Broncos are Imploding....are you kidding me Denver? You suck!

[Houshmazode]

Wrong



In other words, getting a prescription from a shady Doc that doesn't care IS easy. Putting that prescription under review and getting it to pass the sniff test for horse crap is a different story.



YOU, made them sound that way. Not me.

Once again, 4% of the population needs it. The rest don't. You implying that you have tons of friends that go and get prescriptions from Doctors that clearly don't rigorously investigate whether or not their patient needs it isn't helping your argument, and implies nothing about me.


Made up lie, or they weren't paying any attention. I'd say that too if I was caught taking something I wasn't supposed to. All NFL rookies are required to attend meetings that explain the drug policy every year, and players are sent weekly e-mails etc. in regards to rule changes, and additions to the drug policy. Not knowing it's against the rules doesn't mean you get to do it without repercussions.

Do you believe everything you are told?

Man, you are one gullible mutha



Can you pawn those Dean's list acclamations? Because with lines of logic like the ones you've demonstrated, you're going to be hard pressed making it in the real world

Don't worry about him, he completely ignored my post where I wrecked him as you did on the same subject. College kids are so cute. It's hilarious how things change when you get to the real world.

[Houshmazode]

Excuses..?

Sorry you missed the point.

Or, are you actually saying that Manning is unaffected by weather and performs up to his norms in all sorts of inclement conditions.....?..?

LOL. Brady is 'lights out' above Manning in performances in bad weather. Hell, it's almost as if Tommy thrives on it, while Peyton seems to succumb to it.

And I don't think I'm the first one to have noticed this phenomena, but you may be the last one to have recognized it.

Apparently your reading and comprehension skills are pretty terrible because I said nothing about how Manning or Brady play in certain weather conditions. The point was both teams played on the same field in the same conditions. Nice attempt at trying to change the subject though.

[Thors Hammer]

You're not actually comparing the '85 Bears to the '06 Bears, are you, in coming up with that opinion?

It seems that way to me, but I suppose you could be referring to the score. It was pretty pathetic, I guess, but against one of the greatest Ds of all time, I manage to live with the memory.

Ummm no, read your post, you claimed the '06 Bears were the worst team to play in a Super Bowl. I stated that the '85 Pats were. They were the team nobody to see the Bears play. He'll everyone outside of New England wanted to see the rematch with the Dolphins.

Speaking of lopsided scores, wasn't Denver's last performance a whole lot worse, given that the NE offense with Tony Eason in charge managed to score more points than the vaunted, record-setting Denver "attack"..?

Yeah this Super Bowl was a debacle, but it doesn't compare to '89 when we got run off the field by the 9ers. If Montana wanted to, he could have hung 70+ on the Broncos. That 49er team was a juggernaut.

[ERoyal248]

It gave up a lot of points to Philly, NYG regular season, and baltimore towards the end of the season. It wasn't terrible that year, nut nothing like our dynasty years.

They gave up 21 and 17 points in the SB's.

Hardly anything crazy, those losses fair or not are on the QB, especially the 07 game.

[Mr Bojangles]

Worst team to play in a Super Bowl?

As a Pats fan you know that distinction falls on the '85 Patriots right?

You're not actually comparing the '85 Bears to the '06 Bears, are you, in coming up with that opinion?

It seems that way to me, but I suppose you could be referring to the score. It was pretty pathetic, I guess, but against one of the greatest Ds of all time, I manage to live with the memory.

Speaking of lopsided scores, wasn't Denver's last performance a whole lot worse, given that the NE offense with Tony Eason in charge managed to score more points than the vaunted, record-setting Denver "attack"..?

[Thors Hammer]

HaHaHa and a Ho-dee-ho-ho!

Wow.....can you imagine...Having to play in the pouring rain! I guess I should doff my cap to your icon. maybe the League should erect a statue or something for that wondrous feat!

As a big fan, I'm sure you still get down on your knees at night and thank the Almighty that He saw fit to get the lowly Bears, the worst team to ever grace a SB venue, to the NFC Championship, that season. Otherwise, your boy would, most likely, be 0-3 in the Big Game and threatening Jim Kelley's record string!

Darn, don't things get so much tougher in the postseason than they are in the regular? That's a real shame.

BTW...I assume that you moved from Ft Wayne to Colorado, after your hero bailed on the Colts, and left you lost, confused and depressed. But hopefully, your move will be rewarded with another title, after a rather shaky start in Denver's playoff opportunities, if the Fates can arrange another miracle like the Bears to line up against!

Weather "didn't bother him as much as of lately" .....are you kidding, or did you not watch the regular season Broncos-Patriots game last season?

Worst team to play in a Super Bowl?

As a Pats fan you know that distinction falls on the '85 Patriots right?

[58Miller]

It gave up a lot of points to Philly, NYG regular season, and baltimore towards the end of the season. It wasn't terrible that year, nut nothing like our dynasty years.

What does the regular season have to do with him only scoring 14 pts? You guys give him a pass? That team was built around him and he didn't show up that's why they lost.
I don't care that the Broncos o-line was getting beat and Manning had to force throws, this team was built around him and we didn't have a chance because he had a bad game period. Same goes for Brady in his teams two losses.

[TommyBrady12]

The Pats D gave up 17 points in the 2007 SB, since when is that bad?

Are they supposed to pitch a shutout for Tommy?

More excuses for Brady, the more things change, they stay the same.

Never Brady's fault, always some excuse for him.

It gave up a lot of points to Philly, NYG regular season, and baltimore towards the end of the season. It wasn't terrible that year, nut nothing like our dynasty years.

[Mr Bojangles]

YOU DON'T SAY!!

Let me explain this in small words you'll be sure to understand..........
Brady has played his entire career in an OUTDOOR stadium in a COLD WEATHER climate.
Manning has played his entire career (until now) in a INDOOR stadium in a WARM climate.
Now who do you think is better adjusted to play in the cold?
This is like saying Peyton is 'lights out' above Brady in performances in high altitude. Hell, it's almost as if Peyton thrives on it, while Brady seems to succumb to it.
Of course Brady plays better in cold weather.... DUH!!!
I don't think it has bothered Peyton so much as of lately. In his early years it was obvious.
And I wouldn't say "Bad weather" affects him. As we all know, Peyton is the only Super Bowl winning QB to play in the pouring down rain.
You are living in a fantasy world where you think Tommy Boy is the worlds greatest at everything. Its time to wake up.
You do realize that this year it will be a DECADE since Tommy Boy has won anything..... Right?

HaHaHa and a Ho-dee-ho-ho!

Wow.....can you imagine...Having to play in the pouring rain! I guess I should doff my cap to your icon. maybe the League should erect a statue or something for that wondrous feat!

As a big fan, I'm sure you still get down on your knees at night and thank the Almighty that He saw fit to get the lowly Bears, the worst team to ever grace a SB venue, to the NFC Championship, that season. Otherwise, your boy would, most likely, be 0-3 in the Big Game and threatening Jim Kelley's record string!

Darn, don't things get so much tougher in the postseason than they are in the regular? That's a real shame.

BTW...I assume that you moved from Ft Wayne to Colorado, after your hero bailed on the Colts, and left you lost, confused and depressed. But hopefully, your move will be rewarded with another title, after a rather shaky start in Denver's playoff opportunities, if the Fates can arrange another miracle like the Bears to line up against!

Weather "didn't bother him as much as of lately" .....are you kidding, or did you not watch the regular season Broncos-Patriots game last season?

[Mr Bojangles]

Wind is the bigger factor, not cold, but i will admit Brady is better in worse conditions.

Manning has played just fine in cold weather since coming to Den.

Fair enough, Roy.

I'll bet newby ManningRules wouldn't be so honest.

[Mr Bojangles]

There are legit reasons why a person might need steroids also. Why not make the same argument for that?

I'm not an expert on steroids, so why don't you explain all those legit reasons why a person might need them in order to play, other than the obvious strength-building and tissue regeneration?

Are you suggesting that any player who suffers from ADD or ADHD should be disqualified from a career in professional sports, solely because of the medication they may require?

Isn't that a bit like the anti-gun crowd insisting that the only way to end gun violence is to take the firearms away from all of us?

[bgpatsfan]

The NFL doesn't give out numbers on who does and doesn't have exemptions. The MLB does, and it's 9%. I would hardly call that many. If the NFL is similar that would be less than 200 players out of the nearly 1700 in the entire league. Unless you're inferring that the NFL has a more loosely controlled drug policy, or that NFL players are more prone to wanting to take Adderal.

And lets say you're right, and it is easy to get one. Why didn't Browner go get one then?

Sorry bud. You still fail, your argument sucks, and I feel sorry for your future employer.

Either way the number of exemptions are far more than the 4% of population who have ADHD. Does the NFL have a larger proportion of that 4%? Do people with ADHD tend to become better athletes and thus professional athletes?

Browner didn't get one because either he wasn't aware or he was an idiot an thought he could get away with it. Adderall awareness really wasn't high until 2012. Like Woodyard said in the article, there are thousands of supplements/meds etc that are banned; its hard to keep track of. Not to mention that the suspensions for Adderall have risen nearly 3 times since 2011. How many people heard of Adderall in the NFL before 2012?

My argument doesn't suck, you have proved nothing I have said wrong. There is very little either of us have to go on considering the NFL won't release the information on how many exemptions they have given, how many have applied for exemptions, how many players have perscriptions, etc.

I wouldn't feel sorry for my future employer.. they are getting a very valuable employee.

I feel sorry for you, for having to use personal attacks in an attempt to perceivably add to your credibility.

[kishzilla]

Guess your argument about exemptions not being hard to come by just went out the window... Only 4 percent of the population "needs" it, but many players Woodyard knows personally enough to know their medication have exemptions.

The NFL doesn't give out numbers on who does and doesn't have exemptions. The MLB does, and it's 9%. I would hardly call that many. If the NFL is similar that would be less than 200 players out of the nearly 1700 in the entire league. Unless you're inferring that the NFL has a more loosely controlled drug policy, or that NFL players are more prone to wanting to take Adderal.

And lets say you're right, and it is easy to get one. Why didn't Browner go get one then?

Sorry bud. You still fail, your argument sucks, and I feel sorry for your future employer.

[bgpatsfan]

Wrong



In other words, getting a prescription from a shady Doc that doesn't care IS easy. Putting that prescription under review and getting it to pass the sniff test for horse crap is a different story.



YOU, made them sound that way. Not me.

Once again, 4% of the population needs it. The rest don't. You implying that you have tons of friends that go and get prescriptions from Doctors that clearly don't rigorously investigate whether or not their patient needs it isn't helping your argument, and implies nothing about me.


Made up lie, or they weren't paying any attention. I'd say that too if I was caught taking something I wasn't supposed to. All NFL rookies are required to attend meetings that explain the drug policy every year, and players are sent weekly e-mails etc. in regards to rule changes, and additions to the drug policy. Not knowing it's against the rules doesn't mean you get to do it without repercussions.

Do you believe everything you are told?

Man, you are one gullible mutha



Can you pawn those Dean's list acclamations? Because with lines of logic like the ones you've demonstrated, you're going to be hard pressed making it in the real world

Adderall, a brand-name amphetamine most commonly prescribed for attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, can increase focus and provide a jolt of energy. Because of those advantages, it's banned under the NFL's drug policy for those who don't obtain a therapeutic-use exemption. Broncos linebacker Wesley Woodyard said he knows of many players who have exemptions to use Adderall

Guess your argument about exemptions not being hard to come by just went out the window... Only 4 percent of the population "needs" it, but many players Woodyard knows personally enough to know their medication have exemptions.

I wonder why MLB would release the number of Adderall exemptions, but NFL would not. Maybe its because baseball has bigger issues with steroids? Maybe the NFL wants to take a hard line on Adderall, but won't say how many exemptions due to discrediting their "hard line" stance on the drug. Its a mental disorder, there is no full proof test for ADHD. Guys will fake it and the whole childhood doctor history is a load of bull; maybe they weren't diagnosed as children?

I also love the fact how you are taking shots at Browner's character, but are overlooking the fact that Von was busted for the very same thing and has failed more drug tests/had much more serious transgressions since entering the league.

[ManningRules]

Excuses..?

Sorry you missed the point.

Or, are you actually saying that Manning is unaffected by weather and performs up to his norms in all sorts of inclement conditions.....?..?

LOL. Brady is 'lights out' above Manning in performances in bad weather. Hell, it's almost as if Tommy thrives on it, while Peyton seems to succumb to it.

And I don't think I'm the first one to have noticed this phenomena, but you may be the last one to have recognized it.

YOU DON'T SAY!!

Let me explain this in small words you'll be sure to understand..........
Brady has played his entire career in an OUTDOOR stadium in a COLD WEATHER climate.
Manning has played his entire career (until now) in a INDOOR stadium in a WARM climate.
Now who do you think is better adjusted to play in the cold?
This is like saying Peyton is 'lights out' above Brady in performances in high altitude. Hell, it's almost as if Peyton thrives on it, while Brady seems to succumb to it.
Of course Brady plays better in cold weather.... DUH!!!
I don't think it has bothered Peyton so much as of lately. In his early years it was obvious.
And I wouldn't say "Bad weather" affects him. As we all know, Peyton is the only Super Bowl winning QB to play in the pouring down rain.
You are living in a fantasy world where you think Tommy Boy is the worlds greatest at everything. Its time to wake up.
You do realize that this year it will be a DECADE since Tommy Boy has won anything..... Right?