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  • 58Miller
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    Those are my fair observations going into the season. Chargers have the slight edge despite the Broncos offensive additions, and the Broncos have the edge on defense despite the Chargers additions.
    Should come down to how good the broncos new coaching staff can do!

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  • 58Miller
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    Broncos vs Chargers Roster breakdowns:
    Defense: Denver

    Secondary: Even
    Broncos have the best Free Safety, the Chargers have the best Strong Safety. The Chargers have the best overall corner in Jackson but Denver has the better starting duo in Darby & Surtain. Denver moved on from Chargers new slot corner Bryce Callahan for a more durable and more physical player in Kawaun Williams. Denver's secondary has proven had good they Chargers have the potential to be better. I will call it even going into 2022.

    Linebackers: Broncos
    Alex Singelton and Josey Jewell are better than Murray and Tranquill. I would argue broncos back ups Griffith and Browning are also better. And. This area of the chargers defense is where the Broncos will expose them in the run game and tight end and running back mismatches.

    Edge: Chargers
    Mack and Bosa are not only better, but arguably the best pair in the league. The Brincos have improved as much as the Chargers in this area. They had a 7th rd pick Cooper and UDFA Reed starting at times last season. Getting a healthy Bradley Chubb back and the additions of Gregory and rooie Nick Bonito the broncos are much better than last season.

    Defensive Line: Broncos
    I had to laugh when I heard how great Sebastian Joseph-Day and Austin Johnson are vs the run. DJ Jones was a better addition than both of them and he went to the Broncos. The Broncos already have Mike Purcell and Deshawn Williams all proven run stoppers. As far as getting after the QB from inside Dremont Jones has proven to be a better player than Jerry Tillery. The Broncos and Chargers have both added depth but DJ & Dremont Jones give the Broncos the clear win in this area.

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  • 58Miller
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    Broncos vs Chargers Roster breakdowns:
    Offense: Chargers
    Quarterback: Even
    This was could be argued either way. Wilson has been to the postseason 8 out of 10 seasons and Herbert is 0 for 2. Herbert has put up great stats his first two seasons but until he gets to the postseason and does something its a wash. Wilson also needs to prove he can win in Denver.

    Runningbacks: Denver
    While Ekeler is the better receiver the Broncos have two backs that are better running the football, and that depth gives the Broncos an edge in my opinion.

    Receivers: Chargers
    Allen and Mike Williams like Russell Wilson have proven on the field they are the better of these two groups. Denver has more depth and potential talent but until they prove it on the field it the Chargers.

    Tight End: Even
    The Chargers brought in a journeyman tight end in Everett, Broncos have Albert O. Everett has started but Albert O has a much higher ceiling. I dont think either group is better at this time.

    Tackles: Denver
    Rashawn Slater is the best of the group but Denver then has the next best 3. Bolles is not as good as Slater but he has been a pro bowler. Billy Turner started for the Packers at both tackle spots and Tom Compton was the 49ers starting right tackle on a playoff run that went to the NFC conference championship. He is the best run blocking tackle for both teams. Storm Norton is the weak link in the Chargers line.

    Guards: Even
    Matt Feiler had a good year and I would rank him highest from performance and experience but Denver is very deep at this position. Glasgow, Risner, Meinerz, & Muti are all servicable starting guards in the NFl. Tom Compton if he loses out to Turner at Right Tackle will be in the mix as well. The Chargers in the draft did add two promising young rookie guards in Zion Johnson and Sawlyer from Georgia. Like the Broncos receivers you cant overrate guys on potential. So I will put this group as even.

    Center: Chargers
    This one is easy. Corey Linsley is arguably the best center in the NFL period. Cushenberry is arguably the worst. Case closed

    Last edited by 58Miller; 05-20-2022, 03:50 PM.

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  • baphamet
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    The chargers added even more depth to their DL today. just a complete revamp of their defense. It's almost as if Staley didn't have the pieces to run his defense in year one.

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  • baphamet
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    Originally posted by 58Miller View Post
    The Denver Broncos Roster brought back most the starters from the league's 3rd ranked scoring defense with additions of Edge Randy Gregory, Dlineman DJ Jones, LB Alex Singelton, and slot corner Kawaun Williams.
    Denver also gets back healthy ILB Josey Jewell, and Bradley Chubb who both missed most of the 2021 Season.
    First time DC Evero has a lot to prove, he will have a top 5 roster and the 36 years exp. of assistant Dom Capers.

    Denver on Offense has brought in Russell Wilson and Coaches from the the leagues 10th raked offense in scoring and Yards ( and their Right Tackle).

    The Broncos will change their offensive scheme and have upgraded on the oline, tight end, and QB

    The return of KJ Hamler gives Denver a receiver to take the top off the defense and with Wilsons ability to throw the deep ball makes this offense on paper a scary group.


    The Broncos biggest question is how good is their coaching staff and will they be able to get the everyone on the same page.

    The way I view the AFC West is 4 very talented rosters!!!!! The Broncos, Raiders, and Chargers all have made moves to level them up with KC. The Raiders and Broncos have the rosters to contend, but will their coaching staffs get the most out of them is the question!

    The Chargers have a great roster, will their coach hold them back again is the question!!!!

    The Chiefs have no coaching issues, they need to develop the young players they brough in and if they are successful they will stay on top another year.

    the bronco's OL isn't great. the broncos barely addressed their OL, it wasn't enough to vastly improve on a very mediocre (but not bad) OL. nobody questions the chargers coach holding them back except you.

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  • baphamet
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    Originally posted by dizzolve View Post

    except just can't win?
    are you talking about the broncos?

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  • baphamet
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    Originally posted by atwaterandstir View Post

    One thing I will say, is the Chargers should have addressed the RB position with a power runner. For as talented as Eckler is, he has never been the one to turn to, for churning out tough yards.....in fact it was Herbert tasked with that more often. I don't think the new RB offers anything more.
    Overall it was a good draft for the Chargers, I just think they targeted the wrong RB.

    There is going to be an upset fan base when their team doesn't make the playoffs. I expect 2 out of the AFCW. The back end of our schedule is going to determine our fate and the fate of those in our division. Should be an interesting year
    why don't you think the new RB adds anything more? it's not going to take a lot to improve upon what they had before. spiller is slow for a RB but he possesses good pass blocking skills as well as a proven weapon in the passing game in college. not to mention he played in the SEC against good competition behind a not-so-good OL.

    he "should" be able to come in and spell AE on third down, something our other backs-ups just couldn't do.

    I'm not sold on him yet but he's gotta be better than kelly who was another 4th round RB that just isn't cutting it.

    the chargers do have a brutal schedule in the second half of the season. they are going to have to come out of the gate swinging if they want a chance to make the playoffs.
    they have the team to do it IMO.
    Last edited by baphamet; 05-18-2022, 02:06 PM.

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  • baphamet
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    Originally posted by 58Miller View Post
    If questioning a coach who made their defense worse and was outcoached by an interim coach in a win and your in game is crazy then I am guilty!!!!
    no, you said he was a bad coach, you didn't just question him.

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  • atwaterandstir
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    Originally posted by baphamet View Post

    the chargers already had their QB though lol

    they had really bad ST's and defense. offensively they are good to go, especially if their new RB does alright. like I said before, now Staley has the pieces to run his defense the way he wants. If this defense isn't at minimum top 10 in the league this season, it will be a failure.

    I do see the optimism with the broncos, they will likely be a well-rounded team. but there is a lot of change in Denver this off-season. a new QB, new HC and new play-callers on both sides of the ball. to expect the Broncos to add RW and the rest of the team to not miss a beat is a little naive.

    I'm guessing there could be growing pains early but we will see. I just personally think the chargers have the best roster right now in the division overall. it's close and arguable though like I said before.
    One thing I will say, is the Chargers should have addressed the RB position with a power runner. For as talented as Eckler is, he has never been the one to turn to, for churning out tough yards.....in fact it was Herbert tasked with that more often. I don't think the new RB offers anything more.
    Overall it was a good draft for the Chargers, I just think they targeted the wrong RB.

    There is going to be an upset fan base when their team doesn't make the playoffs. I expect 2 out of the AFCW. The back end of our schedule is going to determine our fate and the fate of those in our division. Should be an interesting year
    Last edited by atwaterandstir; 05-18-2022, 09:08 AM.

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  • dizzolve
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    Originally posted by baphamet View Post
    not as good as the chargers though!

    IMO the chargers have the best roster in the division and arguably in the NFL......yes I said it. there is no unit on this team that isn't strong. maybe running back could be argued isn't deep but they did just draft a kid that could be decent. the chargers are also deeper now at multiple positions than they were before.

    this is the best offseason in chargers history, they really are all in on winning a SB

    this is not me saying they will for sure win the division, chargers always seem to charger after all! but talent-wise, no team in the division stacks up. (although it is still close)

    let us see how the "herbert cant get to the playoffs after only his second season" narrative holds up this time when he actually has help in the other two phases of the game with a much-improved roster across the board.

    AFC west fans right now looking at the chargers......

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    except just can't win?

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  • 58Miller
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    The Denver Broncos Roster brought back most the starters from the league's 3rd ranked scoring defense with additions of Edge Randy Gregory, Dlineman DJ Jones, LB Alex Singelton, and slot corner Kawaun Williams.
    Denver also gets back healthy ILB Josey Jewell, and Bradley Chubb who both missed most of the 2021 Season.
    First time DC Evero has a lot to prove, he will have a top 5 roster and the 36 years exp. of assistant Dom Capers.

    Denver on Offense has brought in Russell Wilson and Coaches from the the leagues 10th raked offense in scoring and Yards ( and their Right Tackle).

    The Broncos will change their offensive scheme and have upgraded on the oline, tight end, and QB

    The return of KJ Hamler gives Denver a receiver to take the top off the defense and with Wilsons ability to throw the deep ball makes this offense on paper a scary group.


    The Broncos biggest question is how good is their coaching staff and will they be able to get the everyone on the same page.

    The way I view the AFC West is 4 very talented rosters!!!!! The Broncos, Raiders, and Chargers all have made moves to level them up with KC. The Raiders and Broncos have the rosters to contend, but will their coaching staffs get the most out of them is the question!

    The Chargers have a great roster, will their coach hold them back again is the question!!!!

    The Chiefs have no coaching issues, they need to develop the young players they brough in and if they are successful they will stay on top another year.


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  • 58Miller
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    Originally posted by baphamet View Post

    I'm not even talking smack though really lol

    58miller is, talking crazy as hell.
    If questioning a coach who made their defense worse and was outcoached by an interim coach in a win and your in game is crazy then I am guilty!!!!

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  • 58Miller
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    Originally posted by baphamet View Post

    not smart enough to see the point I made? doesn't surprise me
    You always say Denver wont win!!!! You said we wouldn't win a SB with Peyton either. So pat yourself on the back for being right, and remember YOUR TEAM was 5-7 vs Denver after Manning left!!!!


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  • 58Miller
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    Originally posted by baphamet View Post

    just keep running your mouth until september bro. . this is the last post I'm going to make about it, you will see this fall.
    Is that when Staley will fix your defense? Because so far under him your defense is trash!!!!

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  • baphamet
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    Originally posted by 58Miller View Post
    Baphs save your excuses!!! When Staley doesnt blow it and actually makes the playoffs pat yourself on the back, until then he is the reason yall missed the playoffs and your defense was worse under him and he is supposed to be a defensive coach.


    just keep running your mouth until september bro. . this is the last post I'm going to make about it, you will see this fall.

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