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i have never argued that the chargers franchise has been better than the broncos but i am 100% spot on with my statement that nobody embarrasses themselves in the playoffs like Denver does.....NOBODY!
the broncos embarrassment legacy in the playoffs is second to none.
by the way, manning's one ring is overshadowed by a long shot by his choking legacy. a QB his caliber should have 4-6 rings the amount of times he has been to the playoffs.
not to mention the times his teams have gone one and done after dominating in the regular season.
But surely Manning putting his team up late only to have a hail mary completed while he was on the sidelines, somehow counts as him losing the game. And of course every other playoff loss is his fault while every win was his teammates bailing him out.
I thought you were brighter than this, evidently I gave you way too much credit.Comment
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http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-top100...-33-Von-Miller waiting for Ingrams spot on the list... all those "flashes" and "hurries" have got to make up for his lack of any real production right?Originally posted by baphametare you talking career or right now? because i don't see how you can say manning is top 5 even healthy.dude will never be a top 5 QB again, he is done.Comment
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http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-top100...-33-Von-Miller waiting for Ingrams spot on the list... all those "flashes" and "hurries" have got to make up for his lack of any real production right?Comment
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http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-top100...-33-Von-Miller waiting for Ingrams spot on the list... all those "flashes" and "hurries" have got to make up for his lack of any real production right?Comment
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It's almost as if football is a team game and you need all of the 46 players that are active on game day, to perform at a level capable of winning.
But surely Manning putting his team up late only to have a hail mary completed while he was on the sidelines, somehow counts as him losing the game. And of course every other playoff loss is his fault while every win was his teammates bailing him out.
I thought you were brighter than this, evidently I gave you way too much credit.
but do continue to make excuses if it makes you feel better.Comment
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Last edited by Beagle; 06-21-2015, 07:28 PM.Originally posted by baphametare you talking career or right now? because i don't see how you can say manning is top 5 even healthy.dude will never be a top 5 QB again, he is done.Comment
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i have never argued that the chargers franchise has been better than the broncos but i am 100% spot on with my statement that nobody embarrasses themselves in the playoffs like Denver does.....NOBODY!
the broncos embarrassment legacy in the playoffs is second to none.
by the way, manning's one ring is overshadowed by a long shot by his choking legacy. a QB his caliber should have 4-6 rings the amount of times he has been to the playoffs.
not to mention the times his teams have gone one and done after dominating in the regular season.
Manning just like Elway lead teams to the playoffs and Superbowl that other qb's couldn't even get to .500.
What happen in Indy when Manning left?
2-14! How bout Denver after Elway walked away Superbowl MVP? They didn't when a playoff game for 7 years.
Rivers with a HOF Running back & TE Pro bowl lineman and a top defense accomplished nothing. Elway, and Manning win Superbowls wirh that group and the same group Fouts had in the early 80'ssigpicComment
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oh and i can prove you wrong because the thread isn't about ingram's lack of production at all, you guys went off topic and turned it into that and that is a fact
i have already given you my take on ingram 1000 times. i have already said i think he has not lived up to where he was drafted. ive already said he is approaching bust status but he has a chance because when healthy we have seen flashes of dominance and i have even shown you an ESPN writer who covers the chargers exclusively who echoed my words.
why does it need to be repeated over and over?Comment
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if he gets injured again this year and misses significant time again, then it's nice knowing you ingram, good luck with your new team next year.
but if not? he has a real chance to have a good year and prove that he has the ability to dominate. those of us who watch every single chargers game have seen "flashes" of it.
which is why he is not hated like some of the other players that just flat out stink up the joint like kendall reyes.Comment
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Quarter backs like Manning, Elway, Marino, Montana and Brady make everybody around them better.
Manning just like Elway lead teams to the playoffs and Superbowl that other qb's couldn't even get to .500.
What happen in Indy when Manning left?
2-14! How bout Denver after Elway walked away Superbowl MVP? They didn't when a playoff game for 7 years.
Rivers with a HOF Running back & TE Pro bowl lineman and a top defense accomplished nothing. Elway, and Manning win Superbowls wirh that group and the same group Fouts had in the early 80's
You have to use your imagination.Pretend if you can some way that Manning actually has won more playoff games than Rivers has played in....oh wait thats reality.
Uh Manning has lead the league in almost superbowls every season he has been in the league..Flashing his greatness while deliberately not running the ball any time he wants.Thats to keep from embarrassing the likes Of Vick, Young Cunningham and other guys who think they can run. Manning is a running back playing QB..His dad makes him stay in the pocket so nobody ever figures out he is actually Superman! FACT!
See now thats how Baph thinks you win...just make up random things claim them as facts and declaire youtself the winner :thumb:Originally posted by baphametare you talking career or right now? because i don't see how you can say manning is top 5 even healthy.dude will never be a top 5 QB again, he is done.Comment
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You have taken it off topic many times I always get it back on..
I really don't know why mine and a few other guys personal preference between Rivers and Smith seems to bother you so.. I prefer a Mobile QB who takes care of the ball over a turnover prone stiff. Now please cry more about it.
Ingram is a Bust Prove me wrong!Last edited by Beagle; 06-21-2015, 09:44 PM.Originally posted by baphametare you talking career or right now? because i don't see how you can say manning is top 5 even healthy.dude will never be a top 5 QB again, he is done.Comment
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Quarter backs like Manning, Elway, Marino, Montana and Brady make everybody around them better.
Manning just like Elway lead teams to the playoffs and Superbowl that other qb's couldn't even get to .500.
What happen in Indy when Manning left?
2-14! How bout Denver after Elway walked away Superbowl MVP? They didn't when a playoff game for 7 years.
Rivers with a HOF Running back & TE Pro bowl lineman and a top defense accomplished nothing. Elway, and Manning win Superbowls wirh that group and the same group Fouts had in the early 80's
the only ring manning has won is one of the few times his team didn't have a lot of hype going into the playoffs, he didn't have all the pressure on him and his team to perform. which i would argue is the main factor in what causes some players and teams to choke.
but not only that, look at who they beat to win that ring? who was the QB again? was it kyle orton or wrecks grossman? i forget.
manning and the broncos had the best offense in the history of the NFL and got embarrassed in the SB........so don't talk to me about making players around you better.
that may be true but he doesn't make the players around him better in the playoffs for some reason, wonder why?Comment
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When you quote thishttp://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-top100...-33-Von-Miller waiting for Ingrams spot on the list... all those "flashes" and "hurries" have got to make up for his lack of any real production right?
It is clearly deflectingOriginally posted by baphametare you talking career or right now? because i don't see how you can say manning is top 5 even healthy.dude will never be a top 5 QB again, he is done.Comment
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