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  • #16
    Originally posted by TommyBrady12 View Post
    I guess the broncos were proven to have cheated the salary cap.
    I DK why you have to take offense to everything.

    Is stacks not 100% accurate with this statement? You know he is so why do you have to come out and point out something the Broncos have done when they have nothing to do with the conversation?

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Sam_Z View Post
      I DK why you have to take offense to everything.

      Is stacks not 100% accurate with this statement? You know he is so why do you have to come out and point out something the Broncos have done when they have nothing to do with the conversation?
      Because stack is 100% wrong. There was no direct evidence brady did anything - just circumstantial stuff. And i am just pointing out his hypocrisy. Besides, there was direct evidence that the broncos cheated the salary cap.
      Super Bowl Wins: Brady - 6 Elway - 2 Manning - 2 (played well in none and took HGH)

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      • #18
        Originally posted by TommyBrady12 View Post
        Because stack is 100% wrong. There was no direct evidence brady did anything - just circumstantial stuff. And i am just pointing out his hypocrisy. Besides, there was direct evidence that the broncos cheated the salary cap.
        No he is right you need to change your sig to.."Butt hurt 24/7"
        Originally posted by baphamet
        are you talking career or right now? because i don't see how you can say manning is top 5 even healthy.dude will never be a top 5 QB again, he is done.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by TommyBrady12 View Post
          Because stack is 100% wrong. There was no direct evidence brady did anything - just circumstantial stuff. And i am just pointing out his hypocrisy. Besides, there was direct evidence that the broncos cheated the salary cap.
          I'm 100% right. Denver was punished for the Salary whoops..... They admitted it, payed the piper, and moved on. The thing that is wrong in regards to Denver is how you all think you know what happened and it gave them an advantage on the field. I'm not going to repeat or provide the write ups on it again as others have OVER and OVER for you. Do some research to understand what happened.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by Stackhouser View Post
            I'm 100% right. Denver was punished for the Salary whoops..... They admitted it, payed the piper, and moved on. The thing that is wrong in regards to Denver is how you all think you know what happened and it gave them an advantage on the field. I'm not going to repeat or provide the write ups on it again as others have OVER and OVER for you. Do some research to understand what happened.
            I've made that exact statement to the kid multiple times over in the past.

            I've also gone on to explain to him how a class owner like Pat Bowen, stood up and not only assumed responsibility, but he apologized and took care of the fines without argument.

            Unlike Robert Crap (Oops I mean Kraft) who continues to whine about his friend Roger Goodell mistreating his team of cheetahs and then proceeds to cry himself over Russian president Vladmir Putin Jacking his deflate gate Super Bowl ring.

            If you're a person that believes in karma, I would say justice is served in this situation because Kraft probably really didn't deserve that ring in the first place.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Sam_Z View Post
              I've made that exact statement to the kid multiple times over in the past.

              I've also gone on to explain to him how a class owner like Pat Bowen, stood up and not only assumed responsibility, but he apologized and took care of the fines without argument.

              Unlike Robert Crap (Oops I mean Kraft) who continues to whine about his friend Roger Goodell mistreating his team of cheetahs and then proceeds to cry himself over Russian president Vladmir Putin Jacking his deflate gate Super Bowl ring.

              If you're a person that believes in karma, I would say justice is served in this situation because Kraft probably really didn't deserve that ring in the first place.
              You can't explain anything. You have a habit of posting fake news articles that you believe are true.

              If karma means 4 more super bowls after the first ring that Putin got, I'll take it. And kraft doesn't care too much about that ring since he just had another one made.
              Last edited by TommyBrady12; 06-21-2017, 11:24 AM.
              Super Bowl Wins: Brady - 6 Elway - 2 Manning - 2 (played well in none and took HGH)

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Stackhouser View Post
                I'm 100% right. Denver was punished for the Salary whoops..... They admitted it, payed the piper, and moved on. The thing that is wrong in regards to Denver is how you all think you know what happened and it gave them an advantage on the field. I'm not going to repeat or provide the write ups on it again as others have OVER and OVER for you. Do some research to understand what happened.
                Yes, it could have helped Denver on the field since Elway was paid INTEREST. This interest was NOT included in denver's salary cap figures from 96-98, so Elway got paid MORE than he was supposed to. Since this money (the interest) was not included in the cap number, Denver could have gotten more players on the field with this money that ultimately helped them win. For example, if Elway wanted $20 million to play, but said he'll take $18 million in deferred salary plus $2 million in interest, then Denver basically paid him under the table and got around the salary cap. So it's not just about deferring salary. And unless you can prove to me that the interest was just a few thousand dollars, then I am forced to believe it helped denver on the field.
                Last edited by TommyBrady12; 06-21-2017, 11:25 AM.
                Super Bowl Wins: Brady - 6 Elway - 2 Manning - 2 (played well in none and took HGH)

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by TommyBrady12 View Post
                  You can't explain anything. You have a habit of posting fake news articles that you believe are true.

                  If karma means 4 more super bowls after the first ring that Putin got, I'll take it. And kraft doesn't care too much about that ring since he just had another one made.
                  Show me one piece of fake news that Ive posted? I'm calling you out you silly kid and if you are referring to the Orgnx XV Vigor? I can't help the fact that the NFL had the article removed but it was there and they do have the power to do such things.

                  And yeah like you'd know how Kraft especially after he asked president trump (publicly) to help his sorry ass get the ring back.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by TommyBrady12 View Post
                    Yes, it could have helped Denver on the field since Elway was paid INTEREST. This interest was NOT included in denver's salary cap figures from 96-98, so Elway got paid MORE than he was supposed to. Since this money (the interest) was not included in the cap number, Denver could have gotten more players on the field with this money that ultimately helped them win. For example, if Elway wanted $20 million to play, but said he'll take $18 million in deferred salary plus $2 million in interest, then Denver basically paid him under the table and got around the salary cap. So it's not just about deferring salary. And unless you can prove to me that the interest was just a few thousand dollars, then I am forced to believe it helped denver on the field.
                    Does interest count against an NFL salary cap?

                    So if Elway was paid two million in interest years down the road, when did it count against the salary cap?

                    I mean hell if Tommy the cheetah took a pay cut in order to defer money to a later date and Robert Kraft out of the kindness of his heart says here's an extra two million as a gift out of my pocket, how the hell does that count against the cap let alone be considered interest?

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Sam_Z View Post
                      Does interest count against an NFL salary cap?

                      So if Elway was paid two million in interest years down the road, when did it count against the salary cap?

                      I mean hell if Tommy the cheetah took a pay cut in order to defer money to a later date and Robert Kraft out of the kindness of his heart says here's an extra two million as a gift out of my pocket, how the hell does that count against the cap let alone be considered interest?
                      the interest was not included as part of the salary cap. it is basically a way to hide salary.
                      Super Bowl Wins: Brady - 6 Elway - 2 Manning - 2 (played well in none and took HGH)

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by TommyBrady12 View Post
                        the interest was not included as part of the salary cap. it is basically a way to hide salary.
                        NOW..... I want proof.......
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Stackhouser View Post
                          NOW..... I want proof.......
                          elway didnt win a superbowl until the salary cap cheating. he didnt have enoguh so they cheated to sign ,ore play makrs.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Sam_Z View Post
                            Show me one piece of fake news that Ive posted? I'm calling you out you silly kid and if you are referring to the Orgnx XV Vigor? I can't help the fact that the NFL had the article removed but it was there and they do have the power to do such things.

                            And yeah like you'd know how Kraft especially after he asked president trump (publicly) to help his sorry ass get the ring back.
                            Organ XV Vigor was not an NFL article. It was in ESPN and you fell for it hook, line and sinker.
                            Super Bowl Wins: Brady - 6 Elway - 2 Manning - 2 (played well in none and took HGH)

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Stackhouser View Post
                              NOW..... I want proof.......
                              Why would denver disclose, in 97 and 98, the fact they were going to pay elway and davis interest at later date?
                              Super Bowl Wins: Brady - 6 Elway - 2 Manning - 2 (played well in none and took HGH)

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by TommyBrady12 View Post
                                Organ XV Vigor was not an NFL article. It was in ESPN and you fell for it hook, line and sinker.
                                39 year old Quarter Back playing the best football of his career in the best physical shape of his career and in then this article comes out and then it's suddenly nonexistent after only a few hours, I'm sure Roger Goodelle had nothing to do with it.

                                Not only was it in an article that suddenly disappeared from ESPN but it was all over the radio yet somehow it was fake sure Tammy anything to support your argument.
                                But if it was fake why was it on ESPN webpage tell me that?


                                Now are you gonna show me any post where I reported fake news or you just gonna keep running your stinking mouth? By the way I'm sure they still sell Oral spray in the stores to help take care of all that foul smelling crap you spew out every day.

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