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  • #31
    Originally posted by 9erEmpire View Post
    I didn't say that or even thought about it but since you brought it up. Colin went against probably one of the best QB's in the league in Rodgers. Nobody considers Flaaco a passing juggernaut.
    I don't ever remember seeing one play with both Colin and Rodgers on the field at the same time?

    My whole point is if Colin was just as dominant as Peyton, the Niners would've put up a comparable number of points. I don't think many people would say the Packers D is better than the Ravens; at the worst, they are even. So the bottom line is Peyton was more dominant and there's pretty much no objective nor subjective way to argue that, other than "in the context of the game" which really doesn't mean anything anyway.
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    • #32
      Originally posted by notwithit View Post
      Honestly I'm not sure I can agree with this. I haven't seen anything about Russell Wilson or Luck near like Kaepernick is getting.
      Of course not. They are not as good as Colin.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by 9erEmpire View Post
        Of course not. They are not as good as Colin.
        I kno rite?.

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        • #34
          We haven't seen a QB like Colin since Elway and Steve Young. Elway is actually Colin's idol. He wore #7 because of Elway.

          Elway was probably the last guy that can legitimately kill you with his legs and arm. Colin already has that legendary arm and now he just needs to bring us those trophies.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by 9erEmpire View Post
            The main reason why I think Manning's performance is equal to Colin's is because Manning had 7 touchdowns. Colin's stats were in the context of the game. Manning's performance seemed forced. It was like they were calling plays to get him the record. The record is great because nobody has done it. Colin's performance was in the context of the game. The game was close and he did it leading his team to a win.
            They were trying to force the record to Manning? What? Well lets see, he had 2 TDs in the first half and we went into halftime down 3. Then he had 3 Tds in the 3rd quarter to put us up by 18 going into the 4th. 18 points isn't a big enough lead going into the 4th especially against a team who relies on big plays. Manning scored on the first drive in the 4th quarter, there were 13 minutes left in the game at that point. After that drive we came out and ran it 3 straight times for a 3 and out, that drive began with 10:30 minutes left in the game. Baltimore went and scored a FG. Next drive we came out and ran it for 2 yards. Playaction to Decker was dropped, would have been a first down and the next play call would have been another run. On 3rd and 8 we threw a screen pass that went 78 yards, that is in no way trying to go for the record.

            All in all 5 of Manning's TDs were over 20 yards, the only 2 that weren't were Welker's TDs and with Manning that's money down there. It's all about red zone efficiency and Manning to Welker is going to be more efficient than our run game.

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            • #36
              Colin had a good game this week and I would say he was the 2nd best QB this week. But to say that you could flip a coin on their performance this week is ridiculous. Kaepernick's game was no where near legendary. The only thing anyone will remember from that game at all is the late hit by Mathews. Peyton's performance will go down as one of the best in NFL history. That's not comparable at all. And no one in the NFL would rather face the Ravens defense over the Packers defense. They definitely weren't forcing the record at all. A screen pass is forcing a record? The only way the two games would even be comparable is if Kaep rushed for a lot of yards and threw as good as he did. But he ran for 22 yards. No one is impressed with that. He had a great game. The 9ers look really good. But he wasn't even near Peyton's performance at all. We have definitely seen dual QB's since Elway and Young. Michael Vick, Donovan McNabb early in his career, Steve McNair, etc. Dual threat QB's aren't anything new.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by 9erEmpire View Post
                We haven't seen a QB like Colin since Elway and Steve Young. Elway is actually Colin's idol. He wore #7 because of Elway.

                Elway was probably the last guy that can legitimately kill you with his legs and arm. Colin already has that legendary arm and now he just needs to bring us those trophies.
                This is so oblivious to the NFL........

                I hope you're in middle school or something.
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by 9erEmpire View Post
                  I'm going to disagree. Put both their names in a hat and pick. Who cares, both amazing performances.
                  Manning tied a record gives him the edge no hat for you
                  Originally posted by baphamet
                  are you talking career or right now? because i don't see how you can say manning is top 5 even healthy.dude will never be a top 5 QB again, he is done.

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                  • #39
                    No run game sacks and penalties are what killed Mannings chances for highest QBR, big woop. He still had a night that all QB's dream of. Manning had
                    the most yards
                    the most passing TD's
                    0 INT's
                    the most yards per attempt
                    the longest pass
                    The highest passer rating
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                    • #40
                      As I just stated in the non-troll Giants smack thread: I think Eli is closer to Elway than Kaepernick. Kaepernick is closer to Steve Young. Even though Eli doesn't run with the ball, the throws that he makes, and when he makes them is reminiscent of Elway.

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                      • #41
                        Im sorry but Elway has nothing to do with Eli. Not the same era or skills. Some seem to forget that Elway had one of the strongest arm ever seen in the NFL and Eli does not even come close to this.

                        That being said. Defending Colin K being the best qb last week against Manning is hoping on a band wagon and nothing else. When is the last time you have seen a QB push 7 TD in a single game ? The answer: I was not even born !

                        Even Tom Brady could not even top this when the Pats ran up the score...

                        Now Im not saying Colin is a bust, far from this but putting him in the all HOF before he has played his 2nd season is comical to say the least.
                        Last edited by Louich; 09-10-2013, 07:59 AM.
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by 9erEmpire View Post
                          I'm going to disagree. Put both their names in a hat and pick. Who cares, both amazing performances.
                          7 passing TD's and 450+ passing yards...yup not even close bro Peytons performance was one of those that games that NFL Films will make a documentary about and play for ages to come....Colin's...no one will remember 2 weeks from now.

                          Go take your mancrush elsewhere
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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Louich View Post
                            Im sorry but Elway has nothing to do with Eli. Not the same era or skills. Some seem to forget that Elway had one of the strongest arm ever seen in the NFL and Eli does not even come close to this.

                            That being said. Defending Colin K being the best qb last week against Manning is hoping on a band wagon and nothing else. When is the last time you have seen a QB push 7 TD in a single game ? The answer: I was not even born !

                            Even Tom Brady could not even top this when the Pats ran up the score...

                            Now Im not saying Colin is a bust, far from this but putting him in the all HOF before he has played his 2nd season is comical to say the least.
                            I was talking more about the things he does in the 4th quarter, but OK.

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                            • #44
                              I was not trying to point fingers or anything. It is just that an apple has to be compared with an apple. ;-)
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                              • #45
                                The Great Colin Kaepernick has put up a whopping 3 pts on the Seahawks tonight.

                                What a transcendental talent he is!
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