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    Former Texans QB David Carr thinks Buffalo will beat Sacksonville. (That is not a typo.) Do you agree with him, and why or why not?

    The Buffalo Bills made the playoffs for the first time since 1999. Can they keep the celebration going past Wild Card Weekend? David Carr says yes. Plus, year-end offensive player rankings.


    Carr clearly contradicts himself in the article by writing "all signs point to" the Bills beating the Jaguars . . . after mentioning the fact they can't win without an injured LeSean McCoy. Go figure. The truth is if your RB is on the injury report for any reason and the opponent's best run defender spent half of the season on your team, all signs point the other direction.

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    I can’t see the jags do anything but slaughter them with shady not playing, or not running hard
    Last edited by EddieMac; 01-02-2018, 04:57 PM.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by EddieMac
      I can’t see the jags do anything but slaughter them with shady not playing, or not running hard
      Run defense was Jacksonville's weakness before you-know-who moved down from Buffalo. Now it is obvious why Tom Coughlin traded a sixth round pick for him on Halloween.
      Last edited by EddieMac; 01-02-2018, 04:57 PM.

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      • #4
        the bills are straight garbage for a playoff team, if they don't have mccoy they have absolutely no chance to win. the jags don't look great right now either but still considerably better than the bills with an injured mccoy.

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        • #5
          I think the Jaguars will be either boom or bust this offseason. They'll either lose this weekend or they'll go to the Super Bowl. They're the team best built to go into New England and beat the Patriots.

          The only way I think they lose to Buffalo is if they're overconfident and look past Buffalo to the second weekend. But with Marrone being the Jags coach (his history in Buffalo) and Dareus there to keep the defense on point, I don't see this one being competitive. It might end 17-3, but the score will flatter the Bills, the Jaguars are just a better team, and that defense is excellent.

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          • #6
            I don't believe in Jacksonville, but I sure as hell don't believe in Buffalo. But it will be close. 23-17 Jags or something like that.

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            • #7
              Bills will need at least 2 turnovers for 10 pts to win this game - maybe more if McCoy doesn't play.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by DevilSpawn
                I don't believe in Jacksonville, but I sure as hell don't believe in Buffalo. But it will be close. 23-17 Jags or something like that.
                How can you not believe in that defensive line? They can rush 3 or 4 and create havoc in the backfield. That's the way to beat Brady, get to him by rushing 3 or 4 and change up coverages continuously on the backend.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by DevilSpawn
                  I don't believe in Jacksonville, but I sure as hell don't believe in Buffalo. But it will be close. 23-17 Jags or something like that.
                  Do you believe in Sacksonville? It is one thing to have a mediocre offense, but if you have a pair of funcitoning eyeballs, you can't deny the defense is elite.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Butler By'Note
                    How can you not believe in that defensive line? They can rush 3 or 4 and create havoc in the backfield. That's the way to beat Brady, get to him by rushing 3 or 4 and change up coverages continuously on the backend.
                    The Jaguars rush four on almost every play. You know Sacksnville is elite when they rarely need to blitz. That said, they aren't going to New England in the divisional round. With the #3 seed, they will return to Pittsburgh.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Denver Scores
                      The Jaguars rush four on almost every play. You know Sacksnville is elite when they rarely need to blitz. That said, they aren't going to New England in the divisional round. With the #3 seed, they will return to Pittsburgh.
                      In my original post I explained it, I think Jacksonville either loses this weekend or goes to the Super Bowl. Just the way I see that team, which is why I talked about New England.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Butler By'Note
                        How can you not believe in that defensive line? They can rush 3 or 4 and create havoc in the backfield. That's the way to beat Brady, get to him by rushing 3 or 4 and change up coverages continuously on the backend.
                        Originally posted by Denver Scores
                        Do you believe in Sacksonville? It is one thing to have a mediocre offense, but if you have a pair of funcitoning eyeballs, you can't deny the defense is elite.
                        But I never said I didn't believe in their defense. I said I didn't believe in Jacksonville, the team. Well particularly Bortles. I believe in their defense and run game. But in a close game and a big throw is needed, would you trust Bortles? I don't. And if Jacksonville can't solve the run, I'm sure Belichick will make sure they have to stop the run, which will open up more options for Brady. They're 21st against the run so that's not catastrophic, but I doubt Belichick will let Jacksonville beat the Pats with their strength unless he has to because the run game isn't getting them anywhere.

                        We'll see, but at the end of the day if the matchup happens, it's still going to be Brady vs. Bortles. That's Godzilla vs. Barney.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Butler By'Note
                          In my original post I explained it, I think Jacksonville either loses this weekend or goes to the Super Bowl. Just the way I see that team, which is why I talked about New England.
                          I follow the one week rule: "Do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself." Meaning just worry about theb Bills game until it's over, then the Steelers gam,, with no sights set on the Patriotsi

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by DevilSpawn
                            But I never said I didn't believe in their defense. I said I didn't believe in Jacksonville, the team. Well particularly Bortles. I believe in their defense and run game. But in a close game and a big throw is needed, would you trust Bortles? I don't. And if Jacksonville can't solve the run, I'm sure Belichick will make sure they have to stop the run, which will open up more options for Brady. They're 21st against the run so that's not catastrophic, but I doubt Belichick will let Jacksonville beat the Pats with their strength unless he has to because the run game isn't getting them anywhere.

                            We'll see, but at the end of the day if the matchup happens, it's still going to be Brady vs. Bortles. That's Godzilla vs. Barney.
                            The run defense statistic was near the bottom before Halloween. The addition of Marcel Dareus changed that. The opposite happened in Buffalo. Great run defense when they had him, then terrible run defense after he moved south. So if we had #99 all season, our run defense would have been in the top 10. There were other factors, but the biggest one (literally) was the nose tackle position.

                            When the Jaguars play with a lead, Blake Bortles is good enough to stay ahead in the game. His problem is falling behind on the scoreboard. The big question for him therefore is wether the Bills can force him to win with his arm when the clock is ticking in the fourth quarter. With LeSean McCoy injured, it falls on Tyrod Taylor to win with his arm.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by DevilSpawn
                              But I never said I didn't believe in their defense. I said I didn't believe in Jacksonville, the team. Well particularly Bortles. I believe in their defense and run game. But in a close game and a big throw is needed, would you trust Bortles? I don't. And if Jacksonville can't solve the run, I'm sure Belichick will make sure they have to stop the run, which will open up more options for Brady. They're 21st against the run so that's not catastrophic, but I doubt Belichick will let Jacksonville beat the Pats with their strength unless he has to because the run game isn't getting them anywhere.

                              We'll see, but at the end of the day if the matchup happens, it's still going to be Brady vs. Bortles. That's Godzilla vs. Barney.
                              Godzilla vs. Barney!

                              One of the funniest lines I've read in awhile. Awesome. :thumb:
                              Adopted Bronco: DeMarcus Ware

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