Tom Brady vs Peyton Manning

[#87Birdman]

And the Saints D is much better than yours. Brady will easily carve it.

to bad our offense is much better than the saints and will leave the patriots wondering how they got destroyed.

[GoManning]

And the Saints D is much better than yours. Brady will easily carve it.

[Joshecalpoly]

Its called bend dont break for a reason (allow yards but keep them from scoring or making big plays)
Who cares how many yards someone gets what effects the outcome of the game is the amount of points a team allows

Points Allowed
2011
Pats: 15

2010
Colts: 23
Pats: 8

2009
Pats: 5
Colts: 8

2008
Colts: 7

2007
Colts: 1
Pats: 4

2006
Pats: 2
Colts: 23 (WORST IN THE AFC and won a SB)

2005
Colts: 2
Pats: 17

2004
Pats: 2 (WON A SB)
Colts: 19

2003
Pats: 1 (WON A SB)
Colts: 20

2002
Pats: 17
Colts:7

2001
Pats: 6 (WON A SB)
Colts: 32

Average
NE: 7.7
Indy: 14.4

Average when in SB
Pats: 5.6
Indy: 15.5

Average when won SB
Indy: 23
Pats: 3


There Im done I proved that stupid point, though I suppose all the Saints care about are yards which is why they cant keep teams like Bradys out of their own endzone without Gronk and your team cant make it past the divisional rounds more then once in its entire franchise history (even Manning has a better record then your franchise). Oh and like the Colts D in 2006 you havent even seen us at full strength yet. Now I am done

Pats D>>>>>>>>Colts D

[ERoyal248]

And the Saints D is much better than yours. Brady will easily carve it.

And without Mayo and Wilfork middle of the field is ripe for the taking.

[ERoyal248]

And Broncos O > Saints O.

No Mayo/Wilfork leaves middle of the field wide open.

[ERoyal248]

Josh just owned the troll.

Pats always had a better D most of the time and better teams useless argument.

[broncoslover115]

Why do we always have to play NE in Foxboro? When was the last time they had to come to Denver? Seems like a lopsided schedule to me but I could be wrong.

[DenverBlood]

Why do we always have to play NE in Foxboro? When was the last time they had to come to Denver? Seems like a lopsided schedule to me but I could be wrong.

Two years ago with Tebow and in 08 with Orton they came to Denver. It's actually about 50-50. You're just thinking we always go there because this is the second year straight. Playoffs are 1 home a peice too.

Now Ravens that's where you really have a complaint. This year was a very rare occurence of Ravens coming to Denver.

[Maharishineo]

Thanks, Josh. If you weren't going to make that "point" then I was going to.

The Patriots have been allowing a significant amount of yards THIS YEAR yet in terms of points, the picture is way different. Bend but don't break is something they've done quite a bit of where as Manning's teams have bent and broken lol

[#87Birdman]

Thanks, Josh. If you weren't going to make that "point" then I was going to.

The Patriots have been allowing a significant amount of yards THIS YEAR yet in terms of points, the picture is way different. Bend but don't break is something they've done quite a bit of where as Manning's teams have bent and broken lol

what makes it funny is outside of this thread he always points to the patriots being a top 5 scoring defense but for this thread he went with yards. Probably the only thing he could find to support his point lol.

[martz11]

Premise: Peyton Manning just never had the defense to support him like Tom Brady did.

Analysis: Official NFL Team Defensive Rankings (yards allowed)
Patriots 2001: 24
Colts 2001: 29

Patriots 2002: 26
Colts 2002: 8

Patriots 2003: 7
Colts 2003: 11

Patriots 2004: 9
Colts 2004: 29

Patriots 2005: 26
Colts 2005: 11

Patriots 2006: 6
Colts 2006: 21

Patriots 2007: 4
Colts 2007: 3

Patriots 2008: skipped (no Brady)
Colts 2008: 11

Patriots 2009: 11
Colts 2009: 18

Patriots 2010: 25
Colts 2010: 20

Patriots 2011: 31
Colts 2011: skipped (no Manning)

10 year average ranking
Patriots: 16.9
Colts: 16.1

Conclusion: The premise is flawed

Brady > Manning

[RandomVariable]

Its called bend dont break for a reason (allow yards but keep them from scoring or making big plays)
Who cares how many yards someone gets what effects the outcome of the game is the amount of points a team allows

Points Allowed
2011
Pats: 15

2010
Colts: 23
Pats: 8

2009
Pats: 5
Colts: 8

2008
Colts: 7

2007
Colts: 1
Pats: 4

2006
Pats: 2
Colts: 23 (WORST IN THE AFC and won a SB)

2005
Colts: 2
Pats: 17

2004
Pats: 2 (WON A SB)
Colts: 19

2003
Pats: 1 (WON A SB)
Colts: 20

2002
Pats: 17
Colts:7

2001
Pats: 6 (WON A SB)
Colts: 32

Average
NE: 7.7
Indy: 14.4

Average when in SB
Pats: 5.6
Indy: 15.5

Average when won SB
Indy: 23
Pats: 3


There Im done I proved that stupid point, though I suppose all the Saints care about are yards which is why they cant keep teams like Bradys out of their own endzone without Gronk and your team cant make it past the divisional rounds more then once in its entire franchise history (even Manning has a better record then your franchise). Oh and like the Colts D in 2006 you havent even seen us at full strength yet. Now I am done

Pats D>>>>>>>>Colts D

There's a reason defenses are ranked by yards and not by points. There's a lot more to factor in when looking at points. Field position, special teams, turnovers, etc. It's not always strictly on the D.

You must be forgetting Manning's terrible performance in the playoffs the year he won the SB. 3 TDs and 7 INTs with a QB rating of 70.5. Despite all that talent on offense. It was the D that won them the championship.

[RandomVariable]

And Gronk is back.

[RandomVariable]

to bad our offense is much better than the saints and will leave the patriots wondering how they got destroyed.

Talib has been shutting down much more talented receivers than the ones you have. Dennard and Arrington have played well for the most part as well. Gronk will be at full strength by then. And Belichick has Manning's number.

[Houshmazode]

Talib has been shutting down much more talented receivers than the ones you have.