Agree!!!

Tebow has been getting way too much credit (He's the only QB to go 6-1, etc.) for the TEAM'S victories - which is what I have been saying all along! QB "Won-Loss" statistic is meaningless unless you put it in perspective. Putting 14 points on the board and still winning the game reflects the success of the defense NOT the offense!

[Alastor]

Nope. Defense got exposed. The two turnovers were on Tebow, but that's after the realization that hope had left the building every time the defense took the field.

If the recap logs I'm looking at are accurate, here's what they show:

Tebow threw two pick-sixes. There's 14 points. Another of Tebow's INTs led to a field goal. There's 20 points.

Tebow's INTs alone amounted to more points than our offense scored all day. His INTs alone accounted for half the points we gave up on the day.

Special teams gave up a punt return for a TD. There's 7 more points.

Now I'm no math wizard, but even if everything else went perfectly for the offense and special teams, that means the defense gave up 13 points.

Tebow alone gave up more points than our defense did.


Additionally, CJ Spiller rushed for 111 yards. He can run rampant on a lot of teams, but our defense held him to 111 yards and 1 TD, despite 5 out of 6 drives in the first half being three-and-outs.

That's not just impressive. That's downright amazing.

It's an egregiously bad job of analysis to say the defense collapsed in this game. Rather the appropriate interpretation would probably be that the offense and special teams placed way too much pressure on the defense after those two units imploded in what might best be described as an NFL version of the Titanic, if it had a nuclear reactor on it that exploded when it hit the iceberg.

In reasonable circumstances, such as them actually being present on the field, the defense only gave up 13 points. There were 40 points scored.

[LarryDean]

How did he get exposed more so then what we're already aware of ? I think the Broncos got exposed the last couple of weeks ..

Tebow is an NFL QB who that plays up to everyone's expectations both positive and negative ...

I guess I don't understand the title of thread other then it served its intended purpose .... Honestly the first thing that came to mind was the Broncos game vs the Ravens in '09 .... I just felt dirty after that ...

[// / yardo]

Tebow has been getting way too much credit (He's the only QB to go 6-1, etc.) for the TEAM'S victories - which is what I have been saying all along! QB "Won-Loss" statistic is meaningless unless you put it in perspective. Putting 14 points on the board and still winning the game reflects the success of the defense NOT the offense!

So using that same logic doesn't that put the loss on the team and not solely on the quarterback?

Let's be honest, the entire team looked bad and Tebow finally had his implosion game. Knowing that, we're still in it. And if I've learned anything about this team is you can't count them out, especially when adversity arises.

[vcooper3]

I see all wins and losses by the team as a team effort. It's not all on one player and it's not all on one aspect of the team (defense, ST, offense).

All 3 phases of the team have been exposed recently, not just one player.

[Apoc13]

Tebow has been getting way too much credit (He's the only QB to go 6-1, etc.) for the TEAM'S victories - which is what I have been saying all along! QB "Won-Loss" statistic is meaningless unless you put it in perspective. Putting 14 points on the board and still winning the game reflects the success of the defense NOT the offense!

every qb to ever play the game gets too much credit when the team wins and too much blame when the team loses

the team was winning because tebow wasn;t turning the ball over....now he is and they're losing...so he does have a quite a bit to do with the team winning and losing

but it's a team game...when tebow turns it over the def needs to make a stop....and when the def holds, tebow needs to put points up...and neither is happening over the last couple games

[elecshoc]

That wasn't a team getting exposed. If you look at the way the Broncos play football ball control is the key. Well turnovers meaning your not controlling the ball. It's simple really, as long as the Broncos keep the ball the better.

It's simple football logic 101, don't turn the ball over.

If they do that during the Chiefs game they'll be ok.

[xOrangeCrushx]

STOP comparing Tebow to Elway, it's almost 30 years ago. The game is way different and rather insulting to John IMO

You compare him to Elway insinuating one day Tebow will be as good as Elway. Which is more than ridiculous.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

Personally, I think we stunk in all 3 phases.

Our D gave up 350 yards in 28 minutes. They gave up over 100 yards to Spiller on less than 20 carries. Spiller averaged 6.9 ypc, which is on the border of domination. In fact, we are the first team all season to give up 100 yards to Spiller on the ground.

We can't sustain drives, which is a combination of problems. We are inexperienced in almost every phase of the game.

We can't generate a lot of points.

Regarding turnovers, we give up a lot, and can't generate any. We haven't generated a turnover since the Chicago game. Even though we have a pretty good pass rush, we are near the bottom of the league in INT's.

I'd go so far as to say that without Dawkins or a healthy Miller we should be the underdogs this coming weekend.