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  • I wish I were confident enough to come in here and tell you guys how KC is going to slaughter the Broncos...but I'm just not. A few weeks ago I would have. Maybe they turn it around before too much damage is done to the season....but they are going to have to prove it to me now.

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    • Originally posted by arapaho View Post
      OH SO YOUR NOT BLAMING THE OLINE, OK IS IT INJURIES?...OH WAIT COACHING ...THATS RIGHT ITS COACHING

      now you need to wonder why your team sucks despite the cupcake schedule
      I’ve blamed it on a lot of things. I don’t have to wonder, I am not concerned with searching for excuses at all costs like you do.

      You still haven’t answered my question, are you afraid? Why haven’t the offense picked up the new system yet?

      You think because your defense carried your team past two bad teams, that makes you a power house?

      Never seen someone so happy to be in third place before, oh how the mighty have fallen.
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      • Originally posted by arapaho View Post
        let me guess....Elway chose fangios starters in previous games...right? and forced Fangio to play them

        Let me guess, no matter how much your offense struggles you will just continue to think they are still learning the offense and will start performing at any moment now.
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        • Originally posted by baphamet View Post
          I’ve blamed it on a lot of things. I don’t have to wonder, I am not concerned with searching for excuses at all costs like you do.

          You still haven’t answered my question, are you afraid? Why haven’t the offense picked up the new system yet?

          You think because your defense carried your team past two bad teams, that makes you a power house?

          Never seen someone so happy to be in third place before, oh how the mighty have fallen.
          There is still a very less than stellar offensive line play in Denver. Fangio is very good for this team because he is a no non sense type of guy so as long as Elway allows Fangio to coach his coaches and hold them accountable, things should get better in theory but then again we have a ridiculous o-line still!
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          • Originally posted by Sam_Z View Post
            Fangio chose players already on the roster to play over Gotsis, Jewel and Parks...

            Ultimately Fangio could choose better personnel over Elway but what I’m having trouble understanding is why you care so much about it?

            I mean really, you don’t have a dog in the fight. If Elway sucks at finding talent, what the hell does that have to do with you or your immediate salty defense?

            I’ll tell you one thing and that is I will never share your opinions.

            I will never argue so blindly, I will always be a person who listens to reason unlike you.

            Even baph can stand up and admit when he’s wrong or when his team chose the wrong personnel which is saying a hell of a lot more than anyone can say for you.

            You chose to live in a drone controlled society so don’t get butt hurt when the rest of us refuse to live there like you!
            but you do have a dog in this fight since you continually blame every bit of bad on Elway

            wasn't this a knock on Elway? : Much improved defense I. Denver with Vic Fangio making the necessary adjustments and choosing his own personnel


            that's the way I took it and would imply Elway controlled who started and who didn't which is ludicrous...im thrilled that Fangio found a combination that works...if you were not suggesting that Elway forced him to play certain players...like gotsis over Purcell then I apologize
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            • Originally posted by baphamet View Post
              I’ve blamed it on a lot of things. I don’t have to wonder, I am not concerned with searching for excuses at all costs like you do.

              You still haven’t answered my question, are you afraid? Why haven’t the offense picked up the new system yet?

              You think because your defense carried your team past two bad teams, that makes you a power house?

              Never seen someone so happy to be in third place before, oh how the mighty have fallen.
              why hasn't your offense picked up its system yet despite playing a cupcake schedule??.... your offense with its long time qb, greatly and so much more talented roster, same offense, same OC, same WRs, same Rbs...same everything is only scoreing 2.7 more ppg and 32 more yards per game than the broncos team you state sucks

              and that's with the broncos playing 4 teams in the top 10 in defensive points allowed
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              • Originally posted by Sam_Z View Post
                There is still a very less than stellar offensive line play in Denver. Fangio is very good for this team because he is a no non sense type of guy so as long as Elway allows Fangio to coach his coaches and hold them accountable, things should get better in theory but then again we have a ridiculous o-line still!
                and do you have anything to go by that would suggest Elway wouldn't allow Fangio to coach his coaches? or hold them accountable? anything at all ?

                a quote, newspaper clip, interview...ANYTHING?


                you ever think that the broncos playing a brutal schedule with four games against teams in the top 10 in points allowed and 3 in the top 8 in sacks, might be a reason...on top of building a new offense
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                • Originally posted by arapaho View Post
                  but you do have a dog in this fight since you continually blame every bit of bad on Elway

                  wasn't this a knock on Elway? : Much improved defense I. Denver with Vic Fangio making the necessary adjustments and choosing his own personnel


                  that's the way I took it and would imply Elway controlled who started and who didn't which is ludicrous...im thrilled that Fangio found a combination that works...if you were not suggesting that Elway forced him to play certain players...like gotsis over Purcell then I apologize
                  So what if it is, quit worrying about it child! How I feel is how I feel and there is nothing you can do about it!
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                  • Originally posted by arapaho View Post
                    and do you have anything to go by that would suggest Elway wouldn't allow Fangio to coach his coaches? or hold them accountable? anything at all ?

                    a quote, newspaper clip, interview...ANYTHING?


                    you ever think that the broncos playing a brutal schedule with four games against teams in the top 10 in points allowed and 3 in the top 8 in sacks, might be a reason...on top of building a new offense
                    Why you think it’s any of your business is beyond me Rapaho but stop trying to troll me kid!
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                    • Originally posted by obi-groo View Post
                      I wish I were confident enough to come in here and tell you guys how KC is going to slaughter the Broncos...but I'm just not. A few weeks ago I would have. Maybe they turn it around before too much damage is done to the season....but they are going to have to prove it to me now.
                      I don't have confidence about this game, our defense is playing well...but im pretty sure we aint sacking mahomes 7 times
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                      • Originally posted by Sam_Z View Post
                        So what if it is, quit worrying about it child! How I feel is how I feel and there is nothing you can do about it!
                        so in other words...you wanna say your things, insinuate, push your hate....but wanna play turtle when called on it...that's fine son
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                        • Originally posted by Sam_Z View Post
                          Why you think it’s any of your business is beyond me Rapaho but stop trying to troll me kid!
                          im responding to posts on a bronco forum son
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                          • Originally posted by arapaho View Post
                            so in other words...you wanna say your things, insinuate, push your hate....but wanna play turtle when called on it...that's fine son
                            Nah that’s not it, like I said you aren’t one capable of listening to reason.

                            However Holding the General Manager accountable for his blunders IS NOT HATE, I don’t know where your malfunction lies but it’s far from hate.

                            Elway stinks at finding good player personnel.

                            Elway stinks at finding good offensive linemen in the draft (minus Risner) and free agency.

                            Elway’s judgement stinks sometimes...

                            That is how I feel so either sue me or get the hell over it!

                            Either way just stop with it child and let the grown ups talk.
                            Last edited by Sam_Z; 10-14-2019, 02:02 PM.
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                            • Originally posted by Sam_Z View Post
                              Nah that’s not it, like I said you aren’t one capable of listening to reason.

                              However Holding the General Manager accountable for his blunders IS NOT HATE, I don’t know where your malfunction lies but it’s far from hate.

                              Elway stinks at finding good player personnel.

                              Elway stinks at finding good offensive linemen in the draft (minus Risner) and free agency.

                              Elway’s judgement stinks sometimes...

                              That is how I feel so either sue me or get the hell over it!

                              Either way just stop with it child and let the grown ups talk.

                              reason isn't blaming him for everything from dictating to coaches who starts and who doesn't, who hes gonna get as assistant coaches, blaming him for every failed draft pick, or free agent acquisition
                              to chasing away kubiak( when the facts are he quit for health reasons

                              that isn't reason...that's obsession

                              you wanna throw your hate and obsession out there...its a free country I will respond

                              you keep insisting hes at fault as if these people had zero to do with it.

                              Matt Russell Director of Player Personnel
                              A.J. Durso Director of Pro Personnel
                              Mike Sullivan Director of Football Administration
                              Mark Thewes Director of Team Administration
                              Ray Jackson Director of Player Development
                              Mitch Tanney Director of Football Analytics
                              Brian Stark Director of College Scouting
                              Jordon Dizon Pro Scout
                              Eugene Armstrong Southwest Area Scout
                              Dave Bratten College Scouting Coord./Area Scout
                              Scott DiStefano Midwest Area Scout
                              Frantzy Jourdain Southeast Area Scout
                              Darren Mougey Western Regional Scout
                              Nick Schiralli Eastern Regional Scout
                              Bryan Chesin Midwest Area Scout
                              Patrick Walsh Pro Scout
                              Scott Flaska Lead Football Analyst
                              Rob Paton College/Pro Scout
                              Deon Randall College/Pro Scout
                              Eddie Simpkins Scouting Assistant
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                              • Originally posted by obi-groo View Post
                                I wish I were confident enough to come in here and tell you guys how KC is going to slaughter the Broncos...but I'm just not. A few weeks ago I would have. Maybe they turn it around before too much damage is done to the season....but they are going to have to prove it to me now.
                                Confidence....that's a tough feeling to have week to week right now in the AFC West.

                                However, I think Mahomes and the KC receivers might show up and point out that our pass defense still needs improvement. Hope I'm wrong!

                                I'm expecting anything and everything (good, bad, ugly) from both teams!
                                Utah Bronco Freak

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