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  • Bronco Offense. What's Going On?

    I'm a weak arm chair QB but to me, a few (negative?) aspects seem to be obvious with our offense.

    Passing game, Flacco is spending too much time in the pocket. Why?

    1) He's not effectively spotting open receivers / backs?
    2) Receivers / backs not getting open due to them not out smarting the defensive coverage?
    3) Weak / poorly conceived play call, lack of imagination?
    4) It's a no brainer, all of the above?

    Running game, too many plays straight up the middle. Why?

    1) It's seems like most rushing plays are left or right of the center. Yes, no, maybe?
    2) Is our offensive line not capable of consistent effective blocking to create quality gaps?
    3) Weak / poorly conceived play call, lack of imagination?
    4) It's a no brainer, all of the above?

    Puzzling!
    Utah Bronco Freak

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    You ever stop to think that we have an entirely new offensive scheme being designed and implemented

    Our OC is a rookie and is getting the kinks out, what he likes, what he doesn’t on the fly

    On top of the new OC and new playbook and scheme we have a new QB

    A new RT
    New center
    New rookie LG
    RG coming off IR
    And Sutton, Hamilton, Lindsey, freeman are young second year players learning their second offense in as many years and Fant is a rookie

    And they as a group only played 22 snaps in preseason
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    • #3
      Originally posted by jazzbodog View Post
      Puzzling!
      Not really...
      Last edited by TommyBrady12; 10-12-2019, 04:52 PM.
      Super Bowl Wins: Brady - 6 Elway - 2 Manning - 2 (played well in none and took HGH)

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      • #4
        Originally posted by jazzbodog View Post
        I'm a weak arm chair QB but to me, a few (negative?) aspects seem to be obvious with our offense.

        Passing game, Flacco is spending too much time in the pocket. Why?

        1) He's not effectively spotting open receivers / backs?
        2) Receivers / backs not getting open due to them not out smarting the defensive coverage?
        3) Weak / poorly conceived play call, lack of imagination?
        4) It's a no brainer, all of the above?

        Running game, too many plays straight up the middle. Why?

        1) It's seems like most rushing plays are left or right of the center. Yes, no, maybe?
        2) Is our offensive line not capable of consistent effective blocking to create quality gaps?
        3) Weak / poorly conceived play call, lack of imagination?
        4) It's a no brainer, all of the above?

        Puzzling!
        Joe Flacco and Emmanuel Sanders should both be on the same page by now, they’ve both worked in this system before. The 2015 broncos picked up a very similar system fairly quickly.

        Perhaps this team isn’t picking it up as quickly is due to the way it is being distributed to them.

        I remember hearing a story once where Bill Parcells was basically crapping all over a certain player on the New York Giants squad, when Bill Belichick stepped in and said “that’s enough bill. He is one of the smartest players on our team and if he is not picking it up, it is because you haven’t found a better way explain it to him”.

        I think that may be what is happening with this Broncos or hence they may need to change formulas if these guys don’t start clicking soon.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by arapaho View Post
          You ever stop to think that we have an entirely new offensive scheme being designed and implemented

          Our OC is a rookie and is getting the kinks out, what he likes, what he doesn’t on the fly

          On top of the new OC and new playbook and scheme we have a new QB

          A new RT
          New center
          New rookie LG
          RG coming off IR
          And Sutton, Hamilton, Lindsey, freeman are young second year players learning their second offense in as many years and Fant is a rookie

          And they as a group only played 22 snaps in preseason
          look at all those dumb excuses

          you ever stop to think about all the garbage QB's that have came and gone since manning retied might have something to do with it?

          no because you have defended every single one and have made these same type of excuses. rather than man up and admit they are not playing good you always go with these lame ass excuses, it's the same thing every single year.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by TommyBrady12 View Post
            Not really...
            exactly.....the broncos offense is about what most people thought it would be. the defense (up until the performance against my team) was the puzzling part.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by baphamet View Post
              look at all those dumb excuses

              you ever stop to think about all the garbage QB's that have came and gone since manning retied might have something to do with it?

              no because you have defended every single one and have made these same type of excuses. rather than man up and admit they are not playing good you always go with these lame ass excuses, it's the same thing every single year.
              That's rich coming from a Rivers fan. Your fan base so fiercely defended him from being labeled a poor sport, it has created unbelievable blinders on you guys.

              You can ask just about any Chargers fan their top 5 favorite Chargers of all time and you can bet Rivers is on that list.

              The fan bases favorite player has choked away the best opportunities that team has prob ever had.....time and time again. It's very rare a Rivers led teams beat a good QB, yet you guys still think he's got the potential of 12 years ago. Talk about excuse making.

              BTW isn't Rivers due for a new contract lol? I'm sure the team will reward him handsomely and the fan base will pretend it's 2006 all over again.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by atwaterandstir View Post
                That's rich coming from a Rivers fan. Your fan base so fiercely defended him from being labeled a poor sport, it has created unbelievable blinders on you guys.

                You can ask just about any Chargers fan their top 5 favorite Chargers of all time and you can bet Rivers is on that list.

                The fan bases favorite player has choked away the best opportunities that team has prob ever had.....time and time again. It's very rare a Rivers led teams beat a good QB, yet you guys still think he's got the potential of 12 years ago. Talk about excuse making.

                BTW isn't Rivers due for a new contract lol? I'm sure the team will reward him handsomely and the fan base will pretend it's 2006 all over again.
                of course he's a top 5 chargers player of all time on most chargers fans board, he's the best chargers QB of all time. you have been saying the same dumb things for years, pretending rivers is just some scrub and chargers fans are delusional in thinking he's a good QB. but how is he a poor sport exactly? that's just idiotic rival fans point of view. everyone loves rivers, even the guys he plays against including von miller.

                did you notice rivers getting in the face of one of your defensive players (can't remember who it was) last week during a play? that's just one of the reasons why we love rivers and that's not being a "poor sport" that's being a fiery competitor. oh and define "rare" you said that last year before he beat both mahomes and big ben
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by baphamet View Post
                  of course he's a top 5 chargers player of all time on most chargers fans board, he's the best chargers QB of all time. you have been saying the same dumb things for years, pretending rivers is just some scrub and chargers fans are delusional in thinking he's a good QB. but how is he a poor sport exactly? that's just idiotic rival fans point of view. everyone loves rivers, even the guys he plays against including von miller.

                  did you notice rivers getting in the face of one of your defensive players (can't remember who it was) last week during a play? that's just one of the reasons why we love rivers and that's not being a "poor sport" that's being a fiery competitor. oh and define "rare" you said that last year before he beat both mahomes and big ben
                  That's exactly what I was implying.......you are perfect proof. Early on Rivers was labeled (unfairly) as a poor sport because most general fans only saw the facial expressions and what were perceived as tantrums. You fans knew him better than most and fiercely defended him from this (unjust) label. That has put permanent blinders on your fan base as your still in defend at all cost mode..........no matter how many times he comes up short.


                  And you need to stop with the dramatic "scrub" reference. Nobody has ever called him scrub QB. He is a good QB that undoubtedly has issues with pressure situations. I have told you the same thing for years and years because it's true. I don't know what his mental issue is, but pressure situations (including facing good QBs) Rivers comes up short...... constantly.

                  As for beating good QBs, why don't you post his record against the better QBs of his generation?
                  Last edited by atwaterandstir; 10-13-2019, 10:46 AM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by arapaho View Post
                    You ever stop to think that we have an entirely new offensive scheme being designed and implemented

                    Our OC is a rookie and is getting the kinks out, what he likes, what he doesn’t on the fly

                    On top of the new OC and new playbook and scheme we have a new QB

                    A new RT
                    New center
                    New rookie LG
                    RG coming off IR
                    And Sutton, Hamilton, Lindsey, freeman are young second year players learning their second offense in as many years and Fant is a rookie

                    And they as a group only played 22 snaps in preseason
                    Pretty much this- we have already seen gradual improvement in some areas and I expect these players to become more and more comfortable with the offense and with each other's tendencies.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by atwaterandstir View Post
                      That's exactly what I was implying.......you are perfect proof. Early on Rivers was labeled (unfairly) as a poor sport because most general fans only saw the facial expressions and what were perceived as tantrums. You fans knew him better than most and fiercely defended him from this (unjust) label. That has put permanent blinders on your fan base as your still in defend at all cost mode..........no matter how many times he comes up short.


                      And you need to stop with the dramatic "scrub" reference. Nobody has ever called him scrub QB. He is a good QB that undoubtedly has issues with pressure situations. I have told you the same thing for years and years because it's true. I don't know what his mental issue is, but pressure situations (including facing good QBs) Rivers comes up short...... constantly.
                      what blinders? i have been critical of rivers at times, including this week when he for sure didn't play well against the broncos. the problem i constantly have around here is people always want to point the finger at rivers when they lose because its lazy and makes for good smack talk.

                      there have been times when rivers has choked in pressure situations, there also have been times when things have happened out of his control yet you would still blame him for those losses. for example, the jets playoff loss when his kicker who only missed two kicks all year missed three in that game and the defense got ran over in the running game.

                      or last year when the chargers lost to the pats and he didn't play bad at all but was under fire all game long and the defense couldn't stop the pats to save their lives. you can say that's simply rivers choking in a pressure situation but again, that's just lazy and makes for good smack talk but in my honest opinion not accurate at all.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by baphamet View Post
                        look at all those dumb excuses

                        you ever stop to think about all the garbage QB's that have came and gone since manning retied might have something to do with it?

                        no because you have defended every single one and have made these same type of excuses. rather than man up and admit they are not playing good you always go with these lame ass excuses, it's the same thing every single year.
                        Are we talking about three years ago???

                        Think fast

                        No

                        We talking about this year

                        So unless your feeble brain can grasp that perhaps stay in your injury excuse threads
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                        • #13
                          Hi^Jack alert
                          Red 98

                          Kareem rises to the top

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by arapaho View Post
                            Are we talking about three years ago???

                            Think fast

                            No

                            We talking about this year

                            So unless your feeble brain can grasp that perhaps stay in your injury excuse threads
                            oh but we talk about three years ago or even over a decade ago when it is convenient for you, don't we? now i'm supposed to believe the same dumb crap you have been saying? you're the only person here who is openly and unapologetic by being a complete and total hypocrite, it's just astonishing.

                            you make excuses constantly yet i'm an excuse maker when i mention a team that has been decimated much worse than yours (who you think have a talent issue which makes this even more amazing). then you have no issue making an excuse for a team losing to the chargers because they were without one damn guy??

                            you couldn't make this stuff up if you tried, that's some impressive hypocrisy for you, you sir would do well in politics.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by dizzolve View Post
                              Hi^Jack alert
                              lets be honest, this thread was going nowhere anyways. the problem is elway cant find a decent QB to lead his offense to save his life, that's the end of the thread topic right there.
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