Start Brock Osweiler now vs the Raiders or wait? You choose.

[Beagle]

regular season? who cares about regular season titles? i thought it was all about winning championships in Denver? obviously elway doesn't think regular season titles matter or fox would still be in Denver.

Well I know winning anything if pretty foreign to Chargers fans so lets explain how it works..first you have to have regular season success..(I said success not titles) in order to win Championships like AFC West Championships then ACF Championships and then ultimately NFL Championships... and it is about winning NFL Championships but you have to have the opportunities first.You wouldn't know what I mean but thats really seems to be the topic now So lets address it .



Chargers fans talking about about Mannings failures or his pay is hilarious considering their own QBs inability to even get in the post season for the most part for basically the same money and head to head lol not even a debate ...How many times have we been told we are only contenders because of our "rented QB" and thats been reinforced by everyone here saying we are going to have to rebuild now if he retires obviously no talent at all in Denver and its all Manning ..why is it Rivers cant elevate a team to those levels? Baph if Rivers gets credit for out playing Sanchez as a rookie then Manning wins the Brady debate because he has out played him in most of his losses or does that only apply when we are talking about the failure of a franchise QB Rivers? a

I know you hate to have your own hypocrisy thrown in your face and will try and deflect of just ignore the post but thats okay because I know you read it and have no good argument. I'm sure you might "try".


This is the Broncos division to lose next year as well because the only team that has a chance to dethrone us has a failure at QB, unless the back surgery goes bad then you can fall back on 1 of the 2 young quarterbacks you have had on your roster the last three years just waiting for a chance behind a legend...oh wait thats the Broncos In Elway we dont have to trust we KNOW!

[Joshecalpoly]

regular season? who cares about regular season titles? i thought it was all about winning championships in Denver? obviously elway doesn't think regular season titles matter or fox would still be in Denver.

Many have said the Bills are well built for the playoffs yet somehow magically they didnt make it in, I wonder why?

In this league you need a good QB to get you through the regular season, unless your D is so overwhelming they can make up for it. Thats the secret here, you cant win in the playoffs if you hardly ever go.

[Joshecalpoly]

you mean the rookie QB he outplayed? yeah, we seen rivers with a lot of talent with the same outcome that has unfolded in Denver, whats your point?

and saying the chargers not making the playoffs with the #1 offense and defense really doesn't do much for your argument. its not like rivers was the problem then, especially when you have the leagues #1 offense.

Rivers has had 5 years where he was in the top tier in not turning over the ball, the only year you missed the playoffs when that happened was 2010. His decision making has actually cost you every other time youve missed. Though the year hes referring to happens to be 2010. The only problem that year with Rivers was the yards per completion and the number of sacks he took sitting to long in the pocket

[baphamet]

Nope..but it confirms your delusional..We have seen Rivers with as much or more talent get put out by a Rookie QB...we have seen Rivers with the number 1 Offense and defense in the league not even make the playoffs...That definitely answered your question and then some :thumb:

you mean the rookie QB he outplayed? yeah, we seen rivers with a lot of talent with the same outcome that has unfolded in Denver, whats your point?

and saying the chargers not making the playoffs with the #1 offense and defense really doesn't do much for your argument. its not like rivers was the problem then, especially when you have the leagues #1 offense.

[baphamet]

At least we got r egular season results for our money...what are the Chargers getting for their $17,416,668 besides mediocrity?

regular season? who cares about regular season titles? i thought it was all about winning championships in Denver? obviously elway doesn't think regular season titles matter or fox would still be in Denver.

[Beagle]

Can you imagine Rivers with all that talent? You guys could be heading for the Super Bowl this year. Does this answer your question?

Nope..but it confirms your delusional..We have seen Rivers with as much or more talent get put out by a Rookie QB...we have seen Rivers with the number 1 Offense and defense in the league not even make the playoffs...That definitely answered your question and then some :thumb:

[NoRingNoGlory]

At least we got r egular season results for our money...what are the Chargers getting for their $17,416,668 besides mediocrity?

Can you imagine Rivers with all that talent? You guys could be heading for the Super Bowl this year. Does this answer your question?

[Beagle]

nah, there is still hope that manning will be back next year to milk that 17 mill the broncos will pay him

At least we got r egular season results for our money...what are the Chargers getting for their $17,416,668 besides mediocrity?

[Joshecalpoly]

Apparently he did have an undisclosed injury all along.

You called it man. Manning sunk the ship and got his coach and entire coaching staff fired.

Good one.

Or more likely the coaching staff knew about the injury a month ago as its been reported and looked at Brock (in the many practices Manning has actually missed since then) and decided that Manning on 1 leg was better then Brock on 2

If Manning is not healed by FA or draft expect them to bring in a QB to compete with Brock for the backup and or starting position

[baphamet]

Welcome to the Brock Osweiler Era

nah, there is still hope that manning will be back next year to milk that 17 mill the broncos will pay him

[NoRingNoGlory]

Welcome to the Brock Osweiler Era

[NoRingNoGlory]

The Broncos are not going to bench Manning for three whole weeks unless he has an undisclosed injury that the organization is hiding (Manning would never agree to that nor should he). The Broncos need to stay the course and go down with the ship. I wonder about John Fox but that isn't my call to make.

Apparently he did have an undisclosed injury all along.

You called it man. Manning sunk the ship and got his coach and entire coaching staff fired.

Good one.

[NoRingNoGlory]

Denver fans, its become apparent that Manning is quickly going down hill.
This very well could be his last year in the NFL. Manning has major major issues and advancing in the playoffs doesn't look bright by any stretch of the imagination. So, what exactly can your back up QB do? I say why not test the waters with the Raiders and see what the future of the Broncos can do. I mean why should Peyton even play in this game? He obviously needs a sitz bath and some strong laxitive.

I chuckled when I saw this video of Ossy getting bent at Manning for being a ball hog when clearly the back up QB should have went in after the beating the Raiders and up that far well into the 4th qtr:

http://blogs.denverpost.com/broncos/...manning/30804/



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Elway should have listened to me. Well I think he's listing now isn't he?

Welcome to the Osweiler Era Denver fans (man that sounds like some sort of strange hybrid wiener dog breed).

Now Vote Denver.

Keep Manning or Start Osweiler?

Welcome Denver fans to the Osweiller

[johntbronco]

I refuse to answer your stupid poll because of the way the question is worded.

[58Miller]

Denver fans, its become apparent that Manning is quickly going down hill.
This very well could be his last year in the NFL. Manning has major major issues and advancing in the playoffs doesn't look bright by any stretch of the imagination. So, what exactly can your back up QB do? I say why not test the waters with the Raiders and see what the future of the Broncos can do. I mean why should Peyton even play in this game? He obviously needs a sitz bath and some strong laxitive.

I chuckled when I saw this video of Ossy getting bent at Manning for being a ball hog when clearly the back up QB should have went in after the beating the Raiders and up that far well into the 4th qtr:

http://blogs.denverpost.com/broncos/...manning/30804/



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No Ring based on this argument you would have benched Elway in 97 after two blowout road losses week 15 and 16. That old man went on to win back to back Superbowls.