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  • baphamet
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    Originally posted by jazzbodog View Post
    With all of the negative reasons, aka EXCUSES you just stated regarding your offense and the amount of time it takes to make or break a play, you should be grateful that the Sparklers are not 0-10, right? Meaning the four wins were astonishingly stupendous to say the least!
    Tell me whazz, which team is in the afc west basement right now and why do you go around here talking smack like your team isn’t bad?

    What’s Astonishing is how easily you detach from reality.

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  • jazzbodog
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    Originally posted by baphamet View Post
    This is sad man, I’m really starting to question if you even watch football.

    Let me attempt to explain something very basic and simple to you.

    Pressure can happen 3 seconds after the snap when the play is allowed to develop and the receivers can complete their routes.

    Pressure can also happen 1.5-2 seconds after the ball is snapped where a QB has no chance to make the completion if he’s a pocket passer like rivers And the play isn’t allowed to develop.

    This is the exact reason why he checks down so often, not because it’s a part of the scheme like you have claimed before.

    Rivers is good at stepping up in the pocket and making plays even with pressure around him.

    But when he doesn’t have the time he needs? When he can’t trust his blocking? It’s very bad because he isn’t good at extending plays when the blocking breaks down.

    This is why I suggested possibly putting in Taylor if the OL doesn’t improve, because Taylor does have the ability to extend plays when the blocking breaks down.

    IM being dead serious when I say that if you cannot grasp this simple logic, then you’re hopeless.

    There is no double standard or “flip flop” this is how football works.

    Also, I mentioned how the OL was without all but one starter, which is a fact. You mention how they had three because one is playing out of position and the other didn’t even last the opening drive?

    What happened the week before when both the starting tackles did play? It was like night and day.

    Rivers still hasn’t played well for at least half the games, our receivers haven’t either.

    But the main issue is the OL Followed by rivers regression and the RZ offense.

    You wouldn’t know this because you obviously don’t watch and just formulate your opinions based on stat sheets alone.

    If rivers gets decent time then we should be fine, if not? I think they probably should give Taylor a chance.

    That’s my opinion that I have had since the broncos loss, I have not “flipped” you just lack the football knowledge to understand.
    With all of the negative reasons, aka EXCUSES you just stated regarding your offense and the amount of time it takes to make or break a play, you should be grateful that the Sparklers are not 0-10, right? Meaning the four wins were astonishingly stupendous to say the least!

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  • baphamet
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    Originally posted by arapaho View Post
    Lol you Brag about rivers being the best under pressure, then you whine about the online allowing pressure hurting rivers game

    Which is it, it can’t be both

    I didn’t say crap about okung playing the whole game Sonny

    I said he played, as did freeny , as did scho

    Three starters when you claimed you played the game with one starter ...only

    You ain’t wrecked anybody or thing except your self respect with your whiny excuses and flip flops
    This is sad man, I’m really starting to question if you even watch football.

    Let me attempt to explain something very basic and simple to you.

    Pressure can happen 3 seconds after the snap when the play is allowed to develop and the receivers can complete their routes.

    Pressure can also happen 1.5-2 seconds after the ball is snapped where a QB has no chance to make the completion if he’s a pocket passer like rivers And the play isn’t allowed to develop.

    This is the exact reason why he checks down so often, not because it’s a part of the scheme like you have claimed before.

    Rivers is good at stepping up in the pocket and making plays even with pressure around him.

    But when he doesn’t have the time he needs? When he can’t trust his blocking? It’s very bad because he isn’t good at extending plays when the blocking breaks down.

    This is why I suggested possibly putting in Taylor if the OL doesn’t improve, because Taylor does have the ability to extend plays when the blocking breaks down.

    IM being dead serious when I say that if you cannot grasp this simple logic, then you’re hopeless.

    There is no double standard or “flip flop” this is how football works.

    Also, I mentioned how the OL was without all but one starter, which is a fact. You mention how they had three because one is playing out of position and the other didn’t even last the opening drive?

    What happened the week before when both the starting tackles did play? It was like night and day.

    Rivers still hasn’t played well for at least half the games, our receivers haven’t either.

    But the main issue is the OL Followed by rivers regression and the RZ offense.

    You wouldn’t know this because you obviously don’t watch and just formulate your opinions based on stat sheets alone.

    If rivers gets decent time then we should be fine, if not? I think they probably should give Taylor a chance.

    That’s my opinion that I have had since the broncos loss, I have not “flipped” you just lack the football knowledge to understand.

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  • arapaho
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    Originally posted by baphamet View Post
    so you didn't say rivers choked Thursday? i said it might be time for rivers to hang em up, i did not say he was the only reason why we lost. in fact, i would argue that rivers had the game won the drive before the defense gave up that final TD. but behind a line that has only 1 starter who cannot protect rivers? yes i do think he may be done.

    what's the point in arguing with you though? you clearly didn't watch the game as you believe okung played the whole game when in fact he went out the very first drive.

    you also keep mention how i said rivers was one of the best against pressures couple years ago like i was wrong, care to address the post where i made you look like a silly ass fool?? you ignored it because you know you got straight wrecked


    https://forums.denverbroncos.com/sho...40#post5851240

    Lol you Brag about rivers being the best under pressure, then you whine about the online allowing pressure hurting rivers game

    Which is it, it can’t be both

    I didn’t say crap about okung playing the whole game Sonny

    I said he played, as did freeny , as did scho

    Three starters when you claimed you played the game with one starter ...only

    You ain’t wrecked anybody or thing except your self respect with your whiny excuses and flip flops

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  • baphamet
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    Originally posted by arapaho View Post
    Lmao you still trying to make crap up to fit your whine

    I didn’t blame rivers for the loss to the raiders

    YOU DID !! and implied he was “Done “

    I only commented on the progression of your whiny excuses

    It started with your injuries, you then cried about all the back ups playing, then progressed to the scheme, then the oline then The OC then Rivers

    I could care less why the bolts lose

    And I stated that without rivers since 2013 under telesco the bolts would more then likely be a perennial 4-5 win team on a different thread concerning elway as the GM

    Two different topics
    so you didn't say rivers choked Thursday? i said it might be time for rivers to hang em up, i did not say he was the only reason why we lost. in fact, i would argue that rivers had the game won the drive before the defense gave up that final TD. but behind a line that has only 1 starter who cannot protect rivers? yes i do think he may be done.

    what's the point in arguing with you though? you clearly didn't watch the game as you believe okung played the whole game when in fact he went out the very first drive.

    you also keep mention how i said rivers was one of the best against pressures couple years ago like i was wrong, care to address the post where i made you look like a silly ass fool?? you ignored it because you know you got straight wrecked


    https://forums.denverbroncos.com/sho...40#post5851240

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  • arapaho
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    Originally posted by baphamet View Post
    no, you claimed the chargers wouldn't have any wins without rivers then proceeded to blame the loss on rivers, which is it??

    i haven't once blamed any one thing but ive been critical of rivers most the season and you have replied to those posts, which means you're making crap up.

    the OL is the main issue, because rivers cannot be successful without it at this stage of his career and when they have played well he's played well, it's just common sense.

    that's the argument i have been making since the broncos loss.

    I also said the OC is a problem but not the only issue, more than once. again, you replied to these posts so i know you read it, therefor you are not being truthful.

    just because you're incapable of individual thought and feel the need to blame one thing on losing because you're clueless, doesn't mean i do. the offense as a whole has not been good enough and the most consistently bad thing has been RZ offense. which could be blamed on rivers, play calling, OL getting pushed around, and gordon coming out of the gate looking like trash.

    all those things have contributed to losing, even the defense against the raiders could have shut them down and the game would have been over but they didn't. so no, ive never blamed just one thing on the chargers struggling.

    but why do you get to run your mouth right now with your team still sitting in the basement considering our struggles? that's what i wanna know.
    Lmao you still trying to make crap up to fit your whine

    I didn’t blame rivers for the loss to the raiders

    YOU DID !! and implied he was “Done “

    I only commented on the progression of your whiny excuses

    It started with your injuries, you then cried about all the back ups playing, then progressed to the scheme, then the oline then The OC then Rivers

    I could care less why the bolts lose

    And I stated that without rivers since 2013 under telesco the bolts would more then likely be a perennial 4-5 win team on a different thread concerning elway as the GM

    Two different topics

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  • baphamet
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    Originally posted by atwaterandstir View Post
    Charger fans might start to show up when Cam gives them some hope next year.
    by the way. more chargers fans will indeed show up next season because they will be in their new stadium and the tickets wont be the most expensive in the NFL anymore. when the chargers played the rams at the coliseum, it was easily 40% chargers fans and there were a lot of them, again.....because tickets were not hundreds of dollars each.
    Last edited by baphamet; 11-10-2019, 09:03 AM.

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  • baphamet
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    Originally posted by atwaterandstir View Post
    Of course we could use him, I would love to sign him TBH.

    Cam Newton could make the Chargers actual contenders as well, but we know that Derwin James return will spark just enough for the Chargers to win a few more and then re-sign Rivers for 3 years lol.

    cam newton is inconsistent and injury prone, not sure why you think he could do that for the chargers. this is likely rivers' last season, been saying that for a while now.

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  • atwaterandstir
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    Originally posted by baphamet View Post
    excuse me? are you saying your team couldn't use him? or do you honestly believe you have a QB on your roaster better than tyrod taylor, our back up?

    elway could bring in any crap QB and you guys would have all the false hope in the world only to have reality smack you in the face yet again. it's absolutely hilarious that you broncos fans are here talking smack while your team still sits in the basement, your team is going to finish the year in the basement as well and likely stay there a while. but yes, do keep running your mouth if it helps you feel better about it.
    Of course we could use him, I would love to sign him TBH.

    Cam Newton could make the Chargers actual contenders as well, but we know that Derwin James return will spark just enough for the Chargers to win a few more and then re-sign Rivers for 3 years lol.

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  • baphamet
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    Originally posted by atwaterandstir View Post
    Charger fans might start to show up when Cam gives them some hope next year.
    excuse me? are you saying your team couldn't use him? or do you honestly believe you have a QB on your roaster better than tyrod taylor, our back up?

    elway could bring in any crap QB and you guys would have all the false hope in the world only to have reality smack you in the face yet again. it's absolutely hilarious that you broncos fans are here talking smack while your team still sits in the basement, your team is going to finish the year in the basement as well and likely stay there a while. but yes, do keep running your mouth if it helps you feel better about it.

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  • baphamet
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    Originally posted by arapaho View Post
    Again drama much.... you blamed the loss to the raiders
    On rivers

    I only commented that this season first you blamed injuries, then online, then offense scheme, then the oc and now rivers

    Keep track of your whiny excuses
    no, you claimed the chargers wouldn't have any wins without rivers then proceeded to blame the loss on rivers, which is it??

    i haven't once blamed any one thing but ive been critical of rivers most the season and you have replied to those posts, which means you're making crap up.

    the OL is the main issue, because rivers cannot be successful without it at this stage of his career and when they have played well he's played well, it's just common sense.

    that's the argument i have been making since the broncos loss.

    I also said the OC is a problem but not the only issue, more than once. again, you replied to these posts so i know you read it, therefor you are not being truthful.

    just because you're incapable of individual thought and feel the need to blame one thing on losing because you're clueless, doesn't mean i do. the offense as a whole has not been good enough and the most consistently bad thing has been RZ offense. which could be blamed on rivers, play calling, OL getting pushed around, and gordon coming out of the gate looking like trash.

    all those things have contributed to losing, even the defense against the raiders could have shut them down and the game would have been over but they didn't. so no, ive never blamed just one thing on the chargers struggling.

    but why do you get to run your mouth right now with your team still sitting in the basement considering our struggles? that's what i wanna know.
    Last edited by baphamet; 11-10-2019, 09:02 AM.

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  • atwaterandstir
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    Charger fans might start to show up when Cam gives them some hope next year.

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  • arapaho
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    Originally posted by baphamet View Post
    You just blamed the loss on rivers in another thread, which is it? Again Taylor is a better QB than all those trash QB’s in Denver you have defended over the years.

    You don’t know QB’s, never have and never will, just like your GM
    Again drama much.... you blamed the loss to the raiders
    On rivers

    I only commented that this season first you blamed injuries, then online, then offense scheme, then the oc and now rivers

    Keep track of your whiny excuses

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  • baphamet
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    Originally posted by arapaho View Post
    no I didn't you drama queen...

    you made the excuse for missing okung and james ...I simply told you were missing our RT and RCB too and you don't see us crying

    you could bench rivers today and not win another game all year...theres a reason taylor is a career backup
    You just blamed the loss on rivers in another thread, which is it? Again Taylor is a better QB than all those trash QB’s in Denver you have defended over the years.

    You don’t know QB’s, never have and never will, just like your GM

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  • arapaho
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    Originally posted by baphamet View Post
    Puuuhlease, you made an excuse simply for not having your starting RT. The chargers were without both tackles again and it showed.

    Like I said before, rivers sucks behind that line when they can’t protect him.

    The funny thing is the chargers could bench rivers today and their hack up is better than Anything the broncos have had since manning retired
    no I didn't you drama queen...

    you made the excuse for missing okung and james ...I simply told you were missing our RT and RCB too and you don't see us crying

    you could bench rivers today and not win another game all year...theres a reason taylor is a career backup

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