i'll give credit where credit is due....

[DevilSpawn]

It's hilarious that to "debunk me" you had to dig up ancient history. My information was the last two decades, not back when our two teams were still in infancy.

Oh come now, Frey. It's not like you don't even hint at a team's entire history when the chips are down.

He's gotta find small victories. Our franchise is superior in every way when looking at the two franchises histories, but since right now at this present point in time Baph perceives us as weaker, it's a huge victory to rub in our noses.

Imagine if Baph took it further? Thank God for small victories, huh?

[Freyaka]

Oh come now, Frey. It's not like you don't even hint at a team's entire history when the chips are down.



Imagine if Baph took it further? Thank God for small victories, huh?

Big difference between Baph looking at one single point in time (last year) and me looking at the past two decades.

[bronx_2003]

I believe this is Mayock's final board, which was posted hours before the draft. He had Miller going to the Pats at 23 and calls it a great pick. My issue with the pick is that the Raiders should've traded down again and get Miller in the 20s. They probably couldn't pull off another trade and saw other teams in the 20s looking to take him.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000928583/article/mike-mayocks-2018-nfl-mock-draft-bills-trade-up-for-josh-allen

Persoanlly I think the Raiders would have been better coming away with -


I wouldn't have been mad at this scenario.

At the end of the day Miller is a good OT and should be a good job with Oakland, which is all that really matters. If I was a Raiders fan I would have been more shocked with PJ Hall, that seems like a big reach and there was a lot of talent on the board. They must really like him.

[DevilSpawn]

Big difference between Baph looking at one single point in time (last year) and me looking at the past two decades.

You didn't say the last 20 years, so I'm guessing it's the entire history since you said the two franchise's history. I didn't scan the whole thread so enlighten me. Which history were you referring to 1960-2017 or 1997-2017?

The difference here is that I'm playing the role of Frey and using our entire history in this argument. Quick question,

And how is talking about past our past rings any different than you talking about past success from the chargers from like a decade ago?

Yes, how is it different? 10 years, 20 years, 30 years, 58 years, doesn't matter. Look I get it, the Broncos franchise started playing football on August 31, 1997. But until it's confirmed, I'll assume they started on September 9, 1960.

Don't fear your past, Frey. Embrace it. It's part of your history, your culture, everything orange and blue. Don't disgrace the legacy of Floyd Little, Tom Jackson and John Elway's first 14 years. Breath in the stench that was and the sweet smell that is.

[DevilSpawn]

At the end of the day Miller is a good OT and should be a good job with Oakland, which is all that really matters. If I was a Raiders fan I would have been more shocked with PJ Hall, that seems like a big reach and there was a lot of talent on the board. They must really like him.

A lot of reaches tbh.

[Zealander]

Sig bet for a calendar year on who has the best record, Raiders or Broncos. Put your money where your mouth is as we celebrate less than 48 hours after the draft. :thumb:

Don't punk out, Eddie. Let's do this.

Your sig is fine the way it is...

[58Miller]

You didn't say the last 20 years, so I'm guessing it's the entire history since you said the two franchise's history. I didn't scan the whole thread so enlighten me. Which history were you referring to 1960-2017 or 1997-2017?

The difference here is that I'm playing the role of Frey and using our entire history in this argument. Quick question,


Yes, how is it different? 10 years, 20 years, 30 years, 58 years, doesn't matter. Look I get it, the Broncos franchise started playing football on August 31, 1997. But until it's confirmed, I'll assume they started on September 9, 1960.

Don't fear your past, Frey. Embrace it. It's part of your history, your culture, everything orange and blue. Don't disgrace the legacy of Floyd Little, Tom Jackson and John Elway's first 14 years. Breath in the stench that was and the sweet smell that is.

I don’t know what your talking about, 97?
Ever heard of the drive? The fumble? Those were classic bronco moments, the beat downs by NFC heavyweights NewYork, Washington, and San Fransico in the Super Bowl? Those hurt but built character, and prepared us for the horrible 96 layoff loss to Jacksonville, all that made the 97 season Super Bowl that much better.
And that’s just my take, i know there are Bronco fans on here from the orange crush era ( before i was born/ slash being made years).

I agree DS Raiders and Denver overall history ends with us both in a close race for the top of the AFC west all time.

[hardwork]

[Sam_Z]

Hey its the guy who lost to Nick Folles in super bowl 52
what will his answer be for this???
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[Sam_Z]

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Hey its the guy whos team lost to Nick Folles in super bowl 52
what will be mr. cheetahs answer for this???

[Mainrnxile]

It's good to know you guys are keeping track of the greatest QB in NFL History. It's amazing how he just keeps rewriting NFL records.

Anyway - excellent draft by all appearances for the Donks. They should win 6, maybe 7 games this season.

[58Miller]

It's good to know you guys are keeping track of the greatest QB in NFL History. It's amazing how he just keeps rewriting NFL records.

Anyway - excellent draft by all appearances for the Donks. They should win 6, maybe 7 games this season.

I hoping for 8!!!!!! I can dream right?😉

[Freyaka]

Dang it, you guys had to say pats fans three times, now we're stuck with them again until they get embarrassed and go hide.

[Freyaka]

You didn't say the last 20 years, so I'm guessing it's the entire history since you said the two franchise's history. I didn't scan the whole thread so enlighten me. Which history were you referring to 1960-2017 or 1997-2017?

Not to resort to trophy smack, but when was the last time your team sniffed one of these?

I suspect (though haven't taken the time to research yet) that we've been in last place over the last 20 years as many times as the Raiders have been in first place.

I totally said the last 20 years.

[Sam_Z]

I totally said the last 20 years.

Dude they were always lurking in here but way to ashamed of themselves and embarrassed to speak but you know how they obsess with us. They may have more Lombardi’s but you got to give them credit for understanding a true organization like Denver’s enough to obsess on their fan page!