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  • #46
    Originally posted by baphamet View Post
    you mean by signing peyton manning and sanders? that's literally all he did. he didn't build that offense, that was all manning. sanders is by far his best move he has made in terms of bringing in talent for the offense.
    So a coaching staff and a surrounding cast doesn't matter?

    If that's the case why didn't Manning put up those numbers his entire career with Marvin Harrison and Edgerrin James in Indianapolis?

    Not only did John Elway put the surrounding cast in place for Peyton Manning to create the greatest offense of all time but he also created one of the best defenses of all time that won Super Bowl 50.

    You I'm surprise we don't have more haters like you on here but people now days aren't as deranged as you. Theycan see the talent for what it is and they can see what John Elway did and they appreciate it, they're not on here pissing and moaning and arguing their stupid dogmatic case about it. Most people can appreciate it for what it is. Time

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    • #47
      Originally posted by baphamet View Post
      you mean by signing peyton manning and sanders? that's literally all he did. he didn't build that offense, that was all manning. sanders is by far his best move he has made in terms of bringing in talent for the offense.
      All he did is build the highest scoring offense and a Superbowl winning defense in 5 years.
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      • #48
        Originally posted by 58Miller View Post
        All he did is build the highest scoring offense and a Superbowl winning defense in 5 years.
        Didn't you know, McDingleberry built those teams!!!!
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        • #49
          Originally posted by 58Miller View Post
          Siemien is trash? What were Rivers numbers his first 11 games of his career?

          Elways is horrible putting an offense together. Didn't he build the leagues highest scoring offense all time?
          the greatest ever, most well rounded, flashiest afc west qb....rivers first 11 starts

          2440 yards......13 tds...6 ints 221 ypg..............with a very good oline, HOF TE, HOF RB

          trevor

          2730................16 tds....7 ints.......248ypg....with a horrible oline and as bap says...junk TEs and garbage RBs
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          • #50
            Originally posted by arapaho View Post
            the greatest ever, most well rounded, flashiest afc west qb....rivers first 11 starts

            2440 yards......13 tds...6 ints 221 ypg..............with a very good oline, HOF TE, HOF RB

            trevor

            2730................16 tds....7 ints.......248ypg....with a horrible oline and as bap says...junk TEs and garbage RBs
            Wow I guess with a healthy team full of Pro Bowl players Phillip Rivers was trash, according to Baphs take on Siemien.
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            • #51
              Originally posted by baphamet View Post
              you mean by signing peyton manning and sanders? that's literally all he did. he didn't build that offense, that was all manning. sanders is by far his best move he has made in terms of bringing in talent for the offense.

              2010 offensive starters , season prior to elway

              orton
              Moreno
              j Gaffney
              BLoyd
              royal
              grahm
              beadles,
              clady
              kuper,
              Walton
              harris




              2013....best offense

              manning
              decker
              DT
              welker
              Moreno
              JT
              clark
              beadles
              rameriz
              vasques
              franklin


              you were saying
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              • #52
                Originally posted by 58Miller View Post
                Wow I guess with a healthy team full of Pro Bowl players Phillip Rivers was trash, according to Baphs take on Siemien.
                that's what it looks like doesn't it...imagine if trevor had
                LT
                LoNEAL
                gates
                Mcneil
                dielman
                hardwick'
                goff
                olivea
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                • #53
                  Originally posted by arapaho View Post
                  that's what it looks like doesn't it...imagine if trevor had
                  LT
                  LoNEAL
                  gates
                  Mcneil
                  dielman
                  hardwick'
                  goff
                  olivea
                  That's weird because Baphs is always painting the picture that if Rivers could just get a healthy group around him how good he would be.
                  Meanwhile Tom Brady keeps winning despite losing Gronk and Amendola, Stafford loses Megatron and his pinky and puts up MVP stats anyway, Sam Bradford has no oline or AP and the Vikings are in the playoff picture still.
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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by 58Miller View Post
                    That's weird because Baphs is always painting the
                    picture that if Rivers could just get a healthy group around him how good he would be.
                    Meanwhile Tom Brady keeps winning despite losing Gronk and Amendola, Stafford loses Megatron and his pinky and puts up MVP stats anyway, Sam Bradford has no oline or AP and the Vikings are in the playoff picture still.
                    You know that was his thing..."I never use injury excuses"

                    But every year it's just another excuse after excuse

                    One year it's the defense...next year it's special teams...next year coaching and playcalling,..then oline...next year injured rbs...then injured oline...then Injured wrs

                    It's always a reason rivers doesn't make it anywhere...just never the chokester himself
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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by arapaho View Post
                      You know that was his thing..."I never use injury excuses"

                      But every year it's just another excuse after excuse

                      One year it's the defense...next year it's special teams...next year coaching and playcalling,..then oline...next year injured rbs...then injured oline...then Injured wrs

                      It's always a reason rivers doesn't make it anywhere...just never the chokester himself
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                      Originally posted by baphamet
                      are you talking career or right now? because i don't see how you can say manning is top 5 even healthy.dude will never be a top 5 QB again, he is done.

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