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  • i just wanted to remind sd that they always seem to blow free agency

    Plus you let all your talent go else where , sproles , vj , breese just to name a few. But I must thank you guys for constantly making our division easier to win. If the chargers still had sproles and vj and breese they might just might have a shot at competing , but seems like SD is so
    cheap they are gonna thrift themselves right into 4th

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    Originally posted by denversdivision View Post
    Plus you let all your talent go else where , sproles , vj , breese just to name a few. But I must thank you guys for constantly making our division easier to win. If the chargers still had sproles and vj and breese they might just might have a shot at competing , but seems like SD is so
    cheap they are gonna thrift themselves right into 4th
    well since you just became a fan i can understand why you think the chargers have always made it easy for your team to win

    just last year the chargers made a FA splash to attempt to win right away and it bit them in the ass. this year with the new regime they are taking the bill polian route and are not making a lot of moves in FA in order to build for the future through the draft.

    the broncos have a very small window of opportunity to win a ring with manning so it makes sense for them to make a FA splash this year.

    but you would have to understand the game of football to know this, dont worry, it will come in time.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by baphamet View Post
      well since you just became a fan i can understand why you think the chargers have always made it easy for your team to win

      just last year the chargers made a FA splash to attempt to win right away and it bit them in the ass. this year with the new regime they are taking the bill polian route and are not making a lot of moves in FA in order to build for the future through the draft.

      the broncos have a very small window of opportunity to win a ring with manning so it makes sense for them to make a FA splash this year.

      but you would have to understand the game of football to know this, dont worry, it will come in time.
      I've been a fan 20 years or so , and I played football , your team let us take their best plaer on o line , and you have let very talented players escape which every team does at some point I guess just seems like the chargers a kinda cheap at times and under value ppl a lot but you guys , I really figure a team with a losing record should have been active in fa but I guess they think their ability to draft will save them. BTW broncos ability to be contenders doesn't end when manning leaves. We have several young players on d and o that are play makers and a rocket armed back up that getn to learn the game from one of the greats. Its wish full thinking on your end to say were not a playoff team without manning

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      • #4
        Originally posted by baphamet View Post
        well since you just became a fan i can understand why you think the chargers have always made it easy for your team to win

        just last year the chargers made a FA splash to attempt to win right away and it bit them in the ass. this year with the new regime they are taking the bill polian route and are not making a lot of moves in FA in order to build for the future through the draft.

        the broncos have a very small window of opportunity to win a ring with manning so it makes sense for them to make a FA splash this year.

        but you would have to understand the game of football to know this, dont worry, it will come in time.
        Also you keep referring to that I just signed up so I must have done this because my teams good. If that was the case why wouldn't I have signed up last year lol or when we had tebow and won against the steelers lol , basicly by your logic anyone who joins when their teams good have been waiting to join ? Kinda confused what your talking about , you wanna talk football we can but attacking me because I am new is stupid, your join date was in Nov of 2006 , when your team was on top of the world , 14-2 wasn't it lmao or when you joined maybe 10-1 ? Lol what a joke man , guess that's why you try to say that about me cause that exactly what you did ,
        Last edited by denversdivision; 03-14-2013, 06:57 PM.

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        • #5
          to baph

          My bad baph after looking when you joined your team was 7 and 2 ,and you joined the day after you beat cin ...so does that mean your just a giant hypocritical homer
          Last edited by denversdivision; 03-14-2013, 07:04 PM.

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          • #6
            So far it looks like the biggest screw up made this year was by Denver waiting to long to restructure Elvis's contract and it costing them a 5mil salary cap hit.

            http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/90...ording-sources

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            • #7
              Originally posted by NFLfan..MLBzzzz View Post
              So far it looks like the biggest screw up made this year was by Denver waiting to long to restructure Elvis's contract and it costing them a 5mil salary cap hit.

              http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/90...ording-sources
              How exactly was this Denvers screw up?

              Please explain......

              We gave the agent and Doom plenty of time to except our offer so really dont know why you would think it was the Broncos fault........
              Last edited by 58_VONDOOM_92; 03-15-2013, 09:55 PM.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by NFLfan..MLBzzzz View Post
                So far it looks like the biggest screw up made this year was by Denver waiting to long to restructure Elvis's contract and it costing them a 5mil salary cap hit.

                http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/90...ording-sources
                Ah Chargers fans so oblivious to how the NFL works. Had Denver not cut him Loose he would have been guaranteed 12 million dollars this season instead of 5 million he will count vs the cap now.Cutting him was the intention all along if he wouldn't rework his contract which is what happened.
                His Agent tried to pull a fast one by sending the fax late and having his old contract take precedence...The Broncos are not the ones to fail that would be the agent...http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post...oncos-dumervil
                Last edited by Beagle; 03-16-2013, 05:31 AM.
                Originally posted by baphamet
                are you talking career or right now? because i don't see how you can say manning is top 5 even healthy.dude will never be a top 5 QB again, he is done.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by denversdivision View Post
                  Also you keep referring to that I just signed up so I must have done this because my teams good. If that was the case why wouldn't I have signed up last year lol or when we had tebow and won against the steelers lol , basicly by your logic anyone who joins when their teams good have been waiting to join ? Kinda confused what your talking about , you wanna talk football we can but attacking me because I am new is stupid, your join date was in Nov of 2006 , when your team was on top of the world , 14-2 wasn't it lmao or when you joined maybe 10-1 ? Lol what a joke man , guess that's why you try to say that about me cause that exactly what you did ,
                  "...attacking me because I am new is stupid, your join date was in Nov of 2006 , when your team was on top of the world , 14-2 wasn't it lmao or when you joined maybe 10-1 ? Lol what a joke man , guess that's why you try to say that about me cause that exactly what you did ,"

                  ABSOLUTELY HILARIOUS POINT! HAHAHAHAHA!! You're going to find Baph steps in the hypocritical dog-doo quite frequently around here. Great Post!

                  Better get used to Baph's weak smack. When he's got nothing, no good points or anything else to say...he rolls out his regular "fair-weather" comments, "join-date" comments and other irrelevant crapola. Thats his fall-back position.
                  Last edited by mct1967; 03-16-2013, 08:17 AM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by denversdivision View Post
                    Plus you let all your talent go else where , sproles , vj , breese just to name a few. But I must thank you guys for constantly making our division easier to win. If the chargers still had sproles and vj and breese they might just might have a shot at competing , but seems like SD is so
                    cheap they are gonna thrift themselves right into 4th
                    Brees was a calculated risk, most people considered his career over at the time. I still miss Sproles, no idea why he was let go but we rarely used him well anyway. VJ I honestly don't care about, Danario Alexander has shown he can fill his role. You are correct however, the Chargers are cheap. We need to cut or restructure Gates.

                    Originally posted by denversdivision View Post
                    I've been a fan 20 years or so , and I played football , your team let us take their best plaer on o line , and you have let very talented players escape which every team does at some point I guess just seems like the chargers a kinda cheap at times and under value ppl a lot but you guys , I really figure a team with a losing record should have been active in fa but I guess they think their ability to draft will save them. BTW broncos ability to be contenders doesn't end when manning leaves. We have several young players on d and o that are play makers and a rocket armed back up that getn to learn the game from one of the greats. Its wish full thinking on your end to say were not a playoff team without manning
                    You touch on a very good point here. The Chargers the past couple years have been like the Padres, a nice little farm team for the rest of the league.

                    Originally posted by denversdivision View Post
                    My bad baph after looking when you joined your team was 7 and 2 ,and you joined the day after you beat cin ...so does that mean your just a giant hypocritical homer
                    If he were a homer he would stick to the official Chargers homer board.

                    Originally posted by 58_VONDOOM_92 View Post
                    How exactly was this Denvers screw up?

                    Please explain......

                    We gave the agent and Doom plenty of time to except our offer so really dont know why you would think it was the Broncos fault........
                    The best article I've seen on it it here.

                    It's a mess that never, ever should have happened.

                    Originally posted by Beagle View Post
                    Ah Chargers fans so oblivious to how the NFL works. Had Denver not cut him Loose he would have been guaranteed 12 million dollars this season instead of 5 million he will count vs the cap now.Cutting him was the intention all along if he wouldn't rework his contract which is what happened.
                    His Agent tried to pull a fast one by sending the fax late and having his old contract take precedence...The Broncos are not the ones to fail that would be the agent...http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post...oncos-dumervil
                    He would have gotten 12 mil and PLAYED, vs sucking up 5 mil and being elsewhere. He's still young-ish. He Won't get the money the Broncos were paying him but he will get paid.

                    In the end...I blame Kinko's.

                    Originally posted by mct1967 View Post
                    ABSOLUTELY HILARIOUS POINT! HAHAHAHAHA!! You're going to find Baph steps in the hypocritical dog-doo quite frequently around here. Great Post!

                    Better get used to Baph's weak smack. When he's got nothing, no good points or anything else to say...he rolls out his regular "fair-weather" comments, "join-date" comments and other irrelevant crapola. Thats his fall-back position.
                    Target the post and not the person who posted it folks.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Puddleglum View Post





                      He would have gotten 12 mil and PLAYED, vs sucking up 5 mil and being elsewhere. He's still young-ish. He Won't get the money the Broncos were paying him but he will get paid.

                      In the end...I blame Kinko's.



                      Target the post and not the person who posted it folks.
                      Dumervil fired his agent so i think we know who he blames...yeap cost him 8 Million bucks I would have fired and sued him as far as the would have played for 12 million bucks who wouldnt have...but the Broncos were not going to have that or they would not have cut him deee da deee
                      Last edited by Beagle; 03-16-2013, 03:31 PM.
                      Originally posted by baphamet
                      are you talking career or right now? because i don't see how you can say manning is top 5 even healthy.dude will never be a top 5 QB again, he is done.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by denversdivision View Post
                        My bad baph after looking when you joined your team was 7 and 2 ,and you joined the day after you beat cin ...so does that mean your just a giant hypocritical homer
                        when i first joined i wasn't running my mouth like you are now, making 5 threads a day talking junk like you are attention starved or something.

                        i joined the week our teams were to face each other and if you look at my posting history (which you obviously are), you will see i left right after that for quite a while.

                        fairweather!
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by mct1967 View Post
                          "...attacking me because I am new is stupid, your join date was in Nov of 2006 , when your team was on top of the world , 14-2 wasn't it lmao or when you joined maybe 10-1 ? Lol what a joke man , guess that's why you try to say that about me cause that exactly what you did ,"

                          ABSOLUTELY HILARIOUS POINT! HAHAHAHAHA!! You're going to find Baph steps in the hypocritical dog-doo quite frequently around here. Great Post!

                          Better get used to Baph's weak smack. When he's got nothing, no good points or anything else to say...he rolls out his regular "fair-weather" comments, "join-date" comments and other irrelevant crapola. Thats his fall-back position.
                          and calling me a liar when you are absolutely clueless is much better smack i take it? or how about you trashing me for saying manning is a career choker and telling me that i am ignorant for thinking he will bring his choking ways to denver? how did that one work out for you silly guy?
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Beagle View Post
                            Ah Chargers fans so oblivious to how the NFL works. Had Denver not cut him Loose he would have been guaranteed 12 million dollars this season instead of 5 million he will count vs the cap now.Cutting him was the intention all along if he wouldn't rework his contract which is what happened.
                            His Agent tried to pull a fast one by sending the fax late and having his old contract take precedence...The Broncos are not the ones to fail that would be the agent...http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post...oncos-dumervil
                            While I agree with you that the agent and Elvis are partly to blame but I'd place equal blame on the Front office. If they didn't wait till the last couple hours to fax over their proposal it maybe wouldn't have had to come down to a deadline decision. Present him the proposed pay cut the day before and maybe he's still a Bronco.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by NFLfan..MLBzzzz View Post
                              While I agree with you that the agent and Elvis are partly to blame but I'd place equal blame on the Front office. If they didn't wait till the last couple hours to fax over their proposal it maybe wouldn't have had to come down to a deadline decision. Present him the proposed pay cut the day before and maybe he's still a Bronco.
                              Once again you don't know what you're talking about. Dumervils agaent told Denver hours before the deadline he wasn't going to accept the offer so Denver drew up the release papers..an hour before the dead line He called Denver saying Dumervil would accept it..so Denver sent to paper work over with the understanding it would be sent back asap..it wasn't..Agents fault Broncos team president John Elway issued a statement Friday night, explaining the situation from the team's point of view.

                              "Due to the procedural elements that were involved in executing the new proposal, we imposed a 1 p.m. MDT deadline for a decision, one hour before the NFL's waiver wire at 2 p.m. MDT. Our deadline was clearly communicated to Elvis' representative," Elway said in the statement. "At 1 p.m. MDT, we were informed by Elvis' representative that he declined our offer. We then prepared Elvis' termination notice to officially file his release with the NFL office.

                              "At approximately 1:25 p.m. MDT, however, we were informed that Elvis changed his mind and accepted the same contract we proposed nearly two-and-a-half hours earlier. Although we expressed our concern regarding the time constraints, we were assured that the signed documents would be submitted to us before the league's waiver deadline.

                              "We did not receive the documents from Elvis by the league's deadline and were forced to release him shortly before 2 p.m. MDT.
                              I know you're looking for any kind of Chargers victory here but it aint going to happen they suck and so does your opinion on this matter
                              Last edited by Beagle; 03-16-2013, 08:03 PM.
                              Originally posted by baphamet
                              are you talking career or right now? because i don't see how you can say manning is top 5 even healthy.dude will never be a top 5 QB again, he is done.

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