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  • Originally posted by baphamet View Post
    LMAO!!!! so chubb is already considered an elite outside pass rusher?? also, the broncos have spent 3 first round draft picks on their outside pass rush, two of those picks top 5....if the broncos don't have the best outside pass rush in the league it should be considered a failure.
    Well perhaps Chubb can’t be considered elite at the moment because he has yet to play an NFL snap however it isn’t going to take him 4 years to actually amount to something like it has Ingram and even worse, I think we’ve already witnessed Ingram’s ceiling.

    Von Miller won super bowl MVP while Ingram has most likely already seen his best days in the league.

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    • Originally posted by baphamet View Post
      ingram's problem was mainly he couldn't say healthy. people that actually watched the dude play seen the "flashes"m of dominance and you ignorant donk fans ignored it and tried to talk smack about my "flashes" comments because you're football ignorant and only know sack totals.

      what changed is ingram changed his diet and lost some weight, which helped him stay healthy and helped his speed too.
      I said he turned out to be a good player, despite taking 4seasons, but he is not on Vons level.
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      • Originally posted by Sam_Z View Post
        Well perhaps Chubb can’t be considered elite at the moment because he has yet to play an NFL snap however it isn’t going to take him 4 years to actually amount to something like it has Ingram and even worse, I think we’ve already witnessed Ingram’s ceiling.

        Von Miller won super bowl MVP while Ingram has most likely already seen his best days in the league.
        ingram has been dominating and you act like he sucks



        ingram had 76 pressures to von millers league leading 84...........with a half sack more. not bad for a player you all hated on and made fun of his short arms.

        guess that means ingram was the more efficient pass rusher last year according to broncos fans? since sack totals is all that matters?

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        • Originally posted by 58Miller View Post
          I said he turned out to be a good player, despite taking 4seasons, but he is not on Vons level.
          i was just giving my thoughts as to why that happened. it wasn't because he wasn't playing well, he was getting hurt and his speed wasn't as good as it is now due to playing lighter.

          that was the best thing he ever did and no, i don't think any outside speed rusher is on von's level but ingram isn't far off.

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          • Originally posted by baphamet View Post
            ingram has been dominating and you act like he sucks



            ingram had 76 pressures to von millers league leading 84...........with a half sack more. not bad for a player you all hated on and made fun of his short arms.

            guess that means ingram was the more efficient pass rusher last year according to broncos fans? since sack totals is all that matters?
            I didn’t say he was a bad player. I said it has taken him years and now when he is finally amounting to something, he’s already 29 years old!

            Soon he’ll be over the hill and he will have nothing to show for his NFL career.

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            • Originally posted by Sam_Z View Post
              I didn’t say he was a bad player. I said it has taken him years and now when he is finally amounting to something, he’s already 29 years old!

              Soon he’ll be over the hill and he will have nothing to show for his NFL career.
              good thing his teams window seems to be opening then, huh?

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              • Originally posted by baphamet View Post
                good thing his teams window seems to be opening then, huh?
                Lmao you say that every single year with nothing to back up your claims. Yes your team looks good on paper I get it but until they actually do something your empty threats of them actually becoming relevant are meaningless.

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                • Originally posted by Sam_Z View Post
                  Lmao you say that every single year with nothing to back up your claims. Yes your team looks good on paper I get it but until they actually do something your empty threats of them actually becoming relevant are meaningless.
                  That window isn’t gonna fully open if they go 1-6 vs playoff teams again.
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                  • Originally posted by baphamet View Post
                    good thing his teams window seems to be opening then, huh?
                    Not with shot-put Phil slinging the rock. The Chargers won't win because they have a loser at QB. If he were going to lead them to a Super Bowl he would have done it in all those years they were touted as "the NFL's most talented roster" yet all they have to show for that is 1 AFC Championship game appearance.

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                    • Originally posted by Sam_Z View Post
                      Lmao you say that every single year with nothing to back up your claims. Yes your team looks good on paper I get it but until they actually do something your empty threats of them actually becoming relevant are meaningless.
                      wth are you talking about? i do not say that every year

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                      • Originally posted by Butler By'Note View Post
                        Not with shot-put Phil slinging the rock. The Chargers won't win because they have a loser at QB. If he were going to lead them to a Super Bowl he would have done it in all those years they were touted as "the NFL's most talented roster" yet all they have to show for that is 1 AFC Championship game appearance.
                        there was one single year they were considered to have the best roster in the NFL by many, in 2006, his first season as a starter. in fact, that is the only year i can think of whee they have been considered the bets team with the best roster in the NFL since i became a fan in the early 80's.

                        it's funny you call him a loser when he is ranked #14 all time in wins

                        there are multiple HOF QB's with less wins than phil.

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                        • Originally posted by baphamet View Post
                          there was one single year they were considered to have the best roster in the NFL by many, in 2006, his first season as a starter. in fact, that is the only year i can think of whee they have been considered the bets team with the best roster in the NFL since i became a fan in the early 80's.

                          it's funny you call him a loser when he is ranked #14 all time in wins

                          there are multiple HOF QB's with less wins than phil.
                          and they had the same roster in 2007 and 2008 for the most part, so
                          as for QBs rivers has more wins than these HOF qbs

                          troy aikmen
                          3× Super Bowl champion (XXVII, XXVIII, XXX),
                          Super Bowl MVP (XXVII)
                          6× Pro Bowl (1991–1996)
                          Walter Payton NFL Man of the Year (1997)


                          warren moon
                          9× Pro Bowl (1988–1995, 1997)
                          First-team All-Pro (1990)
                          NEA NFL Most Valuable Player (1990)
                          NFL Offensive Player of the Year (1990)
                          AFC Player of the Year (1990)
                          Pro Bowl MVP (1998)
                          NFL Man of the Year (1989)
                          Bart Starr Man of the Year Award (1994)
                          2× NFL passing yards leader (1990, 1991)
                          NFL passing touchdowns leader (1990)
                          Tennessee Titans No. 1 retired
                          CFL
                          5× Grey Cup champion (1978–1982)
                          2× Grey Cup MVP (1980, 1982)
                          CFL Most Outstanding Player (1983)
                          Jeff Nicklin Memorial Trophy (1983)
                          Edmonton Eskimos Wall of Honour

                          ken stabler
                          Super Bowl champion (XI)
                          NFL Most Valuable Player (1974
                          )
                          4× Pro Bowl (1973, 1974, 1976, 1977)
                          2× First-team All-Pro (1974, 1976)
                          Bert Bell Award (1976)
                          NFL Offensive Player of the Year (1974)
                          2× NFL passing touchdowns leader (1974, 1976)
                          NFL passer rating leader (1976)
                          NFL 1970s All-Decade Team


                          bart starr
                          2× Super Bowl champion (I, II)
                          2× Super Bowl MVP (I, II)
                          5× NFL champion (1961, 1962, 1965–1967)
                          4× Pro Bowl (1960–1962, 1966)
                          First-team All-Pro (1966)
                          2× Second-team All-Pro (1962, 1964)
                          NFL Most Valuable Player (1966)
                          5× NFL passer rating leader (1962, 1964, 1966, 1968, 1969)
                          NFL 1960s All-Decade Team


                          steve young
                          3× Super Bowl champion (XXIII, XXIV, XXIX)
                          Super Bowl MVP (XXIX)
                          7× Pro Bowl (1992–1998)
                          3× First-team All-Pro (1992–1994)
                          3× Second-team All-Pro (1995, 1997, 1998)
                          2× NFL Most Valuable Player (1992, 1994)
                          2× Bert Bell Award (1992, 1994)
                          NFL Offensive Player of the Year (1992)
                          2× NFC Offensive Player of the Year (1992, 1994)
                          4× NFL passing touchdowns leader (1992–1994, 1998)
                          6× NFL passer rating leader (1991–1994, 1996, 1997

                          so ya rivers may have more wins...but no post season success, no MVPs , no SB mvps

                          just a good qb in the regular season, not great...just good
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                          when do native Americans become human and not mascots

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                          • Originally posted by baphamet View Post
                            wth are you talking about? i do not say that every year
                            Excuse me you may not say their window is opening in those exact words but you still say it every year in here since you've signed on here.

                            "wth am I talking about"? The fact that you're in here causing a ruckus every single year about how good the dead bolts are going to be. Yes you do to say it every year.

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                            • Originally posted by Sam_Z View Post
                              Excuse me you may not say their window is opening in those exact words but you still say it every year in here since you've signed on here.

                              "wth am I talking about"? The fact that you're in here causing a ruckus every single year about how good the dead bolts are going to be. Yes you do to say it every year.
                              most of the "ruckus" i cause is by saying mean things about the donks, it's really pretty easy to ruffle feathers around here just by having an opinion.

                              i haven't said the chargers will make noise in the playoffs in years. the only things i have said is they have talent and are more well rounded than the broncos or will compete for the division.

                              none of that you can say is anywhere near saying their window to get to the big game is open. sitting here right now, if the chargers don't reach the playoffs and make noise when there, the season will be a failure.

                              again, haven't said that in years but i'm saying it now. if you think i'm lying and do boast about the chargers making noise in the playoffs every year or boast about it being their year every season, you shouldn't have a problem finding the posts and showing me.

                              good luck!

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                              • Originally posted by arapaho View Post
                                and they had the same roster in 2007 and 2008 for the most part, so
                                as for QBs rivers has more wins than these HOF qbs

                                troy aikmen
                                3× Super Bowl champion (XXVII, XXVIII, XXX),
                                Super Bowl MVP (XXVII)
                                6× Pro Bowl (1991–1996)
                                Walter Payton NFL Man of the Year (1997)


                                warren moon
                                9× Pro Bowl (1988–1995, 1997)
                                First-team All-Pro (1990)
                                NEA NFL Most Valuable Player (1990)
                                NFL Offensive Player of the Year (1990)
                                AFC Player of the Year (1990)
                                Pro Bowl MVP (1998)
                                NFL Man of the Year (1989)
                                Bart Starr Man of the Year Award (1994)
                                2× NFL passing yards leader (1990, 1991)
                                NFL passing touchdowns leader (1990)
                                Tennessee Titans No. 1 retired
                                CFL
                                5× Grey Cup champion (1978–1982)
                                2× Grey Cup MVP (1980, 1982)
                                CFL Most Outstanding Player (1983)
                                Jeff Nicklin Memorial Trophy (1983)
                                Edmonton Eskimos Wall of Honour

                                ken stabler
                                Super Bowl champion (XI)
                                NFL Most Valuable Player (1974
                                )
                                4× Pro Bowl (1973, 1974, 1976, 1977)
                                2× First-team All-Pro (1974, 1976)
                                Bert Bell Award (1976)
                                NFL Offensive Player of the Year (1974)
                                2× NFL passing touchdowns leader (1974, 1976)
                                NFL passer rating leader (1976)
                                NFL 1970s All-Decade Team


                                bart starr
                                2× Super Bowl champion (I, II)
                                2× Super Bowl MVP (I, II)
                                5× NFL champion (1961, 1962, 1965–1967)
                                4× Pro Bowl (1960–1962, 1966)
                                First-team All-Pro (1966)
                                2× Second-team All-Pro (1962, 1964)
                                NFL Most Valuable Player (1966)
                                5× NFL passer rating leader (1962, 1964, 1966, 1968, 1969)
                                NFL 1960s All-Decade Team


                                steve young
                                3× Super Bowl champion (XXIII, XXIV, XXIX)
                                Super Bowl MVP (XXIX)
                                7× Pro Bowl (1992–1998)
                                3× First-team All-Pro (1992–1994)
                                3× Second-team All-Pro (1995, 1997, 1998)
                                2× NFL Most Valuable Player (1992, 1994)
                                2× Bert Bell Award (1992, 1994)
                                NFL Offensive Player of the Year (1992)
                                2× NFC Offensive Player of the Year (1992, 1994)
                                4× NFL passing touchdowns leader (1992–1994, 1998)
                                6× NFL passer rating leader (1991–1994, 1996, 1997

                                so ya rivers may have more wins...but no post season success, no MVPs , no SB mvps

                                just a good qb in the regular season, not great...just good
                                those are not the only HOF QB's with less wins than rivers, you're cherry picking again. my only point is to call rivers a career loser when he is 14th all time in wins is pure comedy.

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