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  • #31
    We don't need no stinkin' defense.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by hardwork View Post
      We don't need no stinkin' defense.

      To win this year you will cause you are not going anywhere with that JV of a defense
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      • #33
        Originally posted by hardwork View Post
        We don't need no stinkin' defense.

        Brady is not going to save your team in all of the games they play. Welcome to reality.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by hardwork View Post
          We don't need no stinkin' defense.

          Gotta love trophy polish SMACK!!!! SMDH
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          • #35
            Originally posted by mozzerpete View Post
            One thing is for sure, the Broncos D they are not!
            What does it matter whose defense or offense is ranked higher if you don’t win the super bowl?
            Super Bowl Wins: Brady - 6 Elway - 2 Manning - 2 (played well in none and took HGH)

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Beagle View Post
              Smith was stationary vs Your team and he put up more yards and TDs than he did vs the Skins



              sCam had 44 yards rushing and the rookie had 41


              Smith didnt run because he didnt have too not because you played contain. The other 2 ran because in truth its the first thing they do when the primary is covered. Your defense just sucks
              You are making my point. Playing contain as a strategy against running QBs only works if the DBs lock down the receivers. Since our DBs were blowing coverages left and right, Alex Smith had a field day.
              Super Bowl Wins: Brady - 6 Elway - 2 Manning - 2 (played well in none and took HGH)

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Stackhouser View Post
                Denver was such an offensive juggernaut in 2015 too!!! 22 points per game..... Super Bowl 50 Champs

                This year they are currently at 24 points per game......


                Just saying.
                Every year is different. In 2015 you were 13-3 and had home field advantage. This year you probably won’t be so lucky with KC and Pittsburgh most likely getting the 1 and 2 seeds.
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                Last edited by TommyBrady12; 10-04-2017, 07:58 AM.
                Super Bowl Wins: Brady - 6 Elway - 2 Manning - 2 (played well in none and took HGH)

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by TommyBrady12 View Post
                  You still need to be able to score points in order to beat the chiefs and your offense isn’t that prolific.
                  Do you understand how our defense works? We stop the run, their run game won't be able to put up the numbers or points it typically does, we don't give up first downs by air or ground (we've given up 9 first downs on the ground this year)

                  So theoretically, no we don't need to score points. if our defense holds them to 17 points, we just have to score 18. With the way our defense is playing, that isn't unrealistic at all.
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by TommyBrady12 View Post
                    Every year is different. In 2015 you were 13-3 and had home field advantage. This year you probably won’t be so lucky with KC and Pittsburgh most likely getting the 1 and 2 seeds.
                    KC won't win more than 10 games. Everyone is all sorts of hyped up about them because they beat you. They are overrated and will come crashing back to earth this week when they lose to the Texans.
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Freyaka View Post
                      KC won't win more than 10 games. Everyone is all sorts of hyped up about them because they beat you. They are overrated and will come crashing back to earth this week when they lose to the Texans.
                      Now all of a sudden the texans are a good team? A few weeks ago when NE beat them they were below average according to you all...

                      I agree Houston will beat them on sunday.
                      Super Bowl Wins: Brady - 6 Elway - 2 Manning - 2 (played well in none and took HGH)

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Freyaka View Post
                        KC won't win more than 10 games. Everyone is all sorts of hyped up about them because they beat you. They are overrated and will come crashing back to earth this week when they lose to the Texans.
                        How many QBs making their playoff debut win the super bowl the same year? I can only think of Tom Brady and Kurt Warner.
                        Super Bowl Wins: Brady - 6 Elway - 2 Manning - 2 (played well in none and took HGH)

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by TommyBrady12 View Post
                          What does it matter whose defense or offense is ranked higher if you don’t win the super bowl?
                          First you have to have a realistic chance to win the Superbowl . Whats the saying "Offense wins Championships"? Nah that's not it...what was it
                          Originally posted by baphamet
                          are you talking career or right now? because i don't see how you can say manning is top 5 even healthy.dude will never be a top 5 QB again, he is done.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Beagle View Post
                            First you have to have a realistic chance to win the Superbowl . Whats the saying "Offense wins Championships"? Nah that's not it...what was it
                            There have been teams with bad/average regular season defenses that end up winning the super bowl - 2009 Saints, 2006 Colts, 2011 Giants and 2007 Giants. Once you get in the tournament, anything can happen. The key is to be playing your best defensive football in January. By the same token, I have seen great NE patriots teams play awesome early on in the season only to struggle when it counted the most. This is why I keep saying throw the September/October stats out the window.
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                            Last edited by TommyBrady12; 10-04-2017, 01:03 PM.
                            Super Bowl Wins: Brady - 6 Elway - 2 Manning - 2 (played well in none and took HGH)

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by TommyBrady12 View Post
                              How many QBs making their playoff debut win the super bowl the same year? I can only think of Tom Brady and Kurt Warner.
                              What does that have to do with the price of rice in China?
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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Freyaka View Post
                                Do you understand how our defense works? We stop the run, their run game won't be able to put up the numbers or points it typically does, we don't give up first downs by air or ground (we've given up 9 first downs on the ground this year)

                                So theoretically, no we don't need to score points. if our defense holds them to 17 points, we just have to score 18. With the way our defense is playing, that isn't unrealistic at all.
                                This Denver defense is not the 85’ bears, 00’ Ravens or 02’ Bucs. For that formula to work (ie- shut opponents down defensively and score just enough to win), you really need have the ability to annhiliate teams defensively. Denver almost lost to Oakland because they couldn’t score enough points. Denver should have won that game handily by a score of 30-10. What do you think Ben Roethlisberger will do? Or Alex Smith?
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                                Last edited by TommyBrady12; 10-04-2017, 01:15 PM.
                                Super Bowl Wins: Brady - 6 Elway - 2 Manning - 2 (played well in none and took HGH)

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