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  • Originally posted by Garfield View Post
    IN other words he is a head case with a Jeff George complex.
    I wouldnt necessarily say that actually Forte leads many receivers in receptions. His problem is he doesnt go through his progressions and leaves players open on the field at times and targets guys that are in double coverage while he stares them down. Cutler doesnt target his TE's nearly enough despite them usually being in single coverage and dropping fewer balls then anyone on the team. They are very reliable but he ignores them.

    He only goes deep 18% of the time which isnt that much comparably problem is hes very reliant a set of guys and stares them down and waits for them to get open or keeps going back to them in his reads. Hes better then he was 2 years ago where he threw to his favorite receiver 40% of the time but hes overly reliant on Jeffrey and its sometimes makes it hard for Jeffrey to actually make plays. His progressions tend to mostly go Jeffrey, Marshall, Bennett, Forte Though he ignores players like Rosario when they are on the field despite the fact he catches nearly everything that goes his way. He will normally not go outside this corps of guys and will bounce back to Jeffrey even if hes not open

    Now Kap has a Jeff George complex
    Last edited by Joshecalpoly; 12-20-2014, 11:53 PM.
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    • Originally posted by rogue719 View Post
      Oh please. Under Plummer, who was struggling with a new offensive coordinator, we were 7-4 and had already played the toughest part of our schedule. With Cutler under center we went 2-3 and missed the playoffs.
      Please WHAT????
      Broncos when Plummer was benched turned into an all flash no substance team - is that what you are arguing against?


      Originally posted by rogue719 View Post
      Yeah, except the teams we were beating under Tebow were essentially .500 ball clubs who struggled against our defense and their own defense went into a prevent mode in the final minutes, trying to keep everything in front of them. There wasn't a lot of tape on Tim at that point, and teams got caught with the pants down after watching him lead the NFL in three-and-outs for the first 55-58 minutes of the game. We still lost to the good teams and then once everyone had tape on Timmy, we even lost to the bad teams, like Buffalo and the then-NFL-worst KC Chiefs where Timmy went 6/22 for something like 60 yards. We lost that game 7-3 and Tebow was clearly the worst QB in the NFL.

      Actually, after watching Timmy all through the 2011 season, watching what little playing time he got in preseason with the Jets and, the next year, the Patriots, there is clearly a reason his NFL career is over. The kid has heart, lots and lots of heart. What he doesn't have are skills to play QB in a passers league at this level.
      Tebow is out of the league because no one is sure he will succeed and the backlash from the people pro/con that have a love or a hate relationship to him, makes him not worth the risk.

      Tebow is everything Cutler is not and reverse.

      While I neither agree nor disagree with you on the skill side, he is an unfinished chapter in the NFL. Tebow played 16 games and compared to Orton's last 16 in Denver he had 450% the wins of Orton with much the same team. Orton has been the saviour in Buffalo and there is a pretty good chance that Tebow would have been better.

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      • Originally posted by BroncoFanDK View Post
        Please WHAT????
        Broncos when Plummer was benched turned into an all flash no substance team - is that what you are arguing against?




        Tebow is out of the league because no one is sure he will succeed and the backlash from the people pro/con that have a love or a hate relationship to him, makes him not worth the risk.

        Tebow is everything Cutler is not and reverse.

        While I neither agree nor disagree with you on the skill side, he is an unfinished chapter in the NFL. Tebow played 16 games and compared to Orton's last 16 in Denver he had 450% the wins of Orton with much the same team. Orton has been the saviour in Buffalo and there is a pretty good chance that Tebow would have been better.
        Tebow lacked the mechanics but had the intangibles, Cutler has the mechanics but lacks the intangibles. Though I highly question boths football IQ. Which in my opinion is what you need to succeed (not that the others arent important). Emotional maturity though is the reason that most highly touted players especially QB's fail in the league and at times Cutlers lack there of is what has gotten him into the most trouble with his teammates and fans. Cant say the same thing for Tebow though, except the fact he missed several opportunities like playing in another League or at another position to stay relevant and be more likely to compete for another job down the road
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