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  • Mainrnxile
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    Originally posted by 58Miller View Post
    Denver won 5 straight division titles, eat the Patriots twice in the conference championship, and a Super Bowl during Elways 8 seasons as GM. Elway has had 2 losing seasons out of 8. I get as a Patriot fan that sounds horrible, but I’m pretty sure 90% of the league would sign up for that today if they were promised that for their team the next 8 years.
    I agree in general, but the trend is going against Elway. 3 years without a playoff appearance and 11 wins total over the last 2 years - And, there are zero indications that he has a plan to improve the offense as the defense continues to age out.

    Personally, I want the Broncos playing post season football - So TB can trounce them like the last 2 meetings. He shouldn't retire with a losing record to Denver.

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  • baphamet
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    how many more years until 58miller decides to be a big boy and read/comprehend the posts before he responds to them?

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  • 58Miller
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    Originally posted by TommyBrady12 View Post
    I think the criticism of Elway has always been that he in the past relied too much on free agency to make the Broncos contenders rather than building a team from the ground up where they could compete for a decade. The Broncos were good for 3 years and poof, once those free agents got old/retired or demanded more money, the Broncos became a bad team.
    Denver won 5 straight division titles, eat the Patriots twice in the conference championship, and a Super Bowl during Elways 8 seasons as GM. Elway has had 2 losing seasons out of 8. I get as a Patriot fan that sounds horrible, but I’m pretty sure 90% of the league would sign up for that today if they were promised that for their team the next 8 years.

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  • TommyBrady12
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    Originally posted by 58Miller View Post
    Every GM in the league had a shot at Peyton in 2012, Elway landed him, case closed.....
    That was Elways job, and he took care of business.
    I think the criticism of Elway has always been that he in the past relied too much on free agency to make the Broncos contenders rather than building a team from the ground up where they could compete for a decade. The Broncos were good for 3 years and poof, once those free agents got old/retired or demanded more money, the Broncos became a bad team.

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  • baphamet
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    Robin Carlin
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    #Broncos Chris Harris Jr. just posted on Instagram: “He (Elway) got way too disrespectful”

    Lesson here is ....NEVER give a hometown discount. NEVER. The team doesn’t play nice & you don’t get rewarded for it.

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  • baphamet
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    Originally posted by jazzbodog View Post
    Once again, your lame "arm chair" analysis and opinions" of any team, GM, QB, coach, etc. have no meaning, substance or relevance when you say: "If I'm wrong I'll change my tune". Why put yourself in a position to admit you were wrong. Your just imitating a phony fortune teller.
    because most of the time i am not wrong. why put myself in a position where i could end up wrong? because i'm not a gutless whiner that says nothing that could come back and haunt me just because i'm scared to be wrong and just come to a smack forum and whine about people talking smack........

    all opinions can end up wrong, deal with it. how many "arm chair GM's" are in general discussions right now? go get yourself a box a tissues and wipe those tears from your face.

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  • jazzbodog
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    Originally posted by baphamet View Post
    i talk a lot of smack on elway but ive also said if the broncos return to even compete for SB's i will change my tune, let alone if they win another one during his watch.
    Once again, your lame "arm chair" analysis and opinions" of any team, GM, QB, coach, etc. have no meaning, substance or relevance when you say: "If I'm wrong I'll change my tune". Why put yourself in a position to admit you were wrong. Your just imitating a phony fortune teller.

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  • Sam_Z
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    Originally posted by 58Miller View Post
    And I give Elway a lot credit for resurrecting our team from a 4-12 Josh McDaniels catastrophe, despite Elway having no idea how to run a football team. He took the job at the request of Pat Bowlen to save the Broncos reputation.
    .....that said if Elway don’t get us back to being a division champ and contender he will go down as 1 hit wonder GM.
    If I remember correctly, Elway the job under title of President of Football Operations.

    I guess that meant he was going through a hands on learning process. Then with pats blessing Xander’s was dismissed and John took over as GM.

    If I understood correctly, Pat was still a somewhat functional owner until the 2014 season. A lot of people will say that John did Xander’s dirty but I think everyone understood what was happening at the time.

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  • 58Miller
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    Originally posted by baphamet View Post
    i talk a lot of smack on elway but ive also said if the broncos return to even compete for SB's i will change my tune, let alone if they win another one during his watch.
    And I give Elway a lot credit for resurrecting our team from a 4-12 Josh McDaniels catastrophe, despite Elway having no idea how to run a football team. He took the job at the request of Pat Bowlen to save the Broncos reputation.
    .....that said if Elway don’t get us back to being a division champ and contender he will go down as 1 hit wonder GM.

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  • 58Miller
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    Originally posted by baphamet View Post
    show me a chargers GM that had one of the greatest QB's QB's of all time making him look better than they are? one only has to look at elway's record without manning to come to the conclusion that manning was a massive reason for that success.

    even shanarat didn't struggle after elway retired like elway has and shanrat got fired. what will be elway's fate? if he doesn't right the ship soon will be the same as shanarat's
    Every GM in the league had a shot at Peyton in 2012, Elway landed him, case closed.....
    That was Elways job, and he took care of business.

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  • baphamet
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    Originally posted by Sam_Z View Post


    I love it, just randomly throw that in there...

    I don’t always agree with his decisions and aside from resigning Jeff Heuerman, I’m liking this off season so far.

    If he wins another super bowl, his resume will look pretty accomplished and let’s be honest no body not even Belichick wins as many Super Bowls without a decent QB.
    i talk a lot of smack on elway but ive also said if the broncos return to even compete for SB's i will change my tune, let alone if they win another one during his watch.

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  • baphamet
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    Originally posted by 58Miller View Post
    Very true..... however Elway has achieved more than all Charger GM’s together
    show me a chargers GM that had one of the greatest QB's QB's of all time making him look better than they are? one only has to look at elway's record without manning to come to the conclusion that manning was a massive reason for that success.

    even shanarat didn't struggle after elway retired like elway has and shanrat got fired. what will be elway's fate? if he doesn't right the ship soon will be the same as shanarat's

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  • baphamet
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    Originally posted by Sam_Z View Post
    John Elway the QB was great!

    What he is doing right now as a GM has no bearing on his playing days or vice versa.

    John Elway the QB was great, John Elway the GM is still up for debate. His time without Manning is critical to that legacy.
    cant argue with that.

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  • 58Miller
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    Originally posted by Sam_Z View Post


    I love it, just randomly throw that in there...

    I don’t always agree with his decisions and aside from resigning Jeff Heuerman, I’m liking this off season so far.

    If he wins another super bowl, his resume will look pretty accomplished and let’s be honest no body not even Belichick wins as many Super Bowls without a decent QB.
    And that’s a big IF!!!!!..... this draft is huge!!!!

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  • Sam_Z
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    Originally posted by 58Miller View Post
    Very true..... however Elway has achieved more than all Charger GM’s together


    I love it, just randomly throw that in there...

    I don’t always agree with his decisions and aside from resigning Jeff Heuerman, I’m liking this off season so far.

    If he wins another super bowl, his resume will look pretty accomplished and let’s be honest no body not even Belichick wins as many Super Bowls without a decent QB.

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