Chiefs reach Extension with Mahomes for 10 years

[EddieMac]

At least it wasn’t another Brady thread

[Rastic]

Somehow this became a Von Miller thread?

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[Kyousukeneko]

He was also 7th in qb pressure

[Stackhouser]

Um, Von Miller didn't play in the 2013 AFCCG....way to know your own team.

He's not "Von Miller" anymore, buddy, as I showed above with stats....:thumb:

If you truly believe this, then you truly do not know anything about football. There are so many contributing factors to last seasons play, (which I guess you only apply stat lines into a players skill set)........ You apparently didn't watch much if this is your true assessment.....

[ThreeGees]

The same list that has Mahomes as the 3rd best QB in the league? Sure...

In 2019, Von Miller:

Combined tackles - ranked 220th

Sacks - ranked 32nd

Forced Fumbles - 0

Fumble Recoveries - 0

Stats are not the only measure. It's his presence on the field that also matters.

[Spice 1]

He's not a complete LBer anymore, at least from what I saw last year. He was what, 230th in combined tackles? Maybe he'll have a bounce back season.

He was in a new system, man. Don't get caught up in the stats.

[TommyBrady12]

I think you quoted the wrong person. Why would you say Von Miller isn't a top 10 LB, when you're talking about off the ball linebackers? What the hell is that even supposed to mean? If you don't consider him a linebacker in the first place, why are you ranking him as a linebacker?

"Oh, Keenan Allen isn't a top 15 receiver"
"Well, according to NFL players, he is..."
"Well, ya know, I was talking about predominantly outside receivers"
"Ok.... Yeah, he's probably not in the top 100 then, is he?"

He's not a complete LBer anymore, at least from what I saw last year. He was what, 230th in combined tackles? Maybe he'll have a bounce back season.

[TommyBrady12]

OMG! Do you even think before you speak???

Did the Broncos and VON MILLER not go through the pansies twice in 2015! Once In The regular earning home field advantage and then again beating their asses in the AFC championship game!

Sometimes when I think you’re finally getting your head above water, you say something so stupid and send yourself Catapulting back down to rock bottom.

So you admit that Miller didn't "beat up" Brady twice to GET to the Super Bowl?

[Sam_Z]

Um, Von Miller didn't play in the 2013 AFCCG....way to know your own team.

He's not "Von Miller" anymore, buddy, as I showed above with stats....:thumb:

OMG! Do you even think before you speak???

Did the Broncos and VON MILLER not go through the pansies twice in 2015! Once In The regular earning home field advantage and then again beating their asses in the AFC championship game!

Sometimes when I think you’re finally getting your head above water, you say something so stupid and send yourself Catapulting back down to rock bottom.

[Spice 1]

My original argument.



I never said he wasn't a top 10 edge rusher. You changed the goal posts to say edge rusher.

So you're admitting one of two things. The first, is that you didn't actually read the two articles you posted. The second, is that you do in fact have a significant deficiency in reading comprehension, as I've previously speculated on numerous occasions. It should be a logical presumption that anyone with adequate reading skills, who claims Von Miller is not a top ten linebacker, would not use articles that don't even rank him as a linebacker to support their claims. Unless, of course, they didn't actually read the articles in their entirety.

[TommyBrady12]

Nothing to write home about. His numbers can be averaged per the 9 games as follows:

3.6 total tackles, 1.2 TFL, .83 sacks, 2.1 QB hits, .111 INT, .22 FF

On a per game average, nothing impressive. Really, the only stat that pops out at me are the total number of tackles and if a LB is doing a lot of tackling it means the defensive front isn't doing its job. He had maybe a handful of games where he was really good against NE but that's about it. He isn't even a top 10 LB anymore.

My original argument.

According to the writers ranking players for Athlon Sports and CBS, there is. Which intrigues me as to why you would provide those examples in the effort to support your argument that Miller is not a top ten LINEBACKER. More intriguing still, is the fact that you accuse me of changing the goal posts, when it was you who introduced the Edge Rusher distinction to the argument. This is before considering whether or not the contrasting opinions of a couple sports writers hold significant weight against those of actual NFL Players.

I never said he wasn't a top 10 edge rusher. You changed the goal posts to say edge rusher.

[TommyBrady12]

I’m going to take a page from your book and say that 3rd party entities do not matter with their ranking systems.

Von Miller is one of few defenders to win super bowl MVP, and the only defender to win the award In the modern era where offense is so heavily favored by the league, not to mention a somewhat corrupt league that featured Tommy Cheetah whom Miller beat up twice to get there!

Try again or dip out, Buddy Lembeck!

Um, Von Miller didn't play in the 2013 AFCCG....way to know your own team.

He's not "Von Miller" anymore, buddy, as I showed above with stats....:thumb:

[Sam_Z]

He's a good LB, but some would question whether he's top 10.

https://athlonsports.com/nfl/nfl-linebacker-rankings

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/r...ge-third-year/

I’m going to take a page from your book and say that 3rd party entities do not matter with their ranking systems.

Von Miller is one of few defenders to win super bowl MVP, and the only defender to win the award In the modern era where offense is so heavily favored by the league, not to mention a somewhat corrupt league that featured Tommy Cheetah whom Miller beat up twice to get there!

Try again or dip out, Buddy Lembeck!

[Spice 1]

Now you are changing the goal posts. There's a difference between linebacker and edge rusher.

According to the writers ranking players for Athlon Sports and CBS, there is. Which intrigues me as to why you would provide those examples in the effort to support your argument that Miller is not a top ten LINEBACKER. More intriguing still, is the fact that you accuse me of changing the goal posts, when it was you who introduced the Edge Rusher distinction to the argument. This is before considering whether or not the contrasting opinions of a couple sports writers hold significant weight against those of actual NFL Players.

[TommyBrady12]

lol. You want me to put handlebars on that L, so you can hold it better?

We're on to Patrick Mahomes

Now you are changing the goal posts. There's a difference between linebacker and edge rusher.