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  • #46
    Originally posted by NoRingNoGlory View Post
    Wow you really have your head in the sand here don't you?
    It doesn't matter what his playoff stats are, he has on his record 8 appearances where he was one-and-done hence dubbed as the "one and done choke artist of all time" regardless of who's fault it was. This is the baggage you get as a QB, plain and simple.

    Consider Marty when he was our coach. Everyone of you cry babies whined about him and then said ah ha, see, he's a choker indeed. Why? Look at his history. That dude has a whole bunch of 0-1 chokeoff appearances on his record. Does Marty get a free pass if one says well, uh duh.....he wasn't playing so he has nothing to do with the chokes", he's just the uh duh head coach". Coaches and QB's get tagged for the win-losses, not the players. This is football 101, obviously you are clueless to this fact. Even the great John Elway said that a QB is known and will go down in history by his wins-losses (nothing more, nothing less). Stats nobody really cares about once you retire and the sunsets on your NFL QB career.

    The fact is, the Denver Broncos haven't done squat didly in the playoffs since Elway retired, even with what most consider your "2nd Best QB on the Roster of all time" with a bunch of talent surrounding him all over the place, even more than the 2005 roster as so spoken in many donkey circles. Still he CHOKED again and so the all the rest in between.

    You have to ask yourself if he got the team that far with all that talent around him (and yes you donkeys said over and over how talented your roster was up and down, backwards and forwards) with no injuries and all guns blazing and choked themselves out of the playoffs how in the world do they think they can go any further than that with Manning under center every again while he's going down hill in his old age? Welcome back to reality.
    Congratulations... you were able to think with your brain and post some thoughts without plagiarizing someone else's work...well done. But...

    Most of your Marty/QB comparison is invalid. They dont have an equal amount of power on the team. You cant compare players and HCs. HCs have FAR more impact on a team than a QB does and HCs are FAR more responsible for wins and losses than a QB. Is a player able to bring in his own system to any team and install it like a coach? No. Does a QB make starting decisions for his team? No. Does a QB make draft and FA decisions? No. Does a QB work with the GM at player evaluation? No. Does a QB hire asst. coaches? No. Does a QB run practices? No. This is Football 101, which you are ignorant of.

    But nice try. Keep thinking for yourself...someday you'll have a valid thought.
    Last edited by mct1967; 05-06-2013, 08:37 AM.

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    • #47
      So, Phyliss CrymeaRivers and Mancry Teo walk into a bar.. upon entering the bar instantly explodes because that much fail cannot be contained in one place.

      Good thing SD can't sell out a game, no one will get hurt.
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      • #48
        Originally posted by ebsoria View Post
        So, Phyliss CrymeaRivers and Mancry Teo walk into a bar.. upon entering the bar instantly explodes because that much fail cannot be contained in one place.

        Good thing SD can't sell out a game, no one will get hurt.
        Mancry was a mistake, they will see that soon enough

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        • #49
          Originally posted by denversdivision View Post
          Mancry was a mistake, they will see that soon enough
          I know I'm beating a dead horse here, but I keep thinking about all those empty seats and how Mancry will think they're full!!!!
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          • #50
            Originally posted by kishzilla View Post
            I tried to tell him this, but his panties seem to have gotten into an unfixable wad

            When his team sucks, he just can't hang. It's just boring.

            Now watch him say all I do is blah blah blah and snivel some more and not even mention football . lol
            oh i am sorry, what would you like me to say? pull out trophy smack or how much better we used to be? that's pretty much what broncos fan smack consisted of around here for like 5 years. but i guess that wasn't stale or lame smack at all was it kish?

            not to mention your awesome baby picture smack, that is just so epic! tell me, how do you come up with such epicness???

            why would i mention football? its the off season and as it stands right now my team is inferior to yours in every way. you think because i don't run retarded smack that i don't even believe that it makes my smack stale? well if that's the case right on!

            so just do what you do best and reply to this post with a baby crying picture and tell me how much my smack sucks.
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            • #51
              Originally posted by denversdivision View Post
              Mancry was a mistake, they will see that soon enough
              sorry, didn't most of you donko fans play the "wait and see" card when you guys drafted tim tebow? i would give "mancry" a much much better chance to succeed in the NFL than tebow, that is for damn sure.

              i mean, even if he is just a solid starter it would be a success being a second round draft pick.
              Last edited by baphamet; 05-07-2013, 07:36 PM.
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              • #52
                Originally posted by baphamet View Post
                sorry, didn't most of you donko fans play the "wait and see" card when you guys drafted tim tebow? i would give "mancry" a much much better chance to succeed in the NFL than tebow, that is for damn sure.

                i mean, even if he is just a solid starter it would be a success being a second round draft pick.
                First , I didn't want Tim , but I embraced him and hoped for the best. Second i am not sure if you wanted man cry or not but you had bigger fish to fry , and wasted a high pick on low round character.

                Yes he can tackle at least in college against college wrs and rbs , but he fades in the spot light and he really isnt that fast for a guy with so much hype , nor does he deliver crushing blows often. He will fill a void and maybe even be an improvement slightly over spikes but he's just way over rated. And if you club was willing to take on a guy with a character issue they should have made a move through trade or something to scoop up Ogletree.

                We will see how he does chasing Mc Fadden ,Charles, that he will be seeing often. And how he does against our run game and Manning's adjustments . Hes walking into a hornets nest.
                Last edited by denversdivision; 05-07-2013, 09:20 PM.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by baphamet View Post
                  oh i am sorry, what would you like me to say? pull out trophy smack or how much better we used to be? that's pretty much what broncos fan smack consisted of around here for like 5 years. but i guess that wasn't stale or lame smack at all was it kish?

                  not to mention your awesome baby picture smack, that is just so epic! tell me, how do you come up with such epicness???

                  why would i mention football? its the off season and as it stands right now my team is inferior to yours in every way. you think because i don't run retarded smack that i don't even believe that it makes my smack stale? well if that's the case right on!

                  so just do what you do best and reply to this post with a baby crying picture and tell me how much my smack sucks.
                  Baph, again with the whining. Smh. What has happened? Could it be that everything we bronco fans were saying about NORV, AJ, rivers and company was true these last 5 years? You know when you were pumping them up to be the biggest baddest collection of talent the afc west has ever seen? See it was easy for charger fans to front like they were to be the next king esp while we ha been knocked down to our lowest. I liken the chargers and their fans to a wanna be up and coming fighter who hasn't tasted success yet but almost reach it. And while doing so talking trash to the grizzled champ who has been thoroughly whipped. But see the thing about that is that while the champ may be down, don't count your proverbial chickens....ESP when you haven't earned it. The broncos and fans have earned our stripes. We have been to the mountain top. We have been knocked down. And we we've clawed our way back. Where as you guys are pretenders. You were 5 years ago and you always will be until you prove otherwise. It stings I know....well no I don't. But that's life. Quit whining. You chose to support a franchise that accepts mediocrity. Tough. You chose to talk smack when you haven't even done anything and while doing so disrespect the accomplishments of teams and their fans that have done something. And now you're back to the jv squad. Good luck cupcake. Not only are we light years ahead of the chugger in talent at every position (except safety) but we have the front office talent to keep us there. Oh did I mention the cheifs are coming fast and hell the raiders might make waves in 2 years with all that cap room and disciplined decision makers.....

                  What we and I say that meaning our team and front office have is intestinal fortitude. Something your team and fan base has shown none of over 40 years. Must be that SoCal lifestyle....but hey my fair weather king of easy smack.....there is always padres....
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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Alaskajoe View Post
                    Baph, again with the whining. Smh. What has happened? Could it be that everything we bronco fans were saying about NORV, AJ, rivers and company was true these last 5 years? You know when you were pumping them up to be the biggest baddest collection of talent the afc west has ever seen? See it was easy for charger fans to front like they were to be the next king esp while we ha been knocked down to our lowest. I liken the chargers and their fans to a wanna be up and coming fighter who hasn't tasted success yet but almost reach it. And while doing so talking trash to the grizzled champ who has been thoroughly whipped. But see the thing about that is that while the champ may be down, don't count your proverbial chickens....ESP when you haven't earned it. The broncos and fans have earned our stripes. We have been to the mountain top. We have been knocked down. And we we've clawed our way back. Where as you guys are pretenders. You were 5 years ago and you always will be until you prove otherwise. It stings I know....well no I don't. But that's life. Quit whining. You chose to support a franchise that accepts mediocrity. Tough. You chose to talk smack when you haven't even done anything and while doing so disrespect the accomplishments of teams and their fans that have done something. And now you're back to the jv squad. Good luck cupcake. Not only are we light years ahead of the chugger in talent at every position (except safety) but we have the front office talent to keep us there. Oh did I mention the cheifs are coming fast and hell the raiders might make waves in 2 years with all that cap room and disciplined decision makers.....

                    What we and I say that meaning our team and front office have is intestinal fortitude. Something your team and fan base has shown none of over 40 years. Must be that SoCal lifestyle....but hey my fair weather king of easy smack.....there is always padres....
                    didn't read and don't care.

                    just so you are aware.
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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by denversdivision View Post
                      First , I didn't want Tim , but I embraced him and hoped for the best. Second i am not sure if you wanted man cry or not but you had bigger fish to fry , and wasted a high pick on low round character.

                      Yes he can tackle at least in college against college wrs and rbs , but he fades in the spot light and he really isnt that fast for a guy with so much hype , nor does he deliver crushing blows often. He will fill a void and maybe even be an improvement slightly over spikes but he's just way over rated. And if you club was willing to take on a guy with a character issue they should have made a move through trade or something to scoop up Ogletree.

                      We will see how he does chasing Mc Fadden ,Charles, that he will be seeing often. And how he does against our run game and Manning's adjustments . Hes walking into a hornets nest.
                      no i didn't want him but i never really thought about it because my focus was he OL going into the draft. i think we got good value at a position of need. i also don't see him as having character issues because of one isolated incident that embarrassed him, i doubt we see anything like that happening again.

                      before the national championship game he was pretty much going to be a top 5 overall pick with no character issues. dude has one bad game and that stupid scandal and now all of a sudden he has no chance of being a good player?

                      i get that he is undersized and not blazing fast, not saying he is going to do this or that, i am just saying its a good chance he becomes a solid starter for us, which is worth a second and 4th round draft pick in my mind.

                      if not? oh well, its not like he would be a first round bust for us like tebow and actually has a chance to become a good player at his position, unlike tebow.

                      yet your fans were optimistic and took the wait and see approach (with tebow), does manti not deserve the same luxury?
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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by baphamet View Post
                        no i didn't want him but i never really thought about it because my focus was he OL going into the draft. i think we got good value at a position of need. i also don't see him as having character issues because of one isolated incident that embarrassed him, i doubt we see anything like that happening again.

                        before the national championship game he was pretty much going to be a top 5 overall pick with no character issues. dude has one bad game and that stupid scandal and now all of a sudden he has no chance of being a good player?

                        i get that he is undersized and not blazing fast, not saying he is going to do this or that, i am just saying its a good chance he becomes a solid starter for us, which is worth a second and 4th round draft pick in my mind.

                        if not? oh well, its not like he would be a first round bust for us like tebow and actually has a chance to become a good player at his position, unlike tebow.

                        yet your fans were optimistic and took the wait and see approach (with tebow), does manti not deserve the same luxury?
                        Tebow wasn't a bust , now he wasn't a success either , but he got us too the playoffs somehow , kept us in the media 24-7 , didn't cost much and we did get a 4th and 6th round pick for tebow and our 7th (if I remember correctly).

                        Man cry will do similar for you. Media attention wise ... but he wasn't a top 5 pick ever in my mind , not even 1st round , Notre dame was one of the most over rated teams in history last year and are always given more attention and hype. Brady Quinn is a great example of Notre dames hype machine. 4 teams in 7 years and no real resume to speak of.

                        Man cry is average , maybe slightly (ever so slighlty ) above average. But you could have done better and when your teams on the brink of falling off completely in the west ... kc made moves , bold ones this off season , no doubt In my mind they are second best right now in the west , or will be by seasons end ...chargers needed more than man cry...

                        Fluker could have used some help...
                        Last edited by denversdivision; 05-08-2013, 01:07 PM.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by baphamet View Post
                          didn't read and don't care.

                          just so you are aware.
                          Do you took the time to read enough of it then to respond to say you didn't read it and you don't care? Isn't reading some of it and responding in form contradicting that statement?

                          Baph you crack me up. Finally someone hits you the same way you've been hitting others and you turtle....it just happens to be someone you aren't used to and it scares you...that's fine. Run. I'm bored with going after someone who refuses to engage in legit smack or debate anyways. Keep pounding the "trophie smack is evil" button....it will eventually work.....I swear! ;-)
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                          • #58
                            I read half this thread... not much to contribute... but this is just so cute...



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