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  • Thecooltune
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    Originally posted by samparnell View Post
    I wonder when Richard Sherman will be tested for PEDs?
    He will be tested as everyone will based on what the collective bargaining agreement says.

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  • Thecooltune
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    Originally posted by 86Elwayfan View Post
    So what say you Seachicken fans? Should Sherman be your highest paid player? Are you all giddy in your seats yet?
    I don't care who the highest paid player is, or isn't for that matter. All I care about is seeing them keep the foundation of this team together. They seem to be doing just fine in that area.

    Besides, it seems as though Sherman is the most recognizable player nationally, so ........

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  • onanygivensunda
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    Originally posted by samparnell View Post
    I wonder when Richard Sherman will be tested for PEDs?
    I'm guessing that he has been tested a number of times since his appeal was upheld near the end of the 2012 season.

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  • samparnell
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    I wonder when Richard Sherman will be tested for PEDs?

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  • 86Elwayfan
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    Originally posted by onanygivensunda View Post
    Do you have a source for that?... or are you making an assumption?
    From Pro Football Focus (Sorry can't get the table to format...)


    Player Tm Shdw WR1 WR2 WR3 Other Slot Cov. TA %Ct Yds TD
    Richard Sherman SEA 0 27% 31% 12% 15% 4% 8.8 58 51.7 421 2
    Byron Maxwell SEA 0 29% 23% 17% 25% 7% 7.9 45 51.1 274 2
    Last edited by 86Elwayfan; 06-06-2014, 03:24 PM.

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  • onanygivensunda
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    Originally posted by Joshecalpoly View Post
    Since Maxwell lined up against #1 receivers more often...
    Do you have a source for that?... or are you making an assumption?

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  • Joshecalpoly
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    Originally posted by hawksfan76 View Post
    If you think Talib is the better CB LOL @ you. Go stick your head back in the sand son. Your clueless if you believe this.
    Well Talib was always on #1 receivers so its hard to actually say. Though when you look at CB's a mistake that is made is you need to look at the group. If a team throws to Sherman and he stops a TD or bats down a pass thats fine but most QB's go with matchups and if the other side has a better match up thats where they are going not because of Sherman but because his counterpart is not able to handle the receiver who moved to the other side where sherman never goes.

    If you look at the unit of the Pats where Talib covered the #1 more often then many corners did all year, he himself doesnt have great numbers mostly because he was consistently pit against top tier receivers but he did have a larger percentage of those stops then Sherman did. Now look at them as a whole the NE Pats and consider the WPA and EPA the 2 CB groups generate. The Pats are a better unit as a whole, this is in large part because they have a better #1 corner. Since Maxwell lined up against #1 receivers more often you need to compare his numbers to Talibs and in that case Talib wins.

    As a unit our starting 3 were 9th in PD + INTs do you think we were the 9th best CB unit in the league?
    Last edited by Joshecalpoly; 06-04-2014, 02:34 PM.

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  • arapaho
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    Originally posted by hawksfan76 View Post
    You know that Sherman was the least targeted CB in the NFL last year right? It just proves your just talking from your, well you know what.
    and in that how many times was he covering #1 wrs, or #2's, #3's

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  • hawksfan76
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    Originally posted by Joshecalpoly View Post
    Considering that Maxwell actually faced the #1 receiver more often whose to say he wasnt. Heck teams actually shied away from Maxwell more often then Sherman and it wasnt because they were challenging him its because between the 2 Sherman was allowing more plays. Yes Sherman gets an INT more often but as we learned with Deltha INT's can lead to people misconstruing the significance of a corner, because the best corner prevents the pass from occurring at all and sometimes those guys that get the most INT's are also allowing the most TD's
    You know that Sherman was the least targeted CB in the NFL last year right? It just proves your just talking from your, well you know what.

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  • hawksfan76
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    Originally posted by 58 broncomaniac View Post
    Because 10 already have a better corner already and I figure probably about 5 or so would not even want to deal with that headache. He is just like Asomugha great in the Raiders scheme ordinarily boring everywhere else.
    If you think Talib is the better CB LOL @ you. Go stick your head back in the sand son. Your clueless if you believe this.

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  • onanygivensunda
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    Here's a pretty fair article from PFF that addresses many of the points in this thread.

    https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...chard-sherman/

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  • Joshecalpoly
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    Originally posted by 58 broncomaniac View Post
    Keep telling yourself that whatever makes you feel good. Maxwell will be a better corner than Sherman this year. Have Sherman play like Peterson for 1 whole game and watch him get shredded. He is good in Seattles scheme covering non elite WR's. If he was the best ever the Broncos would not have the WR with the Superbowl record for receptions. Why would Manning challenge Sherman when he was covering his 4th option and had no time to progress to even his second.
    Considering that Maxwell actually faced the #1 receiver more often whose to say he wasnt. Heck teams actually shied away from Maxwell more often then Sherman and it wasnt because they were challenging him its because between the 2 Sherman was allowing more plays. Yes Sherman gets an INT more often but as we learned with Deltha INT's can lead to people misconstruing the significance of a corner, because the best corner prevents the pass from occurring at all and sometimes those guys that get the most INT's are also allowing the most TD's

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  • 58 broncomaniac
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    Originally posted by rsrobinson View Post
    You know, prior to the Super Bowl Peyton Manning said he would have no problem challenging Sherman but when the game came he rarely did. That should tell you all you need to know about what Manning thinks about Sherman.

    In fact, during the playoffs Brees, Kaepernick, and Manning all avoided Sherman like the plague. In three games he was targeted only seven times, gave up just two completions for 10 yards, no touchdowns, and deflected two passes including the famous one which led to the interception at the end of the 49ers game. So when everything was on the line during the playoffs, opposing QBs threw everywhere but in Sherman's direction and he usually made them pay when they did.

    Sherman is every bit as good as he says he is.
    Keep telling yourself that whatever makes you feel good. Maxwell will be a better corner than Sherman this year. Have Sherman play like Peterson for 1 whole game and watch him get shredded. He is good in Seattles scheme covering non elite WR's. If he was the best ever the Broncos would not have the WR with the Superbowl record for receptions. Why would Manning challenge Sherman when he was covering his 4th option and had no time to progress to even his second.

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  • rsrobinson
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    Originally posted by 58 broncomaniac View Post
    Because 10 already have a better corner already and I figure probably about 5 or so would not even want to deal with that headache. He is just like Asomugha great in the Raiders scheme ordinarily boring everywhere else.
    You know, prior to the Super Bowl Peyton Manning said he would have no problem challenging Sherman but when the game came he rarely did. That should tell you all you need to know about what Manning thinks about Sherman.

    In fact, during the playoffs Brees, Kaepernick, and Manning all avoided Sherman like the plague. In three games he was targeted only seven times, gave up just two completions for 10 yards, no touchdowns, and deflected two passes including the famous one which led to the interception at the end of the 49ers game. So when everything was on the line during the playoffs, opposing QBs threw everywhere but in Sherman's direction and he usually made them pay when they did.

    Sherman is every bit as good as he says he is.
    Last edited by rsrobinson; 05-31-2014, 10:57 PM.

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  • Joshecalpoly
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    Originally posted by Mr Bojangles View Post
    Good observation, Josh. Not many, besides you, me and Bill realized this fact.
    Not true most people do, because they realize that Sherman very rarely played against #1 receivers which means someone had to and thats the player opposite them, this inflated shermans numbers but deflated his companions on the opposite side. Sherman is probably the best non shutdown corner in the game but teams didnt shy away from him because he did allow a lot of catches and in all honesty the players opposite of him were actually shadowing there receivers very well. Carter had similar numbers to Browner and Maxwell when he started because like Seattle CB's he was known to mug receivers though he was a bit more obvious about it and well unlike Carroll, Fox got tired of the flags, though he was going against #2 receivers DRC was going against #1.

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