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  • arapaho
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    of course he will lie and say...it was a system to judge qbs ....it wasnt.

    it was a swayed sig contest to see what qb would win based upon a point system....heavily swayed to rivers and the bolts strengths...the bolts had hof te and rbs...probowl line...tuff d....they had the edge in everything acheivable....includeing wins and h2h wins.. and the huge points for getting to the post season...and more for winning a game....he put huge points for wins!!!..

    hes so full of crap

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  • Beagle
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    Originally posted by arapaho View Post
    Wrong...I remembered it....it was just a swayed contest that would allow rivers to win....you gave no points for a qb scrambling or rushing...zip....and you gave like 25% of achievable points for making the post season....where rivers came off a 11-5 season and played in the afc title game....the raiders and broncos were not expected to win more then five games and the bolts were a sb fav.....

    It wasn't to judge abs....it was a contest, set up to ensure rivers won

    Why would a qb escaping the rush, and running for a 1st down be free points?... it is an act of qbing,,,you simply knew rivers sucked at it and insisted it have no points...weak

    There's a reason it failed and was deleted, there's a reason nobody took the challenge here and even on the koolaid board,

    It was a cheap gimmick contest....Not a judgement of qbs
    and ding ding we have a winner. I am so glad you found that ...and still he denies

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  • arapaho
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    Originally posted by baphamet View Post
    with my formula that i put together which had everything to do with determining which player had the best season, simply winning but not performing would not have scored well.

    there were winning stats that would have racked up a lot of points in the playoffs but it was for things like 4th quarter comebacks and game winning drives under 2:00, which is huge for a QB IMO

    i am not saying it was a thread i made to display how i judge QB's. i mention that thread because that is how i have always judged them and would have never made a thread like that if i didn't.

    i don't judge QB's just by winning or just by stats based on what side of the coin i am arguing like you always claim and yes you do claim that.

    and yeah, i didn't have rushing yards and rushing TD's in there and you cried because you wanted free points for cutler.

    i am done talking about it, i don't care. you have to lie in order to smack talk with me and its just pathetic. find some real smack and come talk to me, until then
    Wrong...I remembered it....it was just a swayed contest that would allow rivers to win....you gave no points for a qb scrambling or rushing...zip....and you gave like 25% of achievable points for making the post season....where rivers came off a 11-5 season and played in the afc title game....the raiders and broncos were not expected to win more then five games and the bolts were a sb fav.....

    It wasn't to judge abs....it was a contest, set up to ensure rivers won

    Why would a qb escaping the rush, and running for a 1st down be free points?... it is an act of qbing,,,you simply knew rivers sucked at it and insisted it have no points...weak

    There's a reason it failed and was deleted, there's a reason nobody took the challenge here and even on the koolaid board,

    It was a cheap gimmick contest....Not a judgement of qbs
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  • baphamet
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    Originally posted by arapaho View Post
    heres your word play...i have not insisted that you stated qbs are ONLY judged by wins

    you keep throwing that out there... I have said you insisted that wins and loses is the biggest judge of a qb


    and your supposed thread on how you judge a qb, wasn't a thread on how you judge a qb,it was a season challenge on what qb would have the most points, based upon wins, tds, reaching the post season gave you more points...if I remember right it also took out rushing yards frm a qb or rush tds







    its not a thread explaining how a qb is judged like you insist fool

    heres a post from your thread explaining about the challenge and why bronco fans rejected it




    now you in your challenge took out scrambles, rush yards which are part of a qbs play...because both russel and cutler were heads above rivers on rush yards, saying it wasn't fair

    but then put a huge amount of points given to the qb that reaches the post season...which you don't get to unless you win games

    you lose sucka
    with my formula that i put together which had everything to do with determining which player had the best season, simply winning but not performing would not have scored well.

    there were winning stats that would have racked up a lot of points in the playoffs but it was for things like 4th quarter comebacks and game winning drives under 2:00, which is huge for a QB IMO

    i am not saying it was a thread i made to display how i judge QB's. i mention that thread because that is how i have always judged them and would have never made a thread like that if i didn't.

    i don't judge QB's just by winning or just by stats based on what side of the coin i am arguing like you always claim and yes you do claim that.

    and yeah, i didn't have rushing yards and rushing TD's in there and you cried because you wanted free points for cutler.

    i am done talking about it, i don't care. you have to lie in order to smack talk with me and its just pathetic. find some real smack and come talk to me, until then

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  • arapaho
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    Originally posted by baphamet View Post
    you mean you and beagle?

    you guys can make up whatever you want and pretend that i said it. this is why you are getting dangerously close to being ignored.

    i know what i said and i have never said i judge QB's only by winning or only by stats, it never happened.

    this is the last time i am going to mention this and if you keep lying about it further i will be adding you to ignore, this is all smack aside arapaho.

    heres your word play...i have not insisted that you stated qbs are ONLY judged by wins

    you keep throwing that out there... I have said you insisted that wins and loses is the biggest judge of a qb


    and your supposed thread on how you judge a qb, wasn't a thread on how you judge a qb,it was a season challenge on what qb would have the most points, based upon wins, tds, reaching the post season gave you more points...if I remember right it also took out rushing yards frm a qb or rush tds




    baphamet's

    Rivers vs Cutler vs Russell QB Challange!

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    http://forums.denverbroncos.com/show...40&postcount=1

    hey guys,

    i made this topic over on the donkey forums challenging them to a sig bet. the rules are in the link if you care to read them, but i will explain the basics.

    it is a QB challenge that compiles a bunch of different stats important to a QB bassed on a point system.

    the fans of the two losing QB's have to wear a sig made by the fans of the winning QB all off season

    its not a thread explaining how a qb is judged like you insist fool

    heres a post from your thread explaining about the challenge and why bronco fans rejected it

    qb that can rush around, scramble, avoid sacks, rollout, pull it in and run is part of a qbs game. its a legit stat that does and can impact a game

    and we are only talking about a few points

    then consider that ...how many of you expect either cutler or russell to earn any playoff points at all?

    how many believe without doubt rivers will get to the post season?

    if you read the aurguement they are saying either ommit both rushing and post season stats or include them both
    one is also saying leave it as is but ommit the post season stats unless both rivers and cutler get in..its just as unfair to have a poorer team with little shot of making the post season as it is to have a qb on two wooden legs

    now you in your challenge took out scrambles, rush yards which are part of a qbs play...because both russel and cutler were heads above rivers on rush yards, saying it wasn't fair

    but then put a huge amount of points given to the qb that reaches the post season...which you don't get to unless you win games

    you lose sucka

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  • baphamet
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    Originally posted by arapaho View Post
    aint no supposed about what you did say...am i the only one saying it?....nope....we all remember troll boy...
    you mean you and beagle?

    you guys can make up whatever you want and pretend that i said it. this is why you are getting dangerously close to being ignored.

    i know what i said and i have never said i judge QB's only by winning or only by stats, it never happened.

    this is the last time i am going to mention this and if you keep lying about it further i will be adding you to ignore, this is all smack aside arapaho.

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  • arapaho
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    aint no supposed about what you did say...am i the only one saying it?....nope....we all remember troll boy...

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  • baphamet
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    Originally posted by arapaho View Post
    Come on bap, we all know what you used to say, I know your realize how retarded t
    Some things were and are pushing for us to remember your supposed thread , but we still won't forget the other crap
    heh my "supposed" thread? yep, that about settles who really is the liar, huh?

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  • arapaho
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    Originally posted by baphamet View Post
    i'm showing you right here what i have said lol

    you claim i change what i say when it suits my argument yet even when you had cutler i used stats to judge them. you have been proven wrong and keep trying to deny it.

    and when you had cutler you did not use stats as the main reason to judge him? now all of a sudden its just rings?

    you are being a gigantic hypocrite.

    fact is, i have always used stats, winning, and everything important to a QB to judge them. you can pretend like that isn't true but that's all it is, pretend.
    Come on bap, we all know what you used to say, I know your realize how retarded t
    Some things were and are pushing for us to remember your supposed thread , but we still won't forget the other crap

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  • baphamet
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    Originally posted by arapaho View Post
    because bap, im not the only one here thsat knows it...your views change at a whim based upon what your qb ius doing, or what aurguement your trying to win

    we all remember , we all know, no matter what you say us long time smackers know what you have said
    i'm showing you right here what i have said lol

    you claim i change what i say when it suits my argument yet even when you had cutler i used stats to judge them. you have been proven wrong and keep trying to deny it.

    and when you had cutler you did not use stats as the main reason to judge him? now all of a sudden its just rings?

    you are being a gigantic hypocrite.

    fact is, i have always used stats, winning, and everything important to a QB to judge them. you can pretend like that isn't true but that's all it is, pretend.

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  • arapaho
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    Originally posted by baphamet View Post
    so why did i devise a formula to judge QB's based on stats and winning back when you had cutler? you are simply lying dude and we both know it.

    i give credit to manning for winning do i not? why would i give him credit for winning but then give him a free pass for losing?

    i called cutler a career loser because that is what he is. even since HS he never won anything even remotely substantial.

    to you that apparently means that i only judge him by winning. or when i say QB's are judged by wins and losses, to you that means QB's are only judged by wins and loses.

    basically the problem is you and the way you jump to conclusions and assume i say or mean things i never said in order to run smack.

    its just pure troll tactics, lame and tired tactics at that.
    because bap, im not the only one here thsat knows it...your views change at a whim based upon what your qb ius doing, or what aurguement your trying to win

    we all remember , we all know, no matter what you say us long time smackers know what you have said

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  • baphamet
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    Originally posted by arapaho View Post
    no bap


    what we are saying here is this... if our qb has the stats but the team is struggling...you demanded wins is how you judge qbs, not stats......cutlers a loser, right

    if your hero has the stats, you demand the yards and stuff is how you view a qbs play

    if our qb has the wins and stats...you demand post season win...manning is a choker, right?


    in OTHER WORDS ROD, YOUR A FISH FLIP FLOPPING AROUND WITH YOUR AURGUMENTS, ALWAYS RESORTING TO WHAT FITS YOUR NEEDS AT THE TIME.
    so why did i devise a formula to judge QB's based on stats and winning back when you had cutler? you are simply lying dude and we both know it.

    i give credit to manning for winning do i not? why would i give him credit for winning but then give him a free pass for losing?

    i called cutler a career loser because that is what he is. even since HS he never won anything even remotely substantial.

    to you that apparently means that i only judge him by winning. or when i say QB's are judged by wins and losses, to you that means QB's are only judged by wins and loses.

    basically the problem is you and the way you jump to conclusions and assume i say or mean things i never said in order to run smack.

    its just pure troll tactics, lame and tired tactics at that.

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  • arapaho
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    no bap


    what we are saying here is this... if our qb has the stats but the team is struggling...you demanded wins is how you judge qbs, not stats......cutlers a loser, right

    if your hero has the stats, you demand the yards and stuff is how you view a qbs play

    if our qb has the wins and stats...you demand post season win...manning is a choker, right?


    in OTHER WORDS ROD, YOUR A FISH FLIP FLOPPING AROUND WITH YOUR AURGUMENTS, ALWAYS RESORTING TO WHAT FITS YOUR NEEDS AT THE TIME.

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  • baphamet
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    Originally posted by arapaho View Post
    babs still lieing thru his teeth

    we all know very well what your shticks were....and no...your post on a.charger board...made to justify rivers, does not counter act the garbage you spewed here on a bronco board
    your trolling is getting tired and lame. you are damn lucky i cannot revive my rivers vs cuter QB challenge thread that i know for a 100% fact you clearly remember since you posted in it a lot.

    http://forums.chargers.com/showthread.php?t=57235

    it is a QB challenge that compiles a bunch of different stats important to a QB bassed on a point system.

    that post from the chargers message board that is linking to it (but it doesn't exist anymore) even mentions all the different stats i put in there. are you honestly trying to deny that thread was made back then?

    too bad lordtychron isn't here because he is the one that stickied it for a while lol

    there was a formula i created to judge QB's based on all sorts of different stats from the regular season and the playoffs, including winning.

    not just winning, not just performance or stats like you are claiming.

    its never been just about one thing, that is how i have always judged QB's and if you want to just keep pretending like i am lying just because you are left with nothing else to say and i can't prove otherwise due to the search function, then you can go right back to my ignore list because you are just wasting my time.

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  • fallforward3y+
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    Originally posted by Beagle View Post
    Now I get it...still bitter loss breath from 2011...Its Okay Fallfacefirst one day when you guys get over trading your starting Quarterback for a mirage like Kap you will drift back into mediocrity that the Bay Area has grown accustom too.
    Fallfacefirst, cute.

    Hadn't read this in my above post, but I get it now. So you think this is just some grudge against Eli for that game? Please, I don't even understand that thinking. If anything I'd want the team my team lost to to be good, not a garbage team.

    As for your points above, you were claiming Eli was carrying the team and that he had no help. I included playoffs because it is essential to the point that they would have never won the SB if they relied on the passing game to carry them all the way, simply because no team can. Without the defense stepping up, they never make it. You were saying he carried them as though he had no help all the way to the Super Bowl, which is false.

    They were 9-7 when they only had a good passing game, they went on a run when they had a defense and a better run game involved.

    As for the GB game, that was in New York. They probably do get beat pretty handily up in Lambeau if their defense does not step it up and hold them to 20, while also scoring a defensive TD. You just can't rely on going shot for shot with an offense like that consistently. Atlanta probably even beats them if their defense plays like they did for most of the season, but their defense was stout and they were able to win despite early offensive struggles.

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