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  • #16
    Originally posted by 58Miller View Post
    he doesn't support the broncos any more, makes sense closet chef fan now
    Uh no, I support the Broncos! I do not support John Elway over the Broncos as you do.

    You see I have more respect for the Broncos organization and Pat Bowlen before I place John Elway before him or his franchise!

    And before you recite the “super bowl victory and five straight division titles” Tell me how many other Super Bowl winning teams have experienced this level of drop off within five years of winning the Super Bowl?
    Last edited by Sam_Z; 09-23-2019, 09:37 AM.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by 58Miller View Post
      he doesn't support the broncos any more, makes sense closet chef fan now
      Nah, he just hates the patriots more than the chiefs. He couldn't help himself but defend the chiefs fan when I made my comment.
      Super Bowl Wins: Brady - 6 Elway - 2 Manning - 2 (played well in none and took HGH)

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      • #18
        Originally posted by TommyBrady12 View Post
        Nah, he just hates the patriots more than the chiefs. He couldn't help himself but defend the chiefs fan when I made my comment.
        How could anyone not like Mahomes?

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        • #19
          Originally posted by obi-groo View Post
          You better be nice to me....I'm sensitive....*snif*. When are the Patriots going to play a real team?
          Probably the same time the chiefs do

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Three peat View Post
            Probably the same time the chiefs do
            not that im getting inside this patsy vrs chiefs debate

            but the chiefs opponents have a record of 4-5

            the pats opponents have a record of 0-9
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            • #21
              Originally posted by arapaho View Post
              not that im getting inside this patsy vrs chiefs debate

              but the chiefs opponents have a record of 4-5

              the pats opponents have a record of 0-9
              The patriots are also super bowl champs and are 2-0 against Mahomes.
              Super Bowl Wins: Brady - 6 Elway - 2 Manning - 2 (played well in none and took HGH)

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              • #22
                Originally posted by TommyBrady12 View Post
                The patriots are also super bowl champs and are 2-0 against Mahomes.
                True enough....but the games were so close that it doesn't mean anything really. On another day it could have easily gone the other way.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by TommyBrady12 View Post
                  The patriots are also super bowl champs and are 2-0 against Mahomes.
                  that wasn't the issue was it...the question was posed, when will the pats plaay a real team

                  your son said when the chiefs do

                  my post simply showed the records of the two teams opponents
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Sam_Z View Post
                    Uh no, I support the Broncos! I do not support John Elway over the Broncos as you do.

                    You see I have more respect for the Broncos organization and Pat Bowlen before I place John Elway before him or his franchise!

                    And before you recite the “super bowl victory and five straight division titles” Tell me how many other Super Bowl winning teams have experienced this level of drop off within five years of winning the Super Bowl?
                    elway is the face of the broncos, so no you don't support the broncos.
                    Let's look at the teams who have won Superbowls, the broncos have had to replace SB winning coach and QB:
                    Patriots still have Superbowl winning coach and an QB they are 3-0
                    The eagles are 1-2, same coach new qb
                    The broncos are 0-3 ( Superbowl winning coach and an both retired)
                    seahawks 2-1 still have SB coach and qb
                    Ravens are 2-1 new qb same coach
                    Giants 1-2 new coach new qb
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by TommyBrady12 View Post
                      The patriots are also super bowl champs and are 2-0 against Mahomes.
                      elway is 2-1 vs the pats in the playoffs as GM, Chefs need to beat the pats in the postseason or they will be considered failures. The broncos were the last team to stop them in 2015.
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by 58Miller View Post
                        elway is the face of the broncos, so no you don't support the broncos.
                        Let's look at the teams who have won Superbowls, the broncos have had to replace SB winning coach and QB:
                        Patriots still have Superbowl winning coach and an QB they are 3-0
                        The eagles are 1-2, same coach new qb
                        The broncos are 0-3 ( Superbowl winning coach and an both retired)
                        seahawks 2-1 still have SB coach and qb
                        Ravens are 2-1 new qb same coach
                        Giants 1-2 new coach new qb

                        its like saying...I support the team

                        except Elway
                        and von
                        and flacco
                        and Fangio
                        and bolles
                        and chubb
                        and donnetal
                        and the front office
                        and the scouts
                        and the special teams coach


                        other then that I fully support the team
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by arapaho View Post
                          its like saying...I support the team

                          except Elway
                          and von
                          and flacco
                          and Fangio
                          and bolles
                          and chubb
                          and donnetal
                          and the front office
                          and the scouts
                          and the special teams coach


                          other then that I fully support the team
                          Either your with us or against us!!!!!! Elway is our GM and Flacco our Qb
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by 58Miller View Post
                            Either your with us or against us!!!!!! Elway is our GM and Flacco our Qb
                            If all you guys are patient….I bet at least one of those things changes before next year.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by obi-groo View Post
                              True enough....but the games were so close that it doesn't mean anything really. On another day it could have easily gone the other way.
                              Sure, but the point I was trying to make was that the Pat's can hold their own against top teams. They did what they were supposed to do against bottom feeder teams like Miami and the Jets...
                              Super Bowl Wins: Brady - 6 Elway - 2 Manning - 2 (played well in none and took HGH)

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by obi-groo View Post
                                If all you guys are patient….I bet at least one of those things changes before next year.
                                Well Flacco’s salary was spread out over next season, however we haven’t signed or extended anyone yet.
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