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  • mct1967
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    Originally posted by Bolterated View Post
    Next time know what your talking about before you post....9th in the NFL in total defense. I was surprised to see that you guys were actually 2nd in the NFL in total defense for the year. I mean after all your secondary got toasted last week. I would like to personally say great play Rahim and whoever that other corner back was that got toasted on that 70 yard touch down pass that tied the game with 36 seconds left to play...LMAO! Thats a choke job for the ages. Goes to show you that your number 2 total defense in the NFL did not mean squat when it mattered because they choked.
    I did know what I was talking about, so chill out. We were both right and judging by your emotional response, it sounds to me like you're a bit testy about some short-comings of the Bolt's D...how bad for you.

    And your opinion of how the Broncos played last weekend (being the baby-poster you are) matters about as much to me as a gnat landing on my arm...I'll slap it now and kill it.

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  • Beagle
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    Originally posted by Bolterated View Post
    Next time know what your talking about before you post....9th in the NFL in total defense. I was surprised to see that you guys were actually 2nd in the NFL in total defense for the year. I mean after all your secondary got toasted last week. I would like to personally say great play Rahim and whoever that other corner back was that got toasted on that 70 yard touch down pass that tied the game with 36 seconds left to play...LMAO! Thats a choke job for the ages. Goes to show you that your number 2 total defense in the NFL did not mean squat when it mattered because they choked.
    There was a standard set here years ago We claimed our Offense was the second ranked in the league but Chargers fans said 15th because they went by points per game/points scored and we were going by yardage. You are now going by yardage while he was going by points scored against.http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/te...e/seasontype/2 So you are both right in a way.

    Look at it this way maybe the points against isnt very good indicator because your qb threw pick sixes or your ST gave up return tds but at the same time maybe the defense didn't give up many yards because the other team was constantly winning field position against you and there for the other team was marching on short fields all season... I will go with the eye test and from what i saw your defense was pretty good but next year is always another season.

    Regardless if our 2nd ranked d mattered or not your 9th ranked one didn't matter because your team choked all season.
    Last edited by Beagle; 01-20-2013, 09:09 AM.

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  • baphamet
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    Originally posted by mct1967 View Post
    16th in total defense and 18th against the pass with a mediocre pass rush...not something I'd feel too good about if I was a Bolt fan. Plus, the Bolts' D couldnt put the game away in SD against the Broncos or Ravens. Two games the Bolts should've won. If your team's D doesnt improve next year, all the coaching changes wont make much difference in the W column.
    honestly, i don't know any chargers fan or anyone that covers the chargers that felt he should have been fire. there were other teams ready to take him as their DC too.

    the defense was improved in his first year as the DC, he has only had one year and we lacked talent on defense big time.

    the chargers were 9th in yards and yards per play, you are attributing everything to scoring defense but i don't think that tells the entire story.

    also, if we did fire him, who do you think would have been a better option that was available?

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  • Bolterated
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    Originally posted by mct1967 View Post
    16th in total defense and 18th against the pass with a mediocre pass rush...not something I'd feel too good about if I was a Bolt fan. Plus, the Bolts' D couldnt put the game away in SD against the Broncos or Ravens. Two games the Bolts should've won. If your team's D doesnt improve next year, all the coaching changes wont make much difference in the W column.
    Next time know what your talking about before you post....9th in the NFL in total defense. I was surprised to see that you guys were actually 2nd in the NFL in total defense for the year. I mean after all your secondary got toasted last week. I would like to personally say great play Rahim and whoever that other corner back was that got toasted on that 70 yard touch down pass that tied the game with 36 seconds left to play...LMAO! Thats a choke job for the ages. Goes to show you that your number 2 total defense in the NFL did not mean squat when it mattered because they choked.

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  • Bolterated
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    Originally posted by mct1967 View Post
    Huh? According to my sources the Bolts had a 16th ranked D in total defense. Thats not something to feel content with and definitely needs improvement. Pass D = 18th, ugly. 13th in sacks. The only place the Bolts D was good was in run D.
    http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/te...e/seasontype/2

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  • mct1967
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    Originally posted by baphamet View Post
    are you serious? the chargers defense was much improved last year over the year prior, they are keeping john pagano and i think it is the right move.

    they do need to still add some pieces to the defense though, they are going to need some help in the secondary.
    16th in total defense and 18th against the pass with a mediocre pass rush...not something I'd feel too good about if I was a Bolt fan. Plus, the Bolts' D couldnt put the game away in SD against the Broncos or Ravens. Two games the Bolts should've won. If your team's D doesnt improve next year, all the coaching changes wont make much difference in the W column.
    Last edited by mct1967; 01-20-2013, 07:33 AM.

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  • mct1967
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    Originally posted by Bolterated View Post
    Serious?? The Chargers ranked 9th in total defense last year..and that was Paganos first year as dc...were set there.
    Huh? According to my sources the Bolts had a 16th ranked D in total defense. Thats not something to feel content with and definitely needs improvement. Pass D = 18th, ugly. 13th in sacks. The only place the Bolts D was good was in run D.
    Last edited by mct1967; 01-20-2013, 07:31 AM.

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  • Beagle
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    Originally posted by #87Birdman View Post
    No he fell into your laps lol

    But seriously I think it will be interesting to see how the AFC West shakes out with these new hires.
    Broncos
    Chiefs
    Chargers
    Raiders

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  • Beagle
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    Originally posted by Bolterated View Post
    Serious?? The Chargers ranked 9th in total defense last year..and that was Paganos first year as dc...were set there.
    yeap and I actually think your defense was better than The rank they had.

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  • Beagle
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    Originally posted by arapaho View Post
    what did wiz do in AZ without a HOF type qb

    he has rivers in sandiego
    He actually did nothing with him. everyone's forgetting he wasn't the play caller for that Cards team that made the superbowl ,Todd Haley was. Thats how he got the KC job
    In 2007, Haley joined Ken Whisenhunt's coaching staff for the Arizona Cardinals as the team's offensive coordinator. Haley did not start calling plays for the Cardinals until late in the season. The Cardinals finished in the top half of the NFL in multiple offensive categories.
    Under Haley’s guidance, the Cardinals offense in 2008 was one of the league’s most innovative and explosive units. Arizona tied for third in the league in scoring, registering a franchise-record 427 points (26.7 ppg). The Cardinals were fourth in total offense, averaging 365.8 yards per game
    here is what you can look for in your newOC
    Whisenhunt took over the role of offensive coordinator in Pittsburgh for the 2004 season after Mike Mularkey became the head coach of the Buffalo Bills. Although his predecessor Mularkey was known for creating flashy trick plays, Whisenhunt showed great success as more of a cautious innovator, whose well-timed trick plays contrasted the conservative Steelers run game.
    One of Whisenhunt's most famous moments as a Steeler is the trick play he called in Super Bowl XL. With Pittsburgh leading 14-10 over the Seattle Seahawks, Whisenhunt called a wide receiver reverse pass (Antwaan Randle El to Hines Ward, the only TD pass thrown by a WR in Super Bowl history) that allowed Pittsburgh to pull away.
    Last edited by Beagle; 01-19-2013, 08:29 PM.

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  • Bolterated
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    Originally posted by mct1967 View Post
    Spanos has made a lot of hires that are good for the offense, but what's going to be done about improving the Bolt's defense? I think they need a new DC, is McCoy going to have to work with their DC from last year or is Spanos/McCoy going to bring in a new DC? The new Bolt regime better not ignore that side of the ball or they'll have to win shoot-outs like the Packers. I dont think teams with good offenses, but lousy defenses is a formula for championships.
    Serious?? The Chargers ranked 9th in total defense last year..and that was Paganos first year as dc...were set there.

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  • baphamet
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    Originally posted by mct1967 View Post
    Spanos has made a lot of hires that are good for the offense, but what's going to be done about improving the Bolt's defense? I think they need a new DC, is McCoy going to have to work with their DC from last year or is Spanos/McCoy going to bring in a new DC? The new Bolt regime better not ignore that side of the ball or they'll have to win shoot-outs like the Packers. I dont think teams with good offenses, but lousy defenses is a formula for championships.
    are you serious? the chargers defense was much improved last year over the year prior, they are keeping john pagano and i think it is the right move.

    they do need to still add some pieces to the defense though, they are going to need some help in the secondary.

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  • mct1967
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    Originally posted by baphamet View Post
    so, with all this emphasis on offesense and the QB position with the hiring of mccoy, whisenhunt, and Frank Reich......i wonder if beagle still thinks rivers will be without a job this off season? or was that supposed to happen last year? i forget lol
    Spanos has made a lot of hires that are good for the offense, but what's going to be done about improving the Bolt's defense? I think they need a new DC, is McCoy going to have to work with their DC from last year or is Spanos/McCoy going to bring in a new DC? The new Bolt regime better not ignore that side of the ball or they'll have to win shoot-outs like the Packers. I dont think teams with good offenses, but lousy defenses is a formula for championships.

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  • broncoFan!
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    At the end of the day... the Chargers still have Phillip Rivers, and the Broncos still have Peyton Manning.

    That's like comparing Josh Freeman to Tom Brady, lol.

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  • baphamet
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    so, with all this emphasis on offesense and the QB position with the hiring of mccoy, whisenhunt, and Frank Reich......i wonder if beagle still thinks rivers will be without a job this off season? or was that supposed to happen last year? i forget lol

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